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RE: Was this the ultimate reason for the mistaken exclusion?
11/11/2009 11:55:19 PM

Hey Roger,

If you ever use "boondoggle" in a rhyme or poem be sure to post a new thread here and let's all enjoy it!

Have a great one,

May Wisdom and the knowledge you gained go with you,



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RE: Was this the ultimate reason for the mistaken exclusion?
11/12/2009 2:56:40 PM
Hello Jim,

I wonder if you saw the different posts where I/we are told we should bow our heads in shame and worse then that too. One of the "unconditional lovers" called us the "vocal minority" and in a way I take that as a compliment but I fear she is mistaken since we're not so minor at least not according to the emails and chats I received. No PMs from them for some reason, I guess they prefer the anonymity and privacy of the internet.

Now the question remains and this is the reason for this post. Why in the world would they think I/we have to bow our heads in shame or ask for forgiveness? Did anyone bother reading my post that was factual, polite and respectful without insulting anyone or accusing any one of a thing aside from bumping AnaMaria's forum from the BFA contest list without any justification? I doubt very seriously whether any but a few read it but as usual the rest listened to the hysteria of those sending PMs, emails and chat messages.

It's been a year that I haven't participated in the BFA aside from voting for friends when they were contestants. I thought it right and fitting when a good friend was hurt for no reason especially one that so many claim to "love" dearly to bring it to the attention of the admins and unfortunately it was ignored instead of taking the action needed at the time to rectify the situation. If that hadn't happened another year would have passed and I wouldn't have participated in the forum.

They continue to talk about love and forgiveness and the only thing I saw a few days ago was hate and the desire for revenge. And revenge for what?A post about mistakes the BFA admin (in this case temp admin) made intentionally or not? No accusations in the post only facts. They saw fit to restart the issue of last year that for all of us (at least the"vocal minorities") was a closed issue.

Well, what could have been solved with a bit of transparency turned into a major issue and that wasn't the intention of the post.

I wonder if those that believe we're a "vocal minority" would be surprised to know and realize how many agree with us? The fact that we choose not to participate in their love fests and continue doing our own thing in our own way with our own beliefs in no way makes us anything but individualists and realists as opposed to those back slapping lovers and space cadets.

As for regrets? There are none aside from discovering some with a serious cases of multiple personalities. It wasn't a pretty sight and actually quite pitiful. Hmmmm, it would make for an interesting article. Have to think about that.

Shalom,

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RE: Was this the ultimate reason for the mistaken exclusion?
11/12/2009 3:03:55 PM

Quote:
Hello Jim,

Iwonder if you saw the different posts where I/we are told we should bowour heads in shame and worse then that too. One of the "unconditionallovers" called us the "vocal minority" and in a way I take that as acompliment but I fear she is mistaken since we're not so minor at leastnot according

Peter, we are not a minority based on the results of this conversation. We obviously hit a nerve that is real as the issue pointed out was. The guilty tend to shout and text the loudest. IE:

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RE: Was this the ultimate reason for the mistaken exclusion?
11/9/2009 1:57:08 PM

YOU ALL ARE UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOULD MY HEAD ON A PLATTER SUFFICE YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHO IS MAKING MUCH OF A 200$ PRIZE MONEY ??????? THE BFA OR YOU ALL !!!! SO WHO DOES IT MATTER TO MORE ?????

THINK ABOUT IT !!!!!!!!!

Never under estimate the power of a lone voice when there is truth in the words made by the sound of that voice.

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RE: Was this the ultimate reason for the mistaken exclusion?
11/12/2009 5:13:58 PM
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Quote:
Hello Jim,

Iwonder if you saw the different posts where I/we are told we should bowour heads in shame and worse then that too. One of the "unconditionallovers" called us the "vocal minority" and in a way I take that as acompliment but I fear she is mistaken since we're not so minor at leastnot according

Peter, we are not a minority based on the results of this conversation. We obviously hit a nerve that is real as the issue pointed out was. The guilty tend to shout and text the loudest. IE:

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RE: Was this the ultimate reason for the mistaken exclusion?
11/9/2009 1:57:08 PM

YOU ALL ARE UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOULD MY HEAD ON A PLATTER SUFFICE YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHO IS MAKING MUCH OF A 200$ PRIZE MONEY ??????? THE BFA OR YOU ALL !!!! SO WHO DOES IT MATTER TO MORE ?????

THINK ABOUT IT !!!!!!!!!

Never under estimate the power of a lone voice when there is truth in the words made by the sound of that voice.

YOU ALL ARE UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeh I do it again....

NOW WHAT ????

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RE: Was this the ultimate reason for the mistaken exclusion?
11/12/2009 5:20:08 PM

Why the privacy of the internet....why not come out in the open and speak up all those you claimed sent pm's and chats!!! .......why the sudden shyness to rant your displeasure. This is a free world and freedom of speech is still alive....so why the reluctance to come out?

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