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RE: HSIG - Another Cartoon That Speaks For Itself
11/24/2009 9:50:20 AM
Hello Friends,

Here's another self explanatory cartoon. Obowma is sure making a name for himself. Isn't he?

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
11/24/2009 11:16:42 AM
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The more you appease evil, the uglier it gets .....Pamela Geller

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Hi Helen,

Pamela's sure got that right. And B Hussein Obowma is the great appeaser of all time and unfortunately we'll learn that not only will evil get uglier but he himself and his agenda's are inherently evil.

Shalom,

Peter

Hello Peter

I don't usually disagree with you but this time I disagree, well, sort of .....

I don't know Obowma's heart but everything he is doing makes it looks like he IS the evil, not the appeaser, that he is Muslim. Islam is the evil. Muslim leaders love to see us grovel. They love to see us show our fear.

Showing our fear is the worse thing we can do because then they know they've got us. As they say, it is only a matter of time. People, DO NOT BE AFRAID! At least, do not show your fear! Do not bow down to their demands. Let's stand up to them and not appease them. If they don't like our laws, let them go to where there is Sharia laws but we should not be changing our laws or culture for them or anyone. If we went to live in their country, would they accommodate us. No way! We would get the sword above the neck from one side of the neck to the other.

What would happen to us if the Muslims did take over? Would our fear, our appeasements save us from the sword. NO, it would not! What would happen to us if the Muslims tried to take over and we were NOT afraid to speak out and to stand up to them with our arms and military? If we lost, we would get the sword but wouldn't we get it anyway? So if we are going to go down, let's go down bravely! But we don't have to go down if we don't let the politicians give everything away. We can do this! We can win! What would happen if we won and subdued the Muslims? We would be glad we took a stand! We would not get the sword. Anything else we might do is unthinkable! Appeasement will not work!

One of the reasons a wife-beater gets away with beating his wife for as long as he does is because as long as she is afraid, he knows he's got her where he wants her. When she stands up to the coward, he backs down. History has shown us that Muslims are no different. We must stand up to them. We must stop them from coming into our respective countries and working our laws and freedoms against us for their ends. They are already bragging how they expect to take over the US from within the country and within the government without a fight. They will make one little demand after another until they've got it all. They say it right to our face, as it were, and we just stand there and smile sweetly. How sickening!

Let me tell you a story. It may not seem relevant but please bear with me. There was a rather petite woman who was married to a big burly Irishman. On paydays, he would go to the bar and come home drunk. It was at those times that he would beat his wife. He never did it when he was sober. One day she decided she'd had enough. So she had a neighbor keep the kids overnight. When her husband came home, he laid another beating on her. She waited until he passed out on the bed. She, then, tied his hands and feet to the bed. Then she began to whip him with a willow switch she had gotten just for this job. She made him promise that if he was drinking, he was never to come home while he was drunk. Whap! Whap! "Do you promise?" Whap! Well, the man stopped drinking entirely, even on paydays he came home sober. And not only that, he began bragging about what a spunky wife he had.

My grampa beat my gramma continually but one day Dad who had become a strapping young man told grampa in no uncertain terms that if he beat gramma again, he was going to beat the c...p out of his dad. His dad (grampa) never touched gramma again.

The point is appeasement doesn't work with these type of people and it doesn't work with Muslims. It does not matter what we do to try to appease them, when they think the time is right, out will come the sword and it will 'smite' us 'above our necks' from one side of the head to the other. And they won't care if the sword is dull and rusty. The guillotine would be a blessing compared to what they have in store for us. The Quran says, "....I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks..."Surah 8:12. Satan is a diligent teacher, is he not?

(These people are demon possessed. The Bible tells us that the demons have to flee when the name of Jesus is spoken. Remember that.)

It is the other politicians and the media who are doing the appeasing of evil. They know not what they are doing. Do they really think that the Muslims will stop doing what the Quran commands in exchange for a few caresses from us? They are already acting as though we owe it to them to change our laws and everything for them but it won't appease them in the long run because the goal is to have the whole world be under Islam or be dead.

Did you think you would see the day when your children would not be able to pray in school or to take a Bible to school to read during lunch breaks and recesses. They aren't even allowed to wear a T-shirt to school if it says, "Jesus loves you." But they are now, as we speak, setting aside rooms in some schools for Muslim children to pray. What an outrage! Our own children cannot pray but their children can? And that's just the beginning! Muslims are demanding places to pray in the workplace and time off to do it.

The politicians and the people in the media need to know giving the Muslim these things will not make one iota of difference when it is time to begin using the sword. This is the legacy they (the media, et al) are leaving for their own children because they are too afraid to take a stand. They, too, are nothing but a bunch of cowards.

The liberals, the media and others want to settle everything with "talks" and treaties and agreements, etc. How can you accomplish anything with someone who sitting there lying about everything and who does not consider that an agreement needs to be kept if it was made with an "infidel"?

Politicians need to listen to what is coming out of the Muslims' own mouth. If need be, we must educate them by sending links to videos etc. One thing you have to give the Muslims is that they are not hiding their evil intentions. Their intentions are plastered all over the internet. We cannot say we had no way of knowing.

Palestinians who now are no longer Muslims, such as Walid Shoebat and others, say that Bush did the right thing by jumping on the terrorists immediately. This is why the Muslims hated Bush but love Obama. Why the people of the US would vote for someone that the terrorists wanted in the US gov't is beyond me.

Does anyone want to hear what the Muslims are saying and doing? Then go to: www.tangle.com and type the word "Muslim" in the Search box (without the quotes). Go to: www.memri.com (or it is .org?). Go to YouTube. Look up what it says in the Quran by Searching the web for Quran or Koran. You will find things that are unbelievable coming from the Muslims' own lips and their so-called "holy" books. We don't even have to make up stories about them. They do all the talking themselves. Their own words tell us the evil intents of their heart. They do it because they want us to be afraid because fear makes us powerless. Let's stop being afraid! Let's say, "It's enough!" Let's take a stand. Maybe all those other wars in Korea and Vietnam were stupid but maybe this one against Islam is not.

Here's an example of what you will find when you research 'Muslim' and be prepared to be disgusted:

Sharia (Islamic) Law: Cruel and Usual Punishment - Nonie Darwish (1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LwPJ2ucKk&feature=related

Sharia (Islamic) Law: Cruel and Usual Punishment - Nonie Darwish (2 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbhiWynpwIU&feature=related

As one minister says after giving bad news, have a nice afternoon. :))

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
11/24/2009 1:48:14 PM

So well said I am just going to repeat it!

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The more you appease evil, the uglier it gets .....Pamela Geller

Helen



Hi Helen,

Pamela's sure got that right. And B Hussein Obowma is the great appeaser of all time and unfortunately we'll learn that not only will evil get uglier but he himself and his agenda's are inherently evil.

Shalom,

Peter

Hello Peter

I don't usually disagree with you but this time I disagree, well, sort of .....

I don't know Obowma's heart but everything he is doing makes it looks like he IS the evil, not the appeaser, that he is Muslim. Islam is the evil. Muslim leaders love to see us grovel. They love to see us show our fear.

Showing our fear is the worse thing we can do because then they know they've got us. As they say, it is only a matter of time. People, DO NOT BE AFRAID! At least, do not show your fear! Do not bow down to their demands. Let's stand up to them and not appease them. If they don't like our laws, let them go to where there is Sharia laws but we should not be changing our laws or culture for them or anyone. If we went to live in their country, would they accommodate us. No way! We would get the sword above the neck from one side of the neck to the other.

What would happen to us if the Muslims did take over? Would our fear, our appeasements save us from the sword. NO, it would not! What would happen to us if the Muslims tried to take over and we were NOT afraid to speak out and to stand up to them with our arms and military? If we lost, we would get the sword but wouldn't we get it anyway? So if we are going to go down, let's go down bravely! But we don't have to go down if we don't let the politicians give everything away. We can do this! We can win! What would happen if we won and subdued the Muslims? We would be glad we took a stand! We would not get the sword. Anything else we might do is unthinkable! Appeasement will not work!

One of the reasons a wife-beater gets away with beating his wife for as long as he does is because as long as she is afraid, he knows he's got her where he wants her. When she stands up to the coward, he backs down. History has shown us that Muslims are no different. We must stand up to them. We must stop them from coming into our respective countries and working our laws and freedoms against us for their ends. They are already bragging how they expect to take over the US from within the country and within the government without a fight. They will make one little demand after another until they've got it all. They say it right to our face, as it were, and we just stand there and smile sweetly. How sickening!

Let me tell you a story. It may not seem relevant but please bear with me. There was a rather petite woman who was married to a big burly Irishman. On paydays, he would go to the bar and come home drunk. It was at those times that he would beat his wife. He never did it when he was sober. One day she decided she'd had enough. So she had a neighbor keep the kids overnight. When her husband came home, he laid another beating on her. She waited until he passed out on the bed. She, then, tied his hands and feet to the bed. Then she began to whip him with a willow switch she had gotten just for this job. She made him promise that if he was drinking, he was never to come home while he was drunk. Whap! Whap! "Do you promise?" Whap! Well, the man stopped drinking entirely, even on paydays he came home sober. And not only that, he began bragging about what a spunky wife he had.

My grampa beat my gramma continually but one day Dad who had become a strapping young man told grampa in no uncertain terms that if he beat gramma again, he was going to beat the c...p out of his dad. His dad (grampa) never touched gramma again.

The point is appeasement doesn't work with these type of people and it doesn't work with Muslims. It does not matter what we do to try to appease them, when they think the time is right, out will come the sword and it will 'smite' us 'above our necks' from one side of the head to the other. And they won't care if the sword is dull and rusty. The guillotine would be a blessing compared to what they have in store for us. The Quran says, "....I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks..."Surah 8:12. Satan is a diligent teacher, is he not?

(These people are demon possessed. The Bible tells us that the demons have to flee when the name of Jesus is spoken. Remember that.)

It is the other politicians and the media who are doing the appeasing of evil. They know not what they are doing. Do they really think that the Muslims will stop doing what the Quran commands in exchange for a few caresses from us? They are already acting as though we owe it to them to change our laws and everything for them but it won't appease them in the long run because the goal is to have the whole world be under Islam or be dead.

Did you think you would see the day when your children would not be able to pray in school or to take a Bible to school to read during lunch breaks and recesses. They aren't even allowed to wear a T-shirt to school if it says, "Jesus loves you." But they are now, as we speak, setting aside rooms in some schools for Muslim children to pray. What an outrage! Our own children cannot pray but their children can? And that's just the beginning! Muslims are demanding places to pray in the workplace and time off to do it.

The politicians and the people in the media need to know giving the Muslim these things will not make one iota of difference when it is time to begin using the sword. This is the legacy they (the media, et al) are leaving for their own children because they are too afraid to take a stand. They, too, are nothing but a bunch of cowards.

The liberals, the media and others want to settle everything with "talks" and treaties and agreements, etc. How can you accomplish anything with someone who sitting there lying about everything and who does not consider that an agreement needs to be kept if it was made with an "infidel"?

Politicians need to listen to what is coming out of the Muslims' own mouth. If need be, we must educate them by sending links to videos etc. One thing you have to give the Muslims is that they are not hiding their evil intentions. Their intentions are plastered all over the internet. We cannot say we had no way of knowing.

Palestinians who now are no longer Muslims, such as Walid Shoebat and others, say that Bush did the right thing by jumping on the terrorists immediately. This is why the Muslims hated Bush but love Obama. Why the people of the US would vote for someone that the terrorists wanted in the US gov't is beyond me.

Does anyone want to hear what the Muslims are saying and doing? Then go to: www.tangle.com and type the word "Muslim" in the Search box (without the quotes). Go to: www.memri.com (or it is .org?). Go to YouTube. Look up what it says in the Quran by Searching the web for Quran or Koran. You will find things that are unbelievable coming from the Muslims' own lips and their so-called "holy" books. We don't even have to make up stories about them. They do all the talking themselves. Their own words tell us the evil intents of their heart. They do it because they want us to be afraid because fear makes us powerless. Let's stop being afraid! Let's say, "It's enough!" Let's take a stand. Maybe all those other wars in Korea and Vietnam were stupid but maybe this one against Islam is not.

Here's an example of what you will find when you research 'Muslim' and be prepared to be disgusted:

Sharia (Islamic) Law: Cruel and Usual Punishment - Nonie Darwish (1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8LwPJ2ucKk&feature=related

Sharia (Islamic) Law: Cruel and Usual Punishment - Nonie Darwish (2 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbhiWynpwIU&feature=related

As one minister says after giving bad news, have a nice afternoon. :))

Helen

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
11/25/2009 5:27:47 AM
Hi Helen & Jim,

Jim, I always knew you were loquacious and a man of many words. You outdid yourself this time. :) AND, I agree with every word.

Helen, it appears we are in total agreement so I don't see where we might disagree unless it's in regard to Obowma's "heart". Well as far as I'm concerned it certainly isn't in the right place and ALL his actions prove just that. He and his goon squads surrounding him are doing all in their power to bring about the downfall of the USA and the Western World with it.

Shalom,

Peter
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RE: HSIG - An Article Well Worth Reading By Anne Wortham
11/25/2009 5:29:57 AM
Hello Friends,

After reading the below article by Anne Wortham I believe there's not much to add other then the dire results of B Hussein Obowma's regime. I've written much about that in the past and will continue to write about it in the future. BUT now, I'll let Anne's article speak for itself cos it surely does.

Shalom,

Peter

Anne Wortham is Associate Professor of Sociology at Illinois State University and continuing Visiting Scholar at Stanford University's HooverInstitution.



She is a member of the American Sociological Association and the American Philosophical Association.

Shehas been a John M. Olin Foundation Faculty Fellow, and honored as aDistinguished Alumni of the Year by the Nation al Association for EqualOpportunity in Higher Education.

Infall 1988 she was one of a select group of intellectuals who werefeatured in Bill Moyer's television series, "A World of Ideas." Thetranscript of her conversation with Moyers has been published in hisbook, A World of Ideas.

Dr. Wortham is author of "The Other Side of Racism: A Philosophical Study of Black Race Consciousness" which analyzes how race consciousness is transformed into political strategies and policy issues.

Shehas published numerous articles on the implications of individualrights for civil rights policy, and is currently writing a book ontheories of social and cultural marginality.

Recently, she haspublished articles on the significance of multiculturalism andAfrocentricism in education, the politics of victimization and thesocial and political impact of political correctness. Shortly after aninterview in 2004, she was awarded tenure.


The following article is by Anne Wortham.
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Fellow Americans,


Pleaseknow: I am Black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote forBarack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president.Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a Blackpresident to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is worthliving. I do not require a Black president to love the idealof America .

Icannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is nosmile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears oftriumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, Iwould have to deny all that I know about the requirements of humanflourishing and survival - all that I know about the history of theUnited States of America , all that I know about American racerelations, and all that I know about Barack Obama as a politician. Iwould have to deny the nature of the "change" that Obama asserts hascome to America .

Mostimportantly, I would have to abnegate my certain understanding that youhave chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom that we have been on forover a century. I would have to pretend that individual liberty has novalue for the success of a human life. I would have to evade yourrejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your success andmine depend. I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percentof the 12 million Blacks in this country voted for a man because helooks like them (that Blacks are permitted to play the race card), andthat they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who votedfor him because he doesn't look like them..

Iwould have to wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind ofpeople who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts inhis administration - political intellectuals like my former colleaguesat the Harvard University 's Kennedy School of Government.

Iwould have to believe that "fairness" is equivalent of justice. I wouldhave to believe that a man who asks me to "go forward in a new spiritof service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking in myinterest... I would have to accept the premise of a man that economicprosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly believes thathe can will it into existence by the use of government force. I wouldhave to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the massescan be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators ofwealth.

Finally,Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in GrantPark, Chicago irrationally chanting "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would haveto wipe all memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits,journalists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare thatcapitalism is dead - and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan,objected to their assumption that the particular version of theanti-capitalistic mentality that they want to replace with their ownversion of anti-capitalism is anything remotely equivalent tocapitalism.

Soyou have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected aBlack man to the office of the president of the United States , thewounded giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and JaneFonda is over - and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and GeorgeMcGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedyshave at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like. The self-righteouswelfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfactionfor having elected a Black person.

So,toast yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90sbourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, BlackAmerica. Shout your gleeHarvard,Princeton , Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You haveelected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a Blackman who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to - DoSomething! You now have someone who has picked up the baton of LyndonJohnson's Great Society. But you have also foolishly traded yourfreedom and mine - what little there is left - for the chance to feelgood.

There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness. God Help Us all...


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