Hi Kathy,

I wish that I was nearer to your family than I am. This problem is not solveable over the internet. Unfortunately I am in the U.K.

What I can say is this, Neuro Linguistic Therapy IS an answer but not a cheap one.

I say that because I believe that the person in question should not just be treated/helped but should replace their cult beliefs.

This is not just replacing one cult with another but what would be acheived is something of the clients own choice but in line with what they would consider improved levels of mainstream behavior.

I am due out of the door at this moment and this could take time to explain.

If you or your client contacts me here by Adland email I will supply my phone/email address and will do my utmost to find a solution nearer to their home.

Remember NLP, through modelling, relaces an inappropriate behavior with an appropriate one and doesn't seek to 'get rid of' the old one.

Rather than be treated, this person needs to learn to re-establish their own self-belief to a point where they could teach the same. In otherwords, learn to be a practitioner themselves.

Roger

 

Hey Kathy,

  I knew someone in New Mexico that got out of the cult in Waco before the tragedy. He was 17 and had been raised there so his deprogramming was a task. Counciling as was stated earlier is only effective with those who wish to be counciled. Cults use fear of your worst case senarios coming true to weaken you, they blast your self estmeme by saying you can not fight it, there is no way for you to win, then force their will by stepping in as a guardian angel. They say, Your are facing unbeatable forces working against you, but they can and will help you avoid your fate as long as you trust them to lead you in the right direction.

  From that breaking point where you feel lost and helpless they come in and rescue you from your fears, and as your hero you will follow all they tell you in the future. This same technique was used by Hitler in the Nazi schools, where children were scared into seeing the 3rd Riech as their only salvation, and is the strength behind the Muslim Gihad extreemest who would strap a bomb to themselves out of a overzealous fear of reprisal and exile, or dishonorable death.

  Organized religeon bears some similarities, in the fact that the pitch goes, you are going to hell, this is why, you were born into it, you are unclean. Where it differs is that Jesus Christ is offered as the salvation and the bible as his will and code, thus we follow his teachings. Cults use the bible as a lead in and usually the leader claims to be Christ re-incarnate or one of the many prophets spoke of in the new testiment. They prey on the abused, and those with a guilty conceince, offer salvation through the acts of a mortal man/woman.

  Religeon can help or hamper the recovery, depending on the timing. Supporting, encouraging, and bolstering self esteme must be the first step because as long as the victim sees themselves as worthless, or less than worthy they will continue to attach to leaders and could easily fall prey again.

Andy Zeus Anderson

P.S.

  My friends cousins was lucky, as his wake up call came 3 months before the FBI stormed the compound. Funny that lust and envy should cause him to question and be exiled. He had found a very supportive family waiting on the outside and was considering a life in the church as a baptist minister and recovery councilor.

Hello, Kathy I have to agree with Rudy and Keith, It's definately not my field of expertise but I must say this, One must realize where he or she is in order for them to want to make the change or get help, the whole key is that they must really realize where they are and really want to make the change in order to help themselves, now that's a fact! Sorry Kathy I can't help much but it's a start. Whatever help they seek It must be a dedicated continued effort, an everyday fight to take control of there lives everyday, until they feel that they have complete control of there lives everyday. This is an evil holocaust that is plaguing our society, in order for them to gain control they must first seek the Kingdom of God All His Righteousness, and He will Direct There Paths!! God Bless Just A Word Of The Wise! May God Bless Them In Every way! Sincerely Richard & Cheryl

I'm lost here, I read that all the way through and I can't seem to "get it" the same way others have.

It seems that this is an article that is describing this problem, (brain washing by cults) how it's poorly dealt with or understood by most, then at the end a short advertisement for improved treatment by the writer.

So if I've read this correctly, what is the help that is needed?

If he wants the article published he submits it to free article sites with his contact information in tact.

Or he could develope a blog on this topic.

Somehow I think I failed to understand this forum and the desperate need for help.

Susan Dorey

Hi Kathy,

I do see the need of professionalism here these people do require mental counciling and at the same time you have to remember what they have been through.Cult influence is a major influance and can desturb the mind enormously.Iam sure the cult influance will leave marks in thier minds for the rest of thier lives as a world war veteran has marks in thier mind forever.

Educate yourself on cult related material put yourself in thier shoes walk with them and see if it works better for you.

Thank you,

Lisa