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Roger Macdivitt .

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Re: THE NORTHERN RENAISSENCE - HIERONYMUS BOSCH
7/4/2009 12:08:43 PM

Cheryl,

Thank you for your kind comments about my poem.

Luis is a great advocate of Art here and his love of art gave me the inspiration.

You are so right that arts are often chosen as areas where to save money. It happens on the reverse side of the problem too. It seems in  general that the arts have to wait for funding or for commercially based sponsorship to increase or cause awareness.

I am blessed in that I have my garden design work and my poetry and writing to create something new that has a little of me  and a lot of my maker in them.

I wish that more people would try to do something artistic, there are MANY that might surprise themselves.

Roger

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Re: THE NORTHERN RENAISSENCE - HIERONYMUS BOSCH
7/4/2009 12:22:50 PM
Hi Roger,

I too like your poem, I like to think so.  Really neat.

Myrna



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Roger Macdivitt .

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Re: THE NORTHERN RENAISSENCE - HIERONYMUS BOSCH
7/4/2009 4:30:57 PM

Myrna,

Thank you.

Luis is such an inspiration to me that it just came to my mind in minutes.

I enjoy writing when it flows. Sometimes it is harder. 

Here is a Native American poem that I found.

Roger

Bleeding Stones

I could see shadows
coming from his heart
and the water in his eyes
had no salt

I picked up a stone
my toes holding the earth
holding
and standing still
standing still
i picked up a stone

My eyes
were not crazy
but his heart looked brke
a place for an arrow
a place to strike
and sing about it later
standing still
I carved a feather
a feather
into that stone
and just went home alone

I left the
feather
in the stone
and just went home alone

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Luis Miguel Goitizolo

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Re: THE NORTHERN RENAISSANCE - HIERONYMUS BOSCH
7/6/2009 11:27:45 PM

Dear Branka,

Sorry for the long delay in responding to your post. Sometimes I think I would need to write an entire book to just begin to write a commentary on the various intriguing points in some of your messages. Here I will try to do it in just a few lines.

You are so right as to what Roger and I have done here. You seem to be one of the very few persons - except for perhaps Kathleen and Cheryl - who have perceived the extent of the intensity it has all had for us both. I think it is the power of El Bosco's personality, as evidenced through his artwork, which worked the miracle. I find it so difficult to explain, to either myself or anyone, the amount of thought that I have dedicated to both Roger and his poem in the last days. I told him that I considered it to be the most admirable "life statement" for anyone to ever write. I did not mention its intrinsic qualities, its crystal-like beauty like that of a Gothic cathedral, the fact that it sounds like a sort of "total poetry" to me... I did not realize either that it could actually be such a huge life statement for me as well. Would I love to write something, anything like it myself! And here is another coincidence or, better, another convergence between the two of us. Of course, I cannot in the least compare with him or his art!

The rest of your post is so profound that I am not sure I can comment on it at all within the limits that I have put myself for it. However, I will mention yet another coincidence, this one related to your choice of a favorite among Bosch paintings: the outer wings. I could not mention it on this thread as one of my own favorites too (actually my second favorite after Bosch's Saint John the Baptist in the Wilderness... or maybe all the way round) as this painting is so atypical of his general work. I mean, it could have somehow disoriented some of the visitors, even though it constitutes the perfect enclosure for The Garden of Earthly Delights. For one thing, it is so magnificently beautiful and perfect and all-encompassing in an esoteric way and, at the same time, completely atypical from the rest of Bosch's artwork. In addition, I have always considered it to be a proof of Bosch's connection with the primordial, Hyperborean tradition such as has been preserved in one piece in certain Hindu sacred texts only, but most likely transmitted at some time or another through the Norse traditions as well. The image below clearly shows this latter point.



Even though the image centers here on the Yggdrasil, the "World Ash" of the Norse mythology (actually another representation of the Tree of Life of the ancient traditions throughout the world), the connnection with Bosch's God creating the Earth is most evident. The implications are, again, too profound and numerous here as to refer to them right now, but you have pointed out at the main one: the bipolarity the human race has undergone over long and hard millennia, and from which it will hopefully be delivered as soon as the Dark Age (depicted on the right panel of The Garden) ends and the Golden Age (depicted on the left panel) is once again restored.

But I will stop here, lest the post would become too lenghty. There is still the paragraph about Jesus and Saint John the Baptist (and Luka) to consider, but I guess it may wait for tomorrow... or maybe the day after. I will only tell you that I will never think of Luka again without evoking Jesus and Saint John the Baptist at the same time.

Thank you so much for your fascinating post and the opportunity to respond to it.

Best Wishes,

Luis Miguel Goitizolo

"Choose a job you love and you will not have to work a day in your life" (Confucius)

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Re: THE NORTHERN RENAISSENCE - HIERONYMUS BOSCH
7/6/2009 11:45:03 PM

No one in this world doesn`t know to put me in this kind of delight, as you Miguel do with your writings. Whatever subject it may be ... simply, you employ all of my capacities ... giving me one incredible joy of FEELING MYSELF AS A HUMAN AND EMPLOYED :) !

You could see I lost 2 long posts written before this one posted here.

In each of them, I WROTE ABOUT THIS WONDER WALKING IN ROGER`S SHOES .

Kathleen inspires my FEMALE lucid and silly extreme points. She raises up my FENIX in one incredible way.

You inspire my divine wholeness. I am able to stretch my arms celestial-wide ... and to give and receive .... and to give and receive just ... endless and immeasurable ...

Roger .... ROGER means actually much more to me than I am able to say. Neil Sperling and Roger come somehow together, even though first is CARPETNER and second is GARDENER. I may not be in "direct" touch with Roger for a several months, but things which he always leaves at my heart ... ARE ACTUALLY so sovereign and powerfully organized micro-cosmoses.

Alike you, I must read all of this again and again and would be back.

Thank you very much.

 

 

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