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Roger 3169 7333 Haslemere	RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI 12/25/2012 8:51:12 AM
	Miguel, Before we get into any detail we need to look at the sheer beauty of the compositions and execution. Wierd and strange, maybe, but nobody can deny the mastery of techniques. Dali Traditional elements and obvious inspiration from past masters are there to see but his presentation is all his. Stunning works. Roger
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Luis Miguel 1162 61587 Lima	RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI 12/25/2012 6:35:28 PM
	Roger, If this can be said at all, I believe Dali reached his highest as a consummate artist precisely around the decade during which he painted the whole of these religious works, from 1949 to 1959. This of course excludes The Sacred Heart of Jesus, painted in 1962 and clearly different from all the other religious works in both composition and color, but most significantly includes The Discovery of America by Christopher Columbus (of 1958-59) which, in a sense, can be considered a religious work as well. Of course he painted other master works in other decades, but to me, it is as if he had made a vow, around the decade that I am talking about, to leave specially beautiful and majestic works to posterity. In effect, I have been doing some research and during it several points have come to light, like his emotional frame of mind over that period of time, his specially arduous dedication to planning and executing those works, the huge size of most of them and, among other fascinating details, his realizing them on a definite geometrical pattern, which by the way evidences how much he owed in the matter of inspiration and in his composition skills to the works of the great masters of the Renaissance and other European schools - with particular emphasis in Velazquez and Vermeer. Something that is immediately visible, for example, is that he painted his first version of The Virgin of Port Lligat immediately after completing his Leda Atomica (both in 1949) and that the latter follows exactly the same geometrical pattern than the former and, of course, than its second version of 1950. Here is an image showing this pattern in his Leda Atomica (you may find it here); how it was inspired in turn in Leonardo's Leda and the Swan you can see in the image immediately below. Similar patterns can of course be found in Dali's Virgin of Guadalupe, in his Asummpta Corpuscularia Lapislazulina, in 'Santiago el Grande' (all in the previous page) and, of course, in his Christ of Saint John of the Cross (you may see it in page 4 of this thread). Another visible example (yet not that visible) you may find in Dali's Discovery of America by Christopher Columbus, which motivated this whole thread, where "everything in it," in the words of a famous art critic, "springs from the four petals of a jasmine flower exploding in an atomic cloud of creative genius..." And so on, so forth for all Dali's religious master works of that magical decade. Hugs, Miguel Quote: Miguel, Before we get into any detail we need to look at the sheer beauty of the compositions and execution. Wierd and strange, maybe, but nobody can deny the mastery of techniques. Dali Traditional elements and obvious inspiration from past masters are there to see but his presentation is all his. Stunning works. Roger
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Roger 3169 7333 Haslemere	RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI 12/26/2012 12:59:11 AM
	Miguel, Thank you for this information. The compositions are so complicated and your detail helps to reveal some techniques. I am in the process of experimenting with the opaque qualities of certain colours in acrylic paints. I know what my next painting is but it requires overpainting light onto dark. Something not possible with watercolour. When I see what Dali manages I am even more in awe.
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Luis Miguel 1162 61587 Lima	RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI 12/26/2012 1:35:11 AM
	You are very welcome, Roger; it is that I was feeling all of Dali's religious paintings that I posted yesterday (I guess urged by the spirit of Christmas) were still needing at least a few comments after your post sort of prompted me into it. By the way, I think it likely that Dali had the same problem that you describe, which might have made him resort to gouache (which he frequenly used) which if I am not mistaken is pretty opaque, unlike watercolor which certainly is not. Quote: Miguel, Thank you for this information. The compositions are so complicated and your detail helps to reveal some techniques. I am in the process of experimenting with the opaque qualities of certain colours in acrylic paints. I know what my next painting is but it requires overpainting light onto dark. Something not possible with watercolour. When I see what Dali manages I am even more in awe.
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Roger 3169 7333 Haslemere	RE: The Surrealist Phenomenon - SALVADOR DALI 12/26/2012 11:08:47 AM
	Trying to stay ON-SUBJECT. My aim is to produce a similar painting style to this one but using tropical images. I am in touch with this arist for help with technique. (c) Carry Akroyd If you look at this painting it is difficult to work out which image is opaque over or transparent under. Much more complicated than it looks. Dali was so good at it that it looks too easy.
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