Dave,

I would say that there may 90% or more of the marketing programs that are aimed at the newbies and they are a Seller, Selling the Seller game.

There are a few like you say that actually work, but I have found over the years that it is best to find a gooe lead source, one that will provide leads that have the full name, physical address, email address, phone # and they should have a date and time stamp included.

The date and time stamp assures you that they are fresh, and will provide a defense if any of them claim that you have spamed them.

A person can get leads that are local to  their area and are targeted to their product or service.

I look at it in this sense, I would rather have 10 leads that are seriously seaking a business, than have 10,000 that are just people that are surffing the net.

Hi Art, I remember a pop song from the 60s or 70s with the line, "Nothing from nothing leaves nothing." How true that is. It IS easy to guarantee to double or triple most people's sales, when their sales aren't happening! You'll also notice that on the more "honest" of these sites, there's a little disclaimer at the end telling those who read it that results are not guaranteed.... Why would you buy it??? God bless, Dave

Dave, you have opened a thought provoking soul searching discussion.

"The best program I've ever seen.." Do I believe it? No. "Money kept on coming.." Do I believe it? No.  Success Stories.. Are they really true? If these claims are not true, why do people make these false claims.

Some people are smart enough to sell even the worst programs and get lot of referrals and make lot of money. On the other hand, there are others who happen to buy into these  programs, may I say trapped in these, and are desparately trying to recover the monthly fees.

While I may not be a good judge in choosing a program to join, I have my strategy in case... That is, Take my losses and pull out.

Ehics in business is something wedon't see often.

 

Here! Here!

I completely agree with you.

Why would anyone promote something they haven't used? If it's crap, and you sell it to those who will use it, you're in the dog house buddy.

Putting it differently: What do you suppose would happen if... You were selling soap, that you'd never tried, and suddenly you have all your customers telling you the soap made them smell like Pine-Sol.

Wouldn't that be fun?

Why associate your name to something you're not sure about? After all... It's your reputation.

Have a good one!

Trina

Hi Amanda, I've tried to answer your post several times, but have had trouble posting. I guess some upgrades or maintenance must have been going on with the servers. Adlandpro and EFS are two very different concepts which, I believe, really compliment each other. It takes a while to get used to anything new, but it definitely is worth it. If your time dictates that you have to choose between the two, I would put Adlandpro first, as the time you spend visiting and posting interesting subjects and thoughtful answers on forums, while always including your signature file, are the most valuable thing you can do. God bless, Dave