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Kathleen Vanbeekom

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Re: A Really Bad Idea - Guaranteed Signups
1/30/2007 1:33:25 PM

Hi Dave,

I like your expression "screaming success machine"...Haha!

A lot of the scammy guaranteed clicks are from non-English speaking employee warehouses where dozens of people are sitting there repetitively clicking with no idea of how to read our offers and absolutely no interest in it anyway, its just a job for them.

Even IF those clickers were reading our offers, and joining, it doesn't mean anything.  Lots of people quit before giving an effort, and one of your other posters here is right about only a small amount of people in any downline actually does any real work.  The majority of the group money comes from a very small minority of motivated members.  It's like that in almost every MLM structure.  If a serious upline sponsor would just seriously mentor a few downliners at a time, 2 or 3 per month, and get them to seriously work with a few at a time, level per level, the group would eventually earn a good income like a truly well-oiled machine working at a moderately progressive pace.  Too many people want an outrageous income within their first 30-90 days or else they give up, or they switch to a more successful sponsor in hopes of getting rich under a different person, while still not putting in their own effort.  Lots of companies now have "anti-sponsor jumping" rules in place for that, where if someone quits, they can't rejoin for more than 30 days. 

Guaranteed clicks or sign-ups mean nothing, if they are from people who didn't even read the offer and are getting some sort of third-party payment for clicking or joining with you.

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Re: A Really Bad Idea - Guaranteed Signups
1/30/2007 1:57:48 PM

Hello Dave,

Thanks for posting this. I agree with what you posted 100%. I have never used guaranteed signups but know a few people who did. They are no longer affiliates of their respective companies as they were terminated because of this. Just another ploy/scam to cheat newbies.

Take care,

Robert

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Re: A Really Bad Idea - Guaranteed Signups
1/30/2007 9:46:07 PM

Hi, Dave,

Once again you have given something to think about! I have been with Webbizinsider for years and they do advertise your sight as I have seen mine on someone elses computer one day! Take a look and see if I should just give it up or is it worth my time. I would really appreciate it.

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Re: A Really Bad Idea - Guaranteed Signups
1/31/2007 3:47:38 AM
Hi Arthur, I kind of compare guaranteed signups to someone who builds a store way out in the woods, where nobody can see it or even know it's there. Then they pay a warden from a prison to send them a truck load of prisoners and say, "Wow! Look at all the customers we got!" Traffic doesn't equal sales. Buyers equal sales. Your business has to be "located" where the buyers of your product will see it. In the online world, that means you have to go looking for buyers, and then let them know where they can find you and why they should buy from you instead of 100s of others. Thanks for the wise words. God bless, Dave
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Re: A Really Bad Idea - Guaranteed Signups
1/31/2007 3:51:16 AM
Hi James, Thank you for the article on Downline Clubs. Yes, they are another barely legal scam, right up there with Forced Matrixes, Powerlines, etc. God bless, Dave
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