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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
1/10/2012 2:14:49 AM

Miguel I appreciate your kind words and I can tell you that no one is enjoying this thread more than I am. With all the wonderful people posting and commenting here, it is just mind boggling and as I've said before, the response has exceeded my wildest expectations.

This is a great article you've posted and I can understand where the lady is coming from for the most part. Although we always had a roof over our heads when I was growing up, we were pretty much self sufficient. The only things I can remember being bought at the grocery store were sugar, corn meal, flour, salt, pepper and coffee and an occasional beef roast. Everything else we grew or raised. No one could cook fried chicken better than my mom and we were all slender, we didn't know what a weight problem was, and we rarely got sick.

Even when I was raising my family we always had a big garden and I canned and froze a lot of our food. I guess because it was a way of life when I was growing up. We would also go to the pick your own peach orchard and strawberry fields to pick strawberries. My kids loved it, especially going to the peach orchard. Those tree ripened peaches were out of this world and nothing like what you find in the stores now.

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Each day I get an inspirational quote in my inbox and this is the one I got today. :)

Inspirational Quote of the Day (Mon, 09 Jan 2012)

Any change, any loss, does not make us victims. Others can shake you, surprise you, disappoint you, but they can't prevent you from acting, from taking the situation you're presented with and moving on. No matter where you are in life, no matter what your situation, you can always do something. You always have a choice and the choice can be power.

Blaine Lee


Hi Mary Evelyn,

So far I have not missed any post here, this forum is clearly becoming a great favorite for many in this community.

Here is an article that caught my eye this afternoon. It suggests a likely way out now that things are turning pretty difficult worldwide. I have been following recent discussions here and in other forums, and I guess Mike, Myrna, Pat and probably others might be inspired by it.

Hugs,

Miguel

German Grandmother Lives Money-free and Has Never Been Happier

Most of us could go a day without spending any cash. But a week? How about sixteen years? That's how long 69-year-oldHeidemarie Schwermer, grandmother of three, has lived without money.Schwermer's odyssey is the subject of adocumentary film, Living Without Money, by directorLine Halvorsen, which is screening internationally and is also available on DVD.

Related link: Swap-o-Rama: Don't Buy if You Can Barter

In 1996, Schwermer, a former schoolteacher and psychotherapist, decided to try to live without money for a year as an experiment. As a child she had experienced deep deprivation as a refugee fleeing from Russian forces during World War II. Her family had escaped what was then East Prussia and ended up in Germany "penniless." She has always felt a sense of compassion and empathy for the homeless community in the city of Dortmund where she settled as an adult.

Two years before she began living completely without money, Schwermer had opened a swap shop where people could barter services and goods. It was such a success it gave her the confidence to take the leap of quitting her job, giving away all of her possessions except what could fit into a single suitcase and backpack, and moving out of her rental home. According to the Austrian Times, Schwermer says she "had become irritated by the greedy consumer society" she was witnessing.

She acknowledges that her friends were confused and her two grown daughters were initially shocked (she says they now accept her lifestyle). Schwermer lived nomadically, trading gardening, cleaning, and even therapy sessions for food and a place to sleep. She found it liberating: "Living without money gave me quality of life, inner wealth, and freedom."

Schwermer has written three books about her experiences. She says the first, "The Star Money Experiment" was quite successful and she passed out all the money she earned to people on the street, "in five mark coins," Germany's currency before the euro. She waived her advances on the other books and asked the publisher to give her royalties to charity.

Director Halvorsen told Yahoo! Shine, "Heidemarie's unique story made me want to create a film that challenges the viewer into questioning their own relationship to money and possessions." She explains, "The film does not teach you how to live without money, but is a portrait of a woman who has made a very courageous and inspiring choice."

Living without money in the United States

Schwermer's experiment is obviously extreme and Germany does have more of a social safety net than we do in the United States. But there are many ways to live with lessmoney here. You can get everything from a bicycle to kid's clothing without spending a penny by logging on to websites such as Freecycle. Craigslist also has a section devoted to giveaways. Apartment swaps and couch surfing are ways to travel on the cheap.Yahoo'sConscious Consumer blog has many other ideas for getting free stuff easily.


Related links:

Suzie Orman Talks Money Saving Secrets

No Groceries for a year: How one family saved money, lost weight and lived well

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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
1/10/2012 2:25:13 AM

Hi Kathleen, how true, we do have a choice but sometimes it takes a lot of courage to make some of those choices and make changes. Yes we definitely need to act upon the positive and not react to the negative, although most times it is too easy to react to the negative. Thank you for your thoughts. :)

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Hi Mary Evelyn,

People have the choice to let things get them down or to continually bounce back. I believe the human spirit constantly buoys itself up.

I read something a long time ago, I think it was by Denis Waitley (is that his name?) and he said something like...We need to act upon the positive, not react upon the negative. Also he had a line about...Habits begin as fragile threads of a web, and continue until they become strong cables. (So the things we choose to do on a consistent basis should hopefully be things that are good for us or lead us toward improving our lives and our goals, not ruining our health.)

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Each day I get an inspirational quote in my inbox and this is the one I got today. :)

Inspirational Quote of the Day (Mon, 09 Jan 2012)

Any change, any loss, does not make us victims. Others can shake you, surprise you, disappoint you, but they can't prevent you from acting, from taking the situation you're presented with and moving on. No matter where you are in life, no matter what your situation, you can always do something. You always have a choice and the choice can be power.

Blaine Lee

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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
1/10/2012 3:26:45 AM
Hello everyone,

Great articles and shares which I have enjoyed reading.

I came across this video of a 91 year old woman cooking a Poor mans meal or meal that she would have cooked during the Depression.
This is her website for anyone interested http://www.greatdepressioncooking.com/

This is a dish I often cook for James and I but did not know it was a Depression meal, just a way of using up leftover cold meat, or I have used hamburger, bacon, hot-dogs, sausages, sausage meat etc something quick and easy. Sometimes instead of potatoes I have used rice as James loves rice.. Onions are a great vegetable to add flavour and seasonings of various bottles I have up in the cupboard help enhance the flavour.

Back in New Zealand I always peeled the potatoes, but since being in the States I leave the skins on and wash well as I read that the skins offer fiber as well as nutrition so like many of the old school ways that my mother used to do I have changed my ways e.g. when water from the vegetables were drained off down the sink hole (the most healthy drains around) I have changed quite a lot of my overall cooking and keep the vegetable water and make gravy or if I have nothing to use it on the dogs get it poured into their dry dog food which they love, it gives their meal a boost.


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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
1/10/2012 4:10:13 AM
10_1_136.gifHi Amanda,
Yes, when you peel the skin off the potatoes, you are throwing out the most nutricious part of the meal. I try not to throw out anything. My mother had what she called a stock pot. After each meal she would drain the juice from the vegetables into the pot and place the vegetables in an airtight container. She would do the same with the left-over meat. The pot was placed on a shelf in the pantry which remained cool. Around Wednesday or Thursday she would mix everything together and make a stew, possibly with the addition of home made dumplings. Although through the week each meal was good, I looked forward to Stew night because that was usually the best tasting meal of the week. For the longest time, Shirley would not eat my homemade soup, but one day for lunch she found a bowl of soup in the refrigerator and heated up about half of it. I also sometime ad beans. When she finished it, she said that it was delicious. She asked me what I put in it. I thought for a second and said "Everything." Also, did you know that left-over spaghetti taste better the second and third time around? The first time you cook it, you boil the spaghetti and you heat the sauce. The second time you fry it in butter, margarine, or whatever which brings out the flavor of the spices and the tomato sauce that were first boiled. I do remember that my mother you to call her stews Depression Stews because until my brothers and sisters married and moves on she had to always cook meals that would stretch like pasta, rice, beans, all of which expanded upon cooking. If I could just get Shirley to like beans and rice I would never have a problem on meals because we have plenty on hand. I also have frozen celery because every so often I will throw a handful in whatever I'm cooking, to give it that extra flavor. Another time saver is Scallions. These grow wild in most places and you can pick as much as you want, wash them out good and freeze them for when they are needed. I love mushrooms, however I am not about to pick wild ones. With my luck I would pick all the poison ones and leave the edible ones where they are.
GOD BLESS YOU
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RE: Mary Evelyn's Koffee Klatch
1/10/2012 5:18:48 AM
Hello Mike,

I agree, the second time around of a meal heated up next day has better flavour, especially homemade soup. I use lots of potatoes as they make a wonderful base and the soup is self thickening.

I do not usually have spaghetti left over, James loves this dish so will go back for more. I make this with hamburger meat and spaghetti sauce I usually have on hand but the few times I haven't I make with tomatoe sauce, add an onion and anything else I have e.g. mushrooms, seasonings. Last night I made spaghetti and made half hamburger and half sausage meat which was a change.

I do not always have sausage meat on hand but we were out and about last week at http://www.nogoatsnogloryfarm.com/ and bought some meat, eggs after walking around their farm meeting the animals. We have chickens but not laying yet. I am thinking about getting a nanny in milk so I can have my own unpasteurized healthy milk and perhaps even learn how to make cheese as I love cheese and it is skyrocketing in price. We will have to wait until springtime. We are trying to be more self sufficient.

Yesterday went by http://buffalocreekfarmnc.com and stopped in there.
I bought a brick of Amish butter, much cheaper than in the stores and cut into pieces and froze it.
We have been finding several farms raising animals, quail, chickens etc for sale as well as meat, veges all fairly close to us.

My mother use to buy a lot of beef mince (hamburger meat here) which I also always have plenty on hand, because you do so much with it.

I use to love mince on toast the next day for lunch. My mother would cook the mince in about quarter of the saucepan of water, then leave it to go cold and scoop the hardened fat (grease) off the top. Reheat with carrots and onions added and when the veges were cooked thinken with flour and water into a paste and added in slowly until it thickens.

Back in New Zealand we would go out about March / April to pick mushrooms - the button sized are similar looking to cultivated. But mostly we would gather the bigger ones that have a flatter top. Often I would eat them raw. You could see the white dots growing out on hillsides and knew where to stop and go pick with your bucket. As NZ does not have the worry of poisonous mushrooms and they are easy to spot the difference to toadstools or puffballs. Wild mushrooms are so much tastier than cultivated, but still tasty

Amanda

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10_1_136.gifHi Amanda,
Yes, when you peel the skin off the potatoes, you are throwing out the most nutricious part of the meal. I try not to throw out anything. My mother had what she called a stock pot. After each meal she would drain the juice from the vegetables into the pot and place the vegetables in an airtight container. She would do the same with the left-over meat. The pot was placed on a shelf in the pantry which remained cool. Around Wednesday or Thursday she would mix everything together and make a stew, possibly with the addition of home made dumplings. Although through the week each meal was good, I looked forward to Stew night because that was usually the best tasting meal of the week. For the longest time, Shirley would not eat my homemade soup, but one day for lunch she found a bowl of soup in the refrigerator and heated up about half of it. I also sometime ad beans. When she finished it, she said that it was delicious. She asked me what I put in it. I thought for a second and said "Everything." Also, did you know that left-over spaghetti taste better the second and third time around? The first time you cook it, you boil the spaghetti and you heat the sauce. The second time you fry it in butter, margarine, or whatever which brings out the flavor of the spices and the tomato sauce that were first boiled. I do remember that my mother you to call her stews Depression Stews because until my brothers and sisters married and moves on she had to always cook meals that would stretch like pasta, rice, beans, all of which expanded upon cooking. If I could just get Shirley to like beans and rice I would never have a problem on meals because we have plenty on hand. I also have frozen celery because every so often I will throw a handful in whatever I'm cooking, to give it that extra flavor. Another time saver is Scallions. These grow wild in most places and you can pick as much as you want, wash them out good and freeze them for when they are needed. I love mushrooms, however I am not about to pick wild ones. With my luck I would pick all the poison ones and leave the edible ones where they are.
GOD BLESS YOU
~Mike~
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