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Re: God Bless America - What would the world be like without the U.S.A.?
7/4/2006 2:11:54 PM
Dave ! Just to touch on your reply to Philena I have just yesterday read Proverbs Chapter 3. There are some answers there. Philena ! Please don't wish the aliens here -they will only get sick with some earthly virus :-) "War Of The Worlds" !
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Re: God Bless America - What would the world be like without the U.S.A.?
7/4/2006 3:05:10 PM
Hello Hong-Le, I am sorry to that you are ashamed that I consider the Americans to be good friends, as well as close allies and neighbours. I would respectfully suggest that you need to study world history, especially in the 20th century, a lot more closely. To say that without the Americans there would be no wars is simply a grave error. There are many wars around the world even now that the US is not and has never been involved in. WWI was not started by the US. WWII was not started by the US. In fact, the US did all they could by diplomatic means to try to prevent WWII. You can actually read photocopied transcripts of letters to Hitler pleading with him NOT to attack his neighbours. The Korean war was not started by the US. The US did not kill everyone in Cambodia who had an education, was a civil servant, was a religious leader, or who in any way represented the existing culture at the time that Pol Pot took over. The US did not attack Kuwait. The US did not kill thousands of Kurds in Iraq, as well as thousands of Shia civilians in that same country. Take the US out of the world situation, and you can be assured that the world would explode in war, as no one would be their to hold back the tide. You believe that the US was not justified in going into Iraq. That, dear lady, is because you have chosen to believe what you want to believe, that Saddam Hussein was not all that bad, that he wasn't really an aggressor, that he didn't, in fact, have WMD's (which he definitely did - ask the families of the Kurds he gassed - he simply moved them out of the country when the inspectors came in). Do a Google search on the Butcher of Baghdad, and the first article you will find is one from within that area, a Shia news source, not American: http://www.shianews.com/hi/articles/politics/0000346.php Read the article if your stomach can stand it, and then tell me the war is not justified. God bless, Dave
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Re: God Bless America - What would the world be like without the U.S.A.?
7/4/2006 4:26:20 PM
Hello Dave, Excellent forum you have here!!! Thank you so much for running this professionally. There is allot of respect here for you and what your forum is about. God Bless!! This said it all, "Real friends respect one another even if they don't agree on everything all the time"! Your Friend,
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Re: God Bless America - What would the world be like without the U.S.A.?
7/4/2006 4:28:43 PM
Dave, Just wanted to say thanks to you for your courage in starting this thread in light of what happened last time and also your kind words about the USA. My father served 2 terms in WWII, my uncles also served and I lost an uncle in the Air Force during WWII. His body was never found. My aunt was a WAC and I have cousins who served in Korea and Vietnam. I also have a cousin who is currently serving in Iraq. I doubt any of them enjoyed their time in the service but they all knew that freedom isn't free. I am very grateful to all who have served their countries to fight the tyranical and those who would do harm to their own so that I can live in a free country, that for all of our faults, people still seem to be coming here and want to live. I must ask, though, where would France be today without the USA? Sorry, that one got me too. Happy Canada Day, belated, and a happy Independence Day to all. Linda
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Re: God Bless America - What would the world be like without the U.S.A.?
7/4/2006 6:31:56 PM
What wonderful spirit in the Country that God made to be a light to the world! "To whom much is given, much is required!" Our greatness comes with a calling and duty. We were not given such power and greatness just for our own pleasure; the idea that we ought to just take care of ourselves opposes the purpose of our existence. This country, while being our priveledge and blessing to exist in and call our own, is ultimately God's own creation, and it's continued prosperity and power and peace rests upon our commitment to fullfill our calling to the world. I am reminded of God's wisdom, If we seek to save our life we'll lose it, but if we give our life away, we'll gain it. When we give, God gives to us; in order to see a continued flow of the wonderful freedom and liberty that is a physical manifestation in America of a greater spiritual freedom, we will need to remember the origin of our making and our created purpose and calling, because truly we were given this Great Country, and the power that created it can, if we fail to fullfill our purpose, also uncreate it. God's purpose is to all, and toward all, and his purpose is Love. I doubt that any of us hate war as God does. I suspect that we do though share and experience a measure of the same sadness and pain he does when any of his people are oppressed, attacked, and destroyed. I imagine that His desire is for this world to Learn Love, to learn better ways to solve problems than by war, but we havn't reached that point yet, and we can't just sit by either can we? We are not called to just sit by, as again, we are called to be a beacon of light to the world, perhaps a sort of savior to the world. I share a huge respect and appreciation and honor to those who have and do spend themselves for what they've been called upon to fight for. To think that anyone would call vain the purpose a son of mine might give his life for, is a heartbreaking thought. There is a cause in the heart's of these people, a great feeling of duty to protect the ideals of right for all of God's people, and we can assist them in their fight by fighting right here for the same things they are fighting for over there, and I think that is what we can do to really support them! Afterall, the fight for right, for individual freedom and prosperity, is not just abroad, but exists right in our own communities, if we open our eyes to the subtle influences that condition complacent minds to defend only personal ease and comfort, while forces are at work that devise to steal and destroy the liberty and access to freedoms that can be taken for granted when we have not known a life void of so much freedom and so much potential to be an individual. Wonderful words and thoughts from all of you. We really are One in the spirit of what America was created to be, and that spirit is not reserved just for America, but perhaps America is not just a place but a spirit that God found or created, again to be a light in this world. And if we are a light of God's to this world, it behooves us to remember our origin and our purpose, so that we may continue on in the blessings that we know physically but are a result of the Spirit that birthed this great land of of Freedom and Love.
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