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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/11/2012 6:20:36 AM
Hi Geketa & Friends,

A few days ago I read the below article and found it extremely interesting. You see we've all been "told" by the Paul himself and all his ronbots what a stellar voting record he has but the information in the below article seriously questions that.

We all know that Paul is a porker and does it with his devious strategies that have been uncovered. He insures the pork his constituency needs is entered into a bill and then votes against it knowing it will pass. When questioned about these tactics he proudly states that's how things are done in Congress. From this we know his fiscal claims are put under a severe shadow cos the spending is OK for him but not for others.

But, that's not the point of the below article. What it shows with the relevant facts to back them up is that Paul has the highest absentee voting record in Congress. While the average missed roll calls in Congress is 2.4% he's had years with over 90% missed roll calls (see below graph). From Jan 1997 to March 2012 his average stands at 12 % well above the 2.4% average and years that it was much higher.

That said is this stellar representative just passing time and is an absentee Congressman masquerading as Mr. "check my voting record" the kook Paul?

Shalom,

Peter


Apr 05, 2012 01:44 pm | Jeff Dunetz


Congressman Ron Paul has always been very concerned about wasteful government spending, that's why I was very surprised to see this chart created by Gov.track.us which examines Paul's voting record (on a quarterly basis) since 1997.

The median percentage of missed roll calls for a member of congress is 2.4%. Since New Year's Day Paul has missed 136 votes while showing up for only 15. When you look at his record, missing 91.8% of votes, that makes his Congressional salary a horrible waste of federal dollars --and that's just the start.


The top blue line above the X axis below represents the 90th percentile of missed votes. As you can see, for a large part of 2004, from mid 2006-2008 and again from 4th quarter 2010 through today, Congressman Paul has been well above the 90th percentile.




But Wait! Ron Paul is a budget guy. Some people say he is great domestically. How can it be that such a fiscal conservative allowed himself to receive all of that salary when he didn't show up for work. In fact he has practically been AWOL since the middle of 2006.

I know that he has been running for president a lot of that time, but come on, a fiscal conservative such as Congressman Paul would never shirk responsibility like that.


Obviously something has happened to Dr. Paul, maybe he as been kidnapped by the person who really wrote those racist newsletters? Perhaps he was replaced by a zombie, following exactly the orders he was given. That would even explain the strange rambling noises he made during the debates, and even the actions of some of his supporters.



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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/11/2012 6:54:20 AM
Hi Peter ,
I don't know how I missed yid's post .. now that I have composed myself from the roaring laughter, changed my clothes and wiped the lemon aide off my computer screen, I can reply. You know his district Galveston county received $14,707 per resident, topping average per capita federal spending in 46 of the 50 states in 2009. Paul earmarked some $60 million for projects in and around the city of Galveston as well in 2009. What a fiscal conservative that represents. Federal spending in Galveston County quadrupled to more than $4 billion in 2009 too .Of course while he was railing against FEMA, he was standing in line with his hand out after Katrina. When he dose vote, he votes "no" on votes that don't matter anyway because the pork is still coming because it was already "earmarked" and his excuse is , "it's the broken system of the government. I am just looking out for my constituents". Someone needs to tell his supporters while they are eating beans, potatoes and cornbread, he is lazing around at his estate eating steak , drinking fine wine and scamming how to rut more money out of their pockets.
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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/11/2012 9:08:30 AM
Hey Geketa,

Glad I gave you a good laugh before going off to sleep. You'll sleep much better now knowing that the kook Paul stands for less spending as long as it doesn't include Galveston County.

You know Jeff Dunitz from the Lid has excellent investigative reporting skills. Every time he (and others) post anything negative about Ron Paul (well it's always negative) the ronbots come outta the woodwork and bash him and them left right and center. Guess what? There were no comments at all for this article. Were the ronbots in shock? Were they silenced by the truth? Or were the facts in the article erased from their memories by edict of their guru?

What ever the reason they were no where to be found. Maybe Jeff found the formula to cause them to disappear............we should be so lucky!!!! :)

Shalom,

Peter

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Hi Peter ,
I don't know how I missed yid's post .. now that I have composed myself from the roaring laughter, changed my clothes and wiped the lemon aide off my computer screen, I can reply. You know his district Galveston county received $14,707 per resident, topping average per capita federal spending in 46 of the 50 states in 2009. Paul earmarked some $60 million for projects in and around the city of Galveston as well in 2009. What a fiscal conservative that represents. Federal spending in Galveston County quadrupled to more than $4 billion in 2009 too .Of course while he was railing against FEMA, he was standing in line with his hand out after Katrina. When he dose vote, he votes "no" on votes that don't matter anyway because the pork is still coming because it was already "earmarked" and his excuse is , "it's the broken system of the government. I am just looking out for my constituents". Someone needs to tell his supporters while they are eating beans, potatoes and cornbread, he is lazing around at his estate eating steak , drinking fine wine and scamming how to rut more money out of their pockets.
Shalom
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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/11/2012 7:26:21 PM

Hello Geketa, thanks so much for telling us about your personal experiences in this. I think most thinking people tend to give more credibility to something when they personally know the person writing about their real life adventures, although from reading some of the things you wrote, not sure you can call them adventures, some could even be deemed misadventures. :) I think you are a brave lady and I say that in all sincerity.

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Hi Peter and all here is something I wrote for you all to think about !

My case against Ron Paul , Rand Paul and their supporters

I have been a Republican since before I was old enough to vote. As a child I loved talking about government and spent hours reading about the history of the United States. I studied the Constitution trying very hard to understand every word of it. I knew within those old documents lay my freedom, and my rights as a citizen of the United States. I learned to read at age four and read fluently by age six.

During my college years I was actively involved with the young Republicans. That was in the early seventies. Being involved in politics for me was being a good citizen. I volunteered making phone calls , stuffing envelopes , putting out yard signs , canvassing for local , state and national candidates in what ever community I lived in at the time.

In 2008 I found myself unable to support John McCain as the Republican nominee. I felt he leaned too far to the left on several issues . Abortion was my biggest problem. So, I campaigned for the first time for an outsider during the primary. I did not give up my registration as a Republican, I simply helped get Dr. Alan Keyes on the ballot in Kentucky as a write in candidate. I found eight delegates and filed all the paper work so others could have a choice of a social / fiscal conservative . It was my way of protesting. Dr. Keyes got over two thousand votes in Kentucky as a write in so, I proved I was not the only one that was not thrilled with the GOP choice.

That was my first encounter what Ron Paul Supporters. Until then I simply thought of him as nothing but a libertarian Republican with some strange ideas. A harmless kook. Let's remember Paul resigned from the Republican Party in 1987 and launched a bid for the presidency running on the Libertarian Party ticket. He rejoined the Republican party when he finally figured out he could not win anything on a Libertarian ticket. Republican Americans were not buying it .

Although Paul says he is pro life in the real world he is not because he believes in states rights there fore it would be just a matter of crossing a few state lines to get an abortion if your state decided to ban abortion. That my friends is not Pro-life it is Pro-choice. When anyone points out that Ron is not pro-life you get bashed . Anything said about the messiah Ron Paul sends a stream of vile bashing toward you with a horde of comments . The bashing from those people would have made a lesser person give up. I was called names , ridiculed and threatened daily. I got hate mail and even a couple of times phone calls. Finally , he lost and the bashing stopped. I will point out here some of the things you have to take into consideration as to why Ron Paul is a danger to America and his supporters are terrorist a little later on.

Rand Paul is one of our senators from Kentucky. During his campaigned in 2010. I got another taste of the Ron Paul supporters. This time I was somewhat more prepared. The T.E.A. Party was blooming all across America and yes even here in Kentucky. People were angry ! Bailouts , jobs lost , mortgage crisis. This posed an open door for Ron to send Rand out to take a state position as Senator. Rand had worked with his dad on his campaigns since he was fourteen years old. The T.E.A. Party people were organizing here and Ron Paul sent in his people by the hundreds to brain wash the ignorant. Glen Beck was also rallying the troupes with his crazy grandstanding on the radio, thousands of people started watching him on fox news. We have had a Libertarian party here for some years, not very active but still a small voice. For our senate race we had three candidates. Rand Paul , Trey Grayson and Bill Johnson.

I supported Johnson. I was the activity director and assistant to the campaign manager. Grayson was painted by the Paul people as the establishment and Johnson was completely ignored by the press and painted as a nobody by the Paul's people. Johnson had everything a Republican could want in a candidate he was an ex Military Iraqi vet, social and fiscal conservative, Pro-life with no exceptions, marriage was between one man and one woman, smaller government , balance the budget, flat tax, cut spending, his foreign policy was much like Ronald Reagan , Supported biblical borders for Israel. He also wanted to protect social security while phasing it out to allow individuals to invest for their own retirement. He believes in personal responsibility. He also wanted an Audit of the Federal Reserve, believes education would work a lot better on a community level and wanted to rein in the EPA .

As people organized their T.E.A. Party rallies across the state Rand would make sure he was there as a speaker. He and his people co opted every rally .His speeches railed against the establishment much like the protesters of the 1960's.

Here are a few of his statements he made while campaigning for the US Senate seat .

Gitmo quotes :

Rand Paul “couldn’t agree more” with those who believe Guantanamo has “significantly damaged the reputation of the United States” and who want to “see it shut down.” – (Rand Paul official campaign web site post, posted by the site Administrator, 5/25/09)

"It's unclear whether these people are guilty or not guilty... So I really think deportation or sending them back to their country of origin might be the best way to go. And none of it’s fair, because some of them have been held years and years without trial... and you deport them to the countries where they were captured..."

Rand Paul on Gitmo prisoners on Alex Jones, 5/21/09

“I think they should mostly be sent back to their country of origin or to tell you the truth I’d drop them back off into battle … you’re unclear, drop ‘em off back into Afghanistan. It’d take them a while to get back over here.”

Rand Paul speaking in Paducah, KY, 5/8/09

The economic woes of America are cause by our war on Terror quote!

“Traditional conservatives who want the same sort of aggressive foreign policy probably cannot balance the budget… Unless you cut some of what we’re doing militarily, you cannot balance the budget - Rand Paul

"Part of the reason we've bankrupted the country is fighting so many foreign wars and having so many military bases around the world."
AntiWar Radio interview may 17, 2009

We really should roll back America’s Empire and by all means get rid of the Patriot Act
"Is rolling back the empire not the first order of business for shoring up the economy?"

"Yes I think they're interrelated, and they've become the political coalition you need to win a race basically. Because here are people on the left who acknowledge the vast expenditures of the military industrial complex, and there are people on the right who are beginning to understand that. There's a sort of left-right paradigm that you bring these groups together in order to try to win an election. I think it's coming."
AntiWar Radio interview may 17, 2009

At a T.E.A. Party meeting Rand said this :

"I know that third party candidates can’t win in KY. Although I’m a Libertarian at heart, I’ve decided to run as a Republican. Once I win I’ll be able to promote my father’s principles and work towards reforming the Republican party."

He said the same kinds of things at every T.E.A. Party gathering in Kentucky. I personally heard them because I was there with the Johnson Campaign. At many of the rallies I attended there were people from Storm Front a white supremacist group , recruiting for their cause wearing Rand Paul t shirts and stickers on their clothes. When they were asked why they supported the Paul’s they said .. “he is one of us”.

Once, I was spit on because the guy handing out the literature saw my ,"Star of David pendent hanging around my neck. I was also told if I did not shut up (because I was very vocal about Rand and Ron Paul’s libertarian politics). I would be gutted like a fish this was at a Lincoln day dinner in Boone county.

Here is a letter I received after asking to be removed from the Rand Paul mailing list its filled with Ron Paul buzz words and obvious brainwashing.

"You will be summarily removed. I sincerely hope that you realize that you are playing right into what the establishment wants you to do. They offer you up a neo-con-lite because they know you will not vote for the establishment candidate and they only wish to pull enough votes away from their true opposition (who is leading in the polls) to allow their anointed candidate (who is second in
the polls) to win, and you are helping them do just that. It is a classic political game. Your candidate will not win. He has no chance. I know how that feels because we've been there before when the average masses were still asleep, but it wasn't because of lack of widespread support (which is the problem with your candidate - he has to lend his own campaign $250,000 because he does not have a mandate from the people even though he's been at campaigning for as long as the rest of 'em).

The problem is that your candidate does not understand, nor desire to obey, the US Constitution. I have talked to him numerous times and even been in a GOOOH focus group with him. He doesn't understand the separation between State and Federal authority. He doesn't even allow questions at his events to any real degree. I have heard him speak many times. ( I am the campaign activity director) He is a very nice* person, I do not doubt that. He appears to be a "regular" guy and a moral guy. I'll give him that. All those things really don't matter if he doesn't respect the rule of law (the US Constitution) in ALL situations nor the separation of Federal and State authority that the States are accorded. (See the 9th and 10th amendments to the US Constitution.) In other words, even with all his good qualities, he lacks what we really need in these terrible times....that is a thorough knowledge of the US Constitution and the guiding principles of true American liberty, which are the only way to restore our original peace and prosperity. We need a real statesman who knows the lessons of history.
I pray that you will consider you_r support and put it towards something besides a shell of true liberty.

Blessings to you, " End of letter!

The person who wrote me this letter was about 20 years old. I was 55 and had been involved in both politics and studying the Constitution most of my life.

Tactics of the Paul crowd:

The tactics they use are much like covert operations of the left for instance. During the Rand Paul's campaign a call was sent out to bring in the troupes form out-of-state, first they pick an area to target Kentucky was the target during 08 and they move in register to vote and stay in houses and apartments during the campaigns. They hit the colleges where there are already professors teaching a lot of subversion in the class room so the students are ripe for receiving their message.

Here is an entry I did on my blog messenger of the truth about these tactics and special boot camps for the Paul supporters too much to cover here ..

http://messengerofthetruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/rand-paul-adopts-acorn-training-tactics.html

Here is another entry from my blog about the out-of-state people .. Note it says few months.

http://messengerofthetruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/rand-paul-must-have-helped-get-obama.html

Note here : To date we have another Ron Paul supporter running for Congress here in Kentucky , Thomas Massie, one of ours is retiring and he is using the same tactics in his campaign. Recently he ran an ad during the UK verses UOL basketball game , big rivals and Kentuckians are HUGH college basketball fans, in this ad it looks as if the seated congressman endorsed him. I talked to the congressman and he said ,he did not endorse Massie nor anyone else and requested the ad be removed, it was not and as far as I know as of this writing the ad is still running . He has no respect for a seated congressman in my opinion. You can view the ad here if you like : http://mycn2.com/politics/massie-s-first-ad-aired-during-uk-uofl-game-uses-geoff-davis-floor-speech-as-narration

A few other tasty things they like to do is scrub their web sites when they get called on a issue . They also have a lot of very savvy computer people who like to send out viruses to supporters of their opposition.

Then of course there is the newsletter Ron Paul wrote for ten years and he denies knowing what was in it. He got the money,he should accept responsibility. He also received money from Storm Front the militant white supremacist group and still has not given it back or denounced them in anyway. On the storm front web site there is a link to RON Pauls web site .. an of course they endorsed him for president as well here is the link ..

Storm front found said Ron Pauls veiws coincide with ours. This comes directly from his newsletters and open hatred for Israel . http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/28/stormfront-founder-ron-pauls-views-coincide-with-ours-on-most-issues/

What should be the most worrisome about this endorsement is the fact Ron Paul never disavowed this before or now. Mr. Paul said in an interview when asked about getting help from volunteers with anti-Jewish or anti-black views.

“If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” Seriously , if he were not in agreement he would be screaming at the to of his lungs .. no, no, no .. go away , I do not accept your endorsement and run them out of his campaign. Of course a true Ron Paul supporter would say differently. Probably something like, he can't help who supports him or you are a neo-con, a warmonger, blah blah blah and my favor is this : "The idea that Ron Paul is liable for the thoughts of people who support him is absurd". No, he can't be held liable for anyone's thoughts, but you're known by the company you keep so, if he don't agree with them why would he not distance himself.

Ron Paul is very much an anti-Semite for instance : He thinks Iran should be allowed nuclear capabilities: Knowing full well they plan on exterminating Israel. He wants to pull foreign aid and every time he mentions that he makes sure he mentions Israel first . He has said time and again they can take care of themselves. He has no love for Israel or the Jews.

Rand has the same kind of attitude towards Israel. Or why would he speak on the Senate floor to oppose unanimous consent of a new set of sanctions on Iran and introduced an amendment that would ensure that nothing in the act be construed as a declaration of war or an authorization of the use of force against Iran or Syria, and that any such use of force must be authorized by Congress. Neither him nor his father may come right out and say they oppose Israel but through their actions they show no love for her either. They tend to lean towards the Muslims and think we should allow them to do as they please no matter what the case may be, like saying time an again 9/11 was our fault . These two are so anti war I wonder if either Israel or America were to be attacked would they vote against a just war ? I think waiting until you see the whites of their eyes is a bad idea , given the range of missiles these days.

Ron and Rand Paul are dangerous and so are their terrorist supporters .They prey on the ignorant and the ill informed !



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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/12/2012 5:40:49 PM
Hi Peter and All ,
I believe it's really easy to refute just about anything Ron Paul and his goofy sons does or says . Ron Paul supporters are much like liberals you can shut them up with facts or at least confuse them to the point they become speechless. I am sure you all have noticed the ones that follow him also like to follow conspiracy theorist like that loon Alex Jones so, my take is they are lacking a sound mind to begin with. Be aware that the Paulbots have spread to every state in the United States and think they can take over , they want their country back which is laughable because about 90 percent of them before 08 could not have found a voting booth with a GPS system attached to their behinds. There's a lot of things that happened along that campaign trail that I did not write about in the article and I will save those for another time .
I am working on another campaign for a gentleman here that is running for congress , a good solid social / fiscal conservative Republican and yes, we also have a Paubot clone running as well .. I will keep you updated .
Shalom,
Geketa

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