No Roger, you were not the one going into other peoples forums and harassing them over the business opportunity they were advertising.

Roger another thought- If we initiate the contact through a PM and we get a business offer back in return, can this be termed SPAM? After all we did send the first PM. Hmmm I wonder after looking up the meaning of SPAM.

1. To send unsolicited e-mail to.
2. To send (a message) indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups.

Hi POTW and friends!

I have followed carefully this discussion and I read all posts. I voted first day amongst the first five. Normally I use to point out who I cast my vote to! This time I did not write anything because I saw what Roger wrote so I decided to stay low and not to give any reply at that time.
Hmmm! For first time we have more replies here than votes. It is nice to see our old friends who don't vote, sharing their ideas to advice us. It seems that those friends care a lot always when there is a problem. I wonder what they suggested to the Admin before they jumped in here. They did probably nothing.

There are rules and criteria to be followed, good or bad rules and criteria have been discussed and there was an acceptance of them. Now to bring the discussion back refering to John Sanchez and Kathleen Vanbeekom and others that doesn’t help. That is ALP History with good and bad sides there too. This kind of critics are also a kind of spamming because those don't add anything positive and there is nothing new or anything to catch on to make a step forward. Always same background of same persons. I am sorry but this idiosyncrasy leads to idiocy and I am not stupid enough to accept that.

Honestly I don't give a cent to those critics because deniers of a any kind of work will never accept to recognize anything good and they will always come in to tell us how right they were the other day, or to tell us that every yesterday was better day. I stopped all direct contacts with AdLandPro members. Not to make my few enemies happier but because of their repeating of same history, besides all old active social workers left AdLandPro and meet in other communities.

Strangely all this kind of confrontations happens always after the autumnal equinox and this time every year. Maybe October is a bad moth for AdLandPro.

Life goes on and everything moves forward. It is like economy, one day the pointer shows upwards and next day it goes down. My intension with this post here is to let you know that all this speculation could be avoided by a PM to the forum Admin or the ALP Administration. They are capable to correct a failure or a mismatch as good as you do in your own homes when you see something bad.

I read and saw some offensive posts being deleted. Maybe this one will be deleted too. Anyhow I repost a video clip I sent some years back to show you that a united community is strong and happy able to solve any kind of problems.

KONX OM PANX
Click above and watch to the end.

Now take care all of you friends and enemies, a cold winter is coming and we have to make it comfortable for all of us. Who knows, we may not survive the winter.

Whatever else Georgios,

I'm always pleased to see you.

Your beautiful forums are missed.

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Roger dear, that might make him a SPAMMER in your eyes but this is a far cry from a SCAMMER. A SCAMMER is much more serious. Do you have proof he is a SCAMMER?They are two entirely different things.

He could have had you mixed up with several here in our community who go around offering free help when in reality what they are offering is a lead generation system to get leads for their opportunity. I get more of these offers in my PM inbox than any thing else and I would say he has too and in all likelihood he could have thought you were one of them and just retaliated with his own deal. I don't remember ever getting any SPAM from him although I could have and just don't remember.

When someone accepts my friends invitation I always send a short thank you note and a lot of times the person will respond with the latest greatest offer and some will even write "thanks for the ad" to which I will reply and say "Ad? What ad? I didn't send you an ad. I guess they had gotten so many they just came up with a generic answer. :) And then a lot times I get a note back thanking me for not blasting them with an ad and telling me how much they appreciated my not doing so. As I said I don't respond to SPAM (except in the afore mentioned example) and delete all such messages. I have noticed that usually the ones SPAMMING don't stay around long.

Mary,

With respect,

without going back and checking I don't know if I called the person a scammer, if I did that was not my intention, however I did call him a SPAMMER. Technically you may be right about the terms. What I know is that when you try to help and then get no reply other than an advert you don't want to help again but then the adverts keep coming.

What I think IS SO VERY SAD is this.

About a year ago I had an offer to take part in a legal and exciting venture with near enough guaranteed returns. I CAREFULLY selected a few Adland friends and invited them to LOOK (nothing hidden, no sign-up find out later stuff). My only contact was through PM's. NOT ONE even looked. Why? Because we have been so conditioned NOT TO TRUST that when something good comes along we don't look.

I am VERY SAD that this program will finish soon AND PAY OUT BIGTIMEand my friends here missed out. I shall not gloat. I probably won't even tell them. It's still sad though.

Let's try to build a community where we can trust each other. We might get hurt occassionally but that's life. Cyberworld is dangerous but so is the average city. We still have to venture out for bread.

Roger