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Thomas Richmond

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Re: JOE BUCCHERI WANTS TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
8/26/2008 5:22:08 PM
Jack wheeler makes no sense at all, he has nothing to back up his claim! Heres an update AP - Former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton is closing out her history-making 2008 quest for the White House Tuesday with a prime-time appearance tonight at the Democratic National Convention, while party leaders were caught up in curious debate about the wisdom of assailing Republican John McCain from the podium. P.s. im not for either of these canidates. Good evening Joe. God_bless you
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8/27/2008 6:32:18 AM

Hello "Team".

Jo, You seem to be a very zealous supporter of Barack Obama. I respect you greatly and appreciate your friendship but I find your posts to be without any reasons for your loyal support. Those that are against this man state their reasons but so far I only read your accusations that their posts are senseless and maybe even racist.

You wrote: This man has more substance than any candidate that has run for the presidential office in many, many years. All I'm asking is for you to show what this substance you're talking about is. So far I haven't seen any proof of that and aside from his oratory skills there's nothing to him. Change is a word that any one can use but the problem with his record and it's not an impressive one what will he change to?? Please enlighten me and give me reasons for your avid support of this man.

Jo, I am not a racist but I must say that the thought of him in the White House with his America loving wife as First Lady Frightens the hell out of me.

Joe B, I am impressed to see that you finally wrote an opinion of your own. One of the first times I've seen that.

I agree with what you had to say and yesterday I received an email about the lawsuit against Barack Obama's Claim to US Citizenship. I've been aware of this issue for quite a while now and couldn't understand why it wasn't brought to the attention of the public. I posted the article in it's entirety in a thread in my forum and invite any interested to come and read it here. http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/thread/1101356.aspx

Kathleen, unfortunately your claim that Barack Obama is illegitimate is foundless. In Islam marriage to more then one woman is allowed and all the children are legitimate. Barack's father was a Moslem so that should clear up the issue about being legal or not. His citizenship in other countries and whether he is even a US citizen are more important questions now.

I think the real question now is "WILL THE REAL BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PLEASE STAND UP".

Shalom,

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Re: JOE BUCCHERI WANTS TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
8/27/2008 1:07:55 PM

Amen, Peter!

 

 

"All I'm asking is for you to show what this substance you're talking about is. So far I haven't seen any proof of that and aside from his oratory skills there's nothing to him. Change is a word that any one can use but the problem with his record and it's not an impressive one what will he change to?? Please enlighten me and give me reasons for your avid support of this man."

 

"I think the real question now is "WILL THE REAL BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PLEASE STAND UP"."

 

 

And your link http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/thread/1101356.aspx

gave me an idea!

http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/thread/1101621.aspx

 

God Bless America!

 

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Re: JOE BUCCHERI WANTS TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
8/27/2008 1:17:19 PM

Hello Everyone,

Lets not forget about Peter Fogels Topic in his forum here at Adland, Heres a article some one sent him.

ELECTION 2008
Democrat sues Sen. Obama over 'fraudulent candidacy'
Lawsuit claims party nominee can't be president if he's not American citizen

Posted: August 23, 2008
5:40 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2008 WorldNetDaily


                                     Philip J. Berg

A prominent Pennsylvania Democrat has sued Sen. Barack Obama,
the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission,
claiming that Obama is not a natural-born citizen and, therefore, is not eligible
to be
president of the United States.

Philip J. Berg, a former member of Pennsylvania's Democratic State Committee
and former deputy
attorney general of Pennsylvania, filed the lawsuit this week
 in U.S
District Court, asking the court to declare Obama ineligible for the
presidency and to prevent him from running for the position.

A separate motion was also filed seeking a temporary restraining order on
Obama's presidential campaign until Obama's eligibility can be verified.

The lawsuit claims Barack Obama's eligibility is questionable on several grounds, including the allegation that he was born in Kenya to parents unable to automaticallygrant him American citizenship, that his Hawaii birth certificate is a forgery, that he was made a citizen of Indonesia as a child and that he retained foreign citizenship into adulthood without recording an oath of allegiance to regain any theoretical American citizenship.In short, the suit claims Obama was not born an American citizen, lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child, may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries. If any, much less all, of these allegations are true, the suit claims, Obama cannot constitutionally serve as president.

Why would a Democrat do this to his party's own candidate? And why right before the National
Convention?


'Eighteen million Democratic Primary voters donated money, volunteered their time and energy, worked very hard and then not only supported Senator Clinton, but voted for her,' Berg stated in a press release about the suit. 'All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing
because (Obama) lied and cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process.'Berg explained in a radio interview with Roger Hedgecock of KOGO in San Diego that Internet reports had been persistent over the l
ast several months that Obama's birth certificate was a forgery and that he may not be an eligible,natural-born citizen. After doing his own careful research, Berg explained, he came to the conclusion the reports were more fact than rumor and that he needed to act quickly, before the election process proceeded.'I filed this action at this time,' said Berg in a press release, 'to avoid the obvious problemsthat will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.'


School record that lists 'Barry Soetoro,' a.k.a. Barack Obama, as Indonesian citizen (AP photo)

 

WND has coveredmany of these reports,including thenecessity ofObama's birth on American soil to establish his U.S. citizenship, the allegations that the birth certificate he provided is a forgery and his reported Indonesian citizenship as a child.

The lawsuit, however, contends there is enough truth in the various reports to conclude, 'Unfortunately, Obama is not a 'natural born' citizen.'

For example, the suit alleges that while records exist of a 'registry of birth' for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil.

'Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya,' the suit states. 'Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth.'

The suit further claims that the Republicans 'sent a research team to Mombasa, Kenya and located a Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a Maternity Hospital, to his father, a Kenyan Citizen and his mother, a U.S. Citizen.'

Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama's mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and Barack's American citizenship.

Even after her divorce and return to the U.S., the suit says, 'Obama's mother failed to take the oath in order to regain her U.S. Citizenship. Therefore, Obama would not have been able to regain his U.S.
Citizenship until he turned 18 years (and) after he took the oath of allegiance.''Since the oath of allegiance would have been entered in the records of the appropriate embassy, legation, consulate, court or the
Attorney General, if Plaintiff is incorrect, then Obama should be able to produce in Court a certified copy of the proceedings, including a copy of the oath administered,' the suit states.

According to the text of the lawsuit, an investigation has shown that in 1981, 'Obama traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian passport. At the time of travels to Indonesia, Obama was 20 years old. He was well aware
he maintained his Indonesia citizenship, and failed to regain his United States citizenship. … Even if Obama maintained his United States Citizenship, which he failed to do, he also carries citizenships in Kenya and Indonesia.
Obama has divided loyalties with foreign countries. Thus, Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States.'

Berg claims the lawsuit is necessary, not only to protect the Constitution, but also to protect the integrity of the Democratic Party.

' If the DNC officers and/or leaders had performed one ounce of due diligence, we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship,' said Berg in his press release. 'The injunctive relief must be granted because failing to do so, (the DNC's) inaction defrauds
everyone who voted in the Democratic Primary.'

John Grant

Attorney at Law Florida State Senator (Ret.) Grant Law Group 20719 Sterlington Drive Land O' Lakes, Florida 34638

Office:  813-909-4529 

Cell:  813-787-9900 

legal@johngrant.net

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Re: JOE BUCCHERI WANTS TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
8/27/2008 1:23:05 PM

Hi Peter, and Jo,

Lots of black women are strong supporters of Hillary Clinton.  This election may have some racial issues, but the main issues are not about race.  There are several black people who are far more qualified to run for President or Vice-President, including Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, and former Leiutenant Governor of Maryland, Michael Steele.   All Republicans, by the way!  Michael Steele appears on Fox News a lot and is also the chairman of GOPAC.  http://www.gopac.org

 

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