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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
11/3/2009 6:58:20 AM
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Hi Peter ..

It is not that the Palestinian propaganda is successful, in my opinion at least. People choose to believe it because they have already made up their minds to be Jew-haters and will not change, in most cases, even if the truth is staring them in the face. So then the Jew has to be blamed no matter what, in their mind, even if it means supporting the terrorists.

I have seen interviews with Palestinians on TV where, more than once, it was so obvious they were lying. The Palestinians are bungling even their own propaganda but people, including those working for MSM and other networks, are refusing to acknowledge the truth. If you think about it, it is difficult to say, "I was wrong about the Israelis and Palestinians." Most of us would not let our pride admit we were wrong about something.

It is not good enough, however, to preach to the choir. Like you said, we need to do what we can to inform others, hopefully enlightening those still sitting on the fence. The haters will not be changed ...unless God performs a miracle in them as He has done many times. We need to inform but we also need to pray for both the Jews and Palestinians as well as those looking on, not forgetting the haters. God loves them all; He can change hearts and minds. Good examples are the X-Muslims, in whom God did miracles, and who now love the Jew. That is so awesome.

Helen



Hi Helen,

You know what the problem is in my opinion? There are many Muslims that are moderate and law abiding citizens. There are many that converted to other religions or simply left Islam. But neither group has come out en masse to speak out against extreme and radical Islam. Those that do are few and far between. The reason is fear! They know that if they do there will be reprisals against them and they will suffer cos of their outspokenness.

The moderates amongst them will "stream" with the vocalists and in essence are giving them support by their silence. Look what happened to that poor girl Rifqa Bari. she converted to Christianity and out of fear of her father and mother ran away and received refuge in a Christian home in Florida. The parents with the support of CAIR (an organization funded and backed by the "brotherhood" and supporters of Hamas and Hezbollah) in the end got the courts to return this poor frightened girl back home. She is in foster care but is not allowed access to the internet and is virtually a prisoner and afraid for her life.

Many came out to support this girl but you didn't see any moderate Muslims supporting her right to convert and live her life according to her beliefs.

I would definitely like to see miracles happen but as you can see the chances for that are quite dim. As far as the Palestinians are concerned rather then show their desire by returning to the peace talks they are coming up with more demands that never existed in the past just to return to the talks. Have you seen any condemning them for their actions??? Not really the first sign was Hillary Clinton's remarks while she was in Israel last week. I'll post about that today or tomorrow.

Shalom,

Peter
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RE: HSIG - Lord Monckton On Glenn Beck
11/3/2009 7:11:10 AM
Hello Friends,

Afew days I posted a video of Lord Monckton warning the US about the Copenhagen agreement. It was a dire warning about an agreement tha twill in effect create a "world government" that will have control overall the countries that sign that agreement.

You haven't seen mention of Lord Monckton or the Copenhagen agreement on the MSM except for Fox News. All the others are simply ignoring this and apparently feel that losing your countries freedom isn't important enough to report on. It's news and not the propaganda they are all spouting on a daily basis. Their main claim to fame recently is trying to bash Beck and Limbaugh and they certainly aren't succeeding with that either.

Below are 5 videos of Lord Monckton being interviewed on the Glenn Beck show. Well worth watching.

Shalom,

Peter











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RE: HSIG - Jeremiah Wright BHO's Mentor Praises Marxism
11/3/2009 12:58:45 PM
Hello Friends,

For those of us that researched B Hussein's background during the campaign the videos below might not come as a big surprise but it might be an eye opener for the sheeples that blindly voted and supported B Hussein an unknown entity that never accomplished anything in his life.

We all know about the relationship of B Hussein and his pastor Jeremiah Wright for well over 20 years. Most of us know about his Socialist and Marxist friends and now it appears that Jeremiah Wright is a Marxist and not only preaches "God **** America" but now as you'll see in the video calls America "the land of greed and the home of slavery".

What always amazes me is when a supposed man of God preaches Marxism he obviously disregards one of the famous tenets of Marxism. "Religion is the opiate of the people". How can a man of God preach both at the same time??? Sorta nixes the religion but with nut cases you can't expect logic and common sense.

Yes friends, Jeremiah Wright was one of B Hussein's mentors for many years and look at how well he learned from Wright and his other Marxist mentors. The downfall of American is well on the way to becoming a fact and his buddies are probably proud of their oh so apt pupil.

Shalom,

Peter



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RE: HSIG - We Noticed President Obama
11/3/2009 1:56:36 PM
Hello Friends,

I received the below article from a good friend today. It's written by Buddy Hackett's widow and I believe says what so many of us believe to be true.......unfortunately.

Shalom,

Peter

This was written by Sherry Hackett,....
Buddy Hackett's widow........

"WE NOTICED"

President Obama:
Today I read of your administrations' plan
to re-define September11 as a National
Service Day. Sir, it's time we had a talk.........

During your campaign, Americans watched as
you made mockery of our tradition of standing
and crossing your heart when the Pledge of
Allegiance was spoken. You, out of four people
on the stage, were the only one not honoring
our tradition.

YES, "We noticed."

During one of your many speeches, Americans
heard you say that you intended to visit all 57
states. We all know that Islam, not America
has 57 states.

YES, "We noticed."

When President Bush leaned over at Ground
Zero and gently placed a flower on the memorial,
while you nonchalantly tossed your flower onto
the pile without leaning over.

YES, "We noticed."

Every time you apologized to other countries for
America's position on an issue we have
wondered why you don't share our pride in this
great country. When you have heard foreign
leaders berate our country and our beliefs, you
have not defended us. In fact, you insulted the
British Crown beyond belief.

YES, "We noticed."

When your pastor of 20 years, "God-****ed
America " and said that 9/11 was " America's
chickens coming home to roost" and you
denied having heard recriminations of that nature,
we wondered how that could be. You later
disassociated yourself from that church and
Pastor Wright because it was politically
expedient to do so.

YES, "We noticed."

When you announced that you would
transform America , we wondered why. With
all her faults, America is the greatest country
on earth. Sir, KEEP THIS IN MIND, "if
not for America and the people who built her,
you wouldn't be sitting in the White House
now." Prior to your election to the highest office
in this Country, you were a senator from Illinois
and from what we can glean from the records
available, not a very remarkable one.

YES, "We noticed."

All through your campaign and even now, you
have surrounded yourself with individuals who
are basically unqualified for the positions for
which you appointed them. Worse than that,
the majority of them are people who, like you,
bear no special allegiance, respect, or affection
for this country and her traditions.

YES, "We noticed."

You are 9 months into your term and every morning
millions of Americans wake up to a new horror
heaped on us by you. You seek to saddle working
Americans with a health care/insurance reform
package that, along with cap and trade, will bankrupt
this nation.

YES, "We noticed."

We seek, by protesting, to let our representatives
know that we are not in favor of these crippling
expenditures and we are labeled "un-American",
"racist", "mob". We wonder how we are supposed
to let you know how frustrated we are. You have
attempted to make our protests seem isolated and
insignificant. Until your appointment, Americans
had the right to speak out.

YES, "We noticed."

On September11, 2001 there were no Republicans
or Democrats, only Americans. And we all grieved
together and helped each other in whatever way we
could. The attack on 9/11 was carried out because
we are Americans.

And YES, "We noticed."

There were many of us who prayed that as a black
president you could help unite this nation. In six
months you have done more to destroy this nation
than the attack on 9/11. You have failed us.

YES, "We noticed."

September 11 is a day of remembrance for all
Americans. You propose to make 9/11 a "National
Service Day". While we know that you don't share
our reverence for 9/11, we pray that history will
report your proposal as what it is...a disgrace.

YES, "We noticed."

You have made a mockery of our Constitution and
the office that you hold. You have embarrassed and
slighted us in foreign visits and policy.

YES, "We noticed.."

We have noticed all these things. We will deal with
you. When Americans come together again, it will
be to remove you from office.

Take notice.

Love one another with a pure heart fervently...1 Peter
1:22
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RE: HSIG - Swine Flu Vaccine - Yea Or Nay
11/4/2009 7:29:14 AM
Hello Friends,

Dry Bones hit the nail on the head with today's issue.

Swine Flu Vaccine yea or nay? I for one am passing on this one. There is to much negative information about the vaccine and more. To make matters worse B Hussein created an additional fear now with his National Emergency. That alone nixes the vaccine for me. I don't trust the guy.

Shalom,

Peter



SometimesI long for the "good old days", when I was a kid. (In the long-agotime). Back then we thought that Medical Doctors were scientists andmini-gods. We trusted them.

Slang for something that was good for you was "just what the doctor ordered".

Thesedays, American TV ads for the latest drug carry a fast-talking list ofthe unfortunate but possible side-effects of the stuff that they wantyou to get from your doctor. So the ad sells us the benefits and alsowarns us about the side-effects.

If it's up to us todecide what we want, and we don't know enough to make a rationaldecision, then it's no wonder that there's fear in every option.

Including the taking or shunning of the Swine Flu vaccine.

* * *

Thelast story I heard on the TV news in America was that the U.S.government was going to give the vaccine to the "detainees" atGuantanamo Bay. I'm sure that if I were one of those Gitmo prisonersI'd choose shunning rather than taking.

-Dry Bones- Israel's Political Comic Strip Since 1973
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