Hi Linda, Heh! I read a slogan once that said: "The early bird gets the worms." Then some bright spark scrawled below it: "Yeah! But who wants worms?" In some respect that is what happens in these schemes. Sorry for not crediting you with the "flipping burgers" comment. It was a good analogy. I remembered it in the thread but because I could only view the last comment I couldn't remember who said it. But, the words are SO true. I was reserving my understanding of this scheme for later when others had made comments but you mentioned it before me... Says Linda: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Real live people. Yes, that's what she wants. So she takes a deep breath and decides to go for it. She pays $100 or $200 for the traffic and sits back with her fingers crossed praying for some sales. What she doesn't know is that for every 10 cents she pays, tons of people are getting paid a couple of pennies to click lists of urls - and she's in the list." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is like one of those pony carousels that the kids like to ride at a fair. Everybody is on the carousel - round and round and round they go - all getting nowhere. Mom and Dad wave everytime they come around. And all is fun for a few revolutions. After a while everybody, even the kids, get tired of seeing the same faces going round and round. The carousel slows then stops and all the kids have to get off. The ones making the money are the ride owners. In this particular case they are nothing more than a middle party taking advantage of both sides of the equation. In Linda's example that would be the lady with the e-book who desperately needs visitors and those who want to make money simply by surfing the net. Both sides will eventually leave the scheme still hungry. More importantly, both sides will also leave a little more disillusioned for the experience. These schemes are so clever. The broker matches two needs, feeds both a pittance then keeps the substantial balance - and both sides have been taken advantage of. ... off to find more worms... Gary Simpson

Hi Linda, Thanks for inviting me to this forum. This is a great topic. In the past, I helped work on a couple of php scripts that are now sold to webmasters looking to start their own paid to surf site. I did not work on the 4daily.com, or 12daily.com scripts. Honestly, these seem to be something close to a ponzi scheme included with an autosurf program in my opinion. Of course I wouldn't know. They could be getting advertising sales that pay off the member investments, but I am a skeptic. Here's a link to a related article: http://www.4allgood.com/article-2-4-34.html I can tell you though that the goal when creating the paid to surf scripts was to make a valuable advertising service for members and a way for the site owner to earn a little extra cash through their web site. Not the other way around. Jon

Hi Linda, I have not had time in the last few weeks to surf for cash but I still belong to http://topsurfer.com/getws.cgi?referer=aunz No longer a wholesale member. They pay you .01 cent per 35 sites viewed. I think at last look I had earned about .25c Have fun Bryan

Linda, Thank you so much for this invitation. It sounds awesome! I will check it out and review all the aspects this website has to offer. Have a blessed and successful day! Your friend, Classic Corners "Nothing is impossible when you dream" The DreamTeam http://jcollins1.fggweb.com

Hate to sound like the uninformed newbie, but what is "pay to surf"?