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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/10/2012 1:04:14 AM

Hello Peter and friends. I guess at this point in time, seeing how none of our elected representives are willing to stand up for what is right in this country, and expose the fraud in the WH, we shouldn't be shocked when we see an article like this one from the Canada Free Press. Has the whole bunch of them gone bonkers or what? It usually takes a lot to shock me but this article did just that. :(

Consorting with the Muslim Brotherhood is wrong no matter what the political stripe

Muslim Brotherhood’s $1.5 billion Holy Week Windfall

- Judi McLeod Saturday, April 7, 2012

On the same day that Hagmann and Hagmann Report radio host and senior Canada Free Press (CFP) columnist Doug Hagmann confirmed that the Muslim Brotherhood was having their friendly little tête-à-tête with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Brotherhood left with a booty of USD 1.5 billion in foreign aid.

“Washington, April 5, Kuwait News Agency (KUNA)—The White House defended the decision to release USD 1.5 billion in foreign aid to Egypt, on Thursday, following meetings between U.S. officials and lawmakers and representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood in Washington.”

In his Wednesday CFP report, Hagmann, who described the “Origins of the Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) as having been founded in Egypt on 30 April, 2011 by the Muslim Brotherhood, “which is the ideological forefather of al Qaeda and Hamas, supporter of Sharia Law, and an advocate of terrorism against Israel and the West”, named names:

“Abdul Mawgoud Dardery, a VIP of the delegation hosted at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, is an outspoken proponent of Sharia law over democracy and openly critical of American business influences in Egypt. In the same USA Today report, Dardery complained that “American non-profit groups were working toward a type of democracy that will not bring Islamists to power, and this is wrong.”
“Also part of the delegation visiting the U.S. is Dr. Hussein El Kazzaz, and Egyptian businessman and senior advisor for the FJP economic team, Khaled Al Quazzaz, FJP Foreign Relations Coordinator, and Sondos Asem, member of FJP’s Foreign Relations Committee and senior editor at Ikhwanweb, the Muslim Brotherhood’s English language website.

Hagmann’s suspicions of the Muslim Brotherhood in Washington DC during Holy Week were right on the mark.

“We believe it is in the interest of the United States to engage with all parties in Egypt and to continue to engage with Egypt because Egypt has been an important ally of the United States and has played a significant role in the region, White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters. (KUNA). “Carney did not answer why the foreign aid was released all at once, rather than in tranches as some lawmakers had strongly lobbied for after the Egyptian government prosecuted American and international pro-democracy workers.

“However, he said the Obama administration is engaging with Egypt’s new actors “to try to work with them during this historic transformation in the post-revolution era and to try to encourage them both to pursue democracy in its fullest sense as well as pursue the kind of international obligations that they’ve maintained in the past.

“The United States gives Egypt USD 1.5 billion in military aid annually that must be spent on U.S. made weapons and goods, including M1A1 tanks and F-16 fighter jets.

“Separately, Carney acknowledged the Obama administration, including national security officials and lawmakers met with representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood, saying “Anyone who has paid any attention to the post-revolution developments in Egypt (knows) that the Muslim Brotherhood will be a major player.

“He defended the meeting in Washington as “the right thing to do” and said the White House will judge “all of the political actors in Egypt by their actions.”

With the booty horse now out of the barn, the White House likes to point out that Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain, and other US lawmakers and officials had also met with Brotherhood representatives in Egypt and elsewhere in recent months.

Consorting with the Muslim Brotherhood is wrong no matter what the political stripe.

At the time of this writing, Lucianne.com was the only major website to carry the Kuwait News Agency media release.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/10/2012 1:25:45 AM

Decide now to fire the President in November, and start now preparing to win your precinct, district, county, state, and nation

Why the President should be fired

- Henry Lamb Sunday, April 8, 2012
There are far more reasons to fire President Barack Hussein Obama than can be addressed in a single column. Here are just a few reasons that should be considered.
President Obama believes that the U.S. Constitution is flawed, and despite his oath to protect and defend it, he has consistently ignored it. Almost immediately after taking office, he assumed power not granted to him by the Constitution. He took control over the auto industry. He picked GM’s board of directors. He cancelled debt owed to bond holders and gave that money to labor unions instead. He, through his people, decided which dealerships would close and which would remain open. Most of those that were closed, not surprisingly, were owned by Republican supporters.
President Obama sent military forces to bomb Libya without even notifying Congress. No war was declared, and, and according to the War Powers Act (Section 2(c)), to use military power without Congressional approval, the nation has to be under eminent threat of attack. Libya was not about to attack the U.S. His Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, told a Congressional committee that the Obama administration would seek permission from the U.N. for military action, before informing Congress of what action was taken

Forty-three Presidents and 111 Congresses found no authority in the Constitution to force free Americans to purchase a government-specified product. Obama assumed and declared this authority in his “ObamaCare,” bill.

There is no Constitutional authority for these actions.

President Obama believes in the “One World” vision under the authority of the United Nations. From his first trips to foreign countries, he has bowed to foreign leaders and apologized for America’s accomplishments. He has accepted the U.N.‘s theory that the earth is dying because of population growth and abuse of resources. His entire energy policy is based on complying with the U.N.‘s theory that climate change is caused by carbon emissions from fossil fuel.

More than 31,000 scientists say publicly that there is no human-caused global warming, nor is it likely in the future. The U.N. theory is based on computer models that fail to reflect reality. Models predicted a two-degree rise in temperature since the industrial revolution. Reality is a temperature rise of less than one degree, which cannot be attributed to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

Obama has embraced the U.N.‘s Agenda 21 program for achieving “sustainable development” by government control of land use, and of about every other facet of human experience. When Congress refuses to enact his policies, he finds another way to prevail. Through Executive Orders, he has created special councils that engage virtually every federal agency in the implementation of the recommendations contained in Agenda 21.

Obama’s vision of the future of America is for the country to fit nicely into global governance (scroll to page 3 and read as much as you can stand) designed by the U.N., and to obey whatever decisions the international community may decide. This vision rejects American exceptionalism, free-market capitalism, property rights, and individual freedom. Obama has made great strides toward this vision during his first term. Should he be re-elected, there is nothing to slow his imposition of this vision on the nation.

This vision alone is sufficient reason to fire the President in November.

During the next four years, the President is likely to appoint two Supreme Court Justices. If Obama is President, the nation will get Justices who share Obama’s world-view. Their view will be the majority on the Supreme Court. Decisions such as the current battle over ObamaCare will automatically go against the Constitution, in favor of the Progressive vision of government control of everything.

Their decisions would guide the nation for a generation or more.

On the other hand, should Obama get fired next November, new Supreme Court Justices would be more likely to respect and support the Constitution. There is no doubt that the Progressive “One Worlders” will continue their fight to gain control of everything. Those who cherish their individual freedom, their property rights, their opportunity to go start a business, must get involved as never before. Without a doubt, the upcoming election in November is the most import election in a lifetime. The future of the United States is at stake.

Whether Obama’s opponent in the election is perfect or not is of little concern. What is important is that he is not Obama, and he will not advance Obama’s views. Tea Parties, 9/12, and property rights groups must activate their memberships and plan now to get as many people as possible to the polls. Labor unions and other Obama supporters are gearing up to win. Those who love and respect the Constitution must do the same.

This President and his administration must be fired!

Harry Reid and his majority of Senate Democrats must also be fired. Harry Reid has brought the U.S. Congress to a standstill by not allowing any Republican ideas to be considered, while twisting the rules all out of shape to ensure that Obama’s vision is enacted.

Decide now to fire the President in November, and start now preparing to win your precinct, district, county, state, and nation.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/10/2012 11:11:21 PM
Hi Peter and all here is something I wrote for you all to think about !

My case against Ron Paul , Rand Paul and their supporters

I have been a Republican since before I was old enough to vote. As a child I loved talking about government and spent hours reading about the history of the United States. I studied the Constitution trying very hard to understand every word of it. I knew within those old documents lay my freedom, and my rights as a citizen of the United States. I learned to read at age four and read fluently by age six.

During my college years I was actively involved with the young Republicans. That was in the early seventies. Being involved in politics for me was being a good citizen. I volunteered making phone calls , stuffing envelopes , putting out yard signs , canvassing for local , state and national candidates in what ever community I lived in at the time.

In 2008 I found myself unable to support John McCain as the Republican nominee. I felt he leaned too far to the left on several issues . Abortion was my biggest problem. So, I campaigned for the first time for an outsider during the primary. I did not give up my registration as a Republican, I simply helped get Dr. Alan Keyes on the ballot in Kentucky as a write in candidate. I found eight delegates and filed all the paper work so others could have a choice of a social / fiscal conservative . It was my way of protesting. Dr. Keyes got over two thousand votes in Kentucky as a write in so, I proved I was not the only one that was not thrilled with the GOP choice.

That was my first encounter what Ron Paul Supporters. Until then I simply thought of him as nothing but a libertarian Republican with some strange ideas. A harmless kook. Let's remember Paul resigned from the Republican Party in 1987 and launched a bid for the presidency running on the Libertarian Party ticket. He rejoined the Republican party when he finally figured out he could not win anything on a Libertarian ticket. Republican Americans were not buying it .

Although Paul says he is pro life in the real world he is not because he believes in states rights there fore it would be just a matter of crossing a few state lines to get an abortion if your state decided to ban abortion. That my friends is not Pro-life it is Pro-choice. When anyone points out that Ron is not pro-life you get bashed . Anything said about the messiah Ron Paul sends a stream of vile bashing toward you with a horde of comments . The bashing from those people would have made a lesser person give up. I was called names , ridiculed and threatened daily. I got hate mail and even a couple of times phone calls. Finally , he lost and the bashing stopped. I will point out here some of the things you have to take into consideration as to why Ron Paul is a danger to America and his supporters are terrorist a little later on.

Rand Paul is one of our senators from Kentucky. During his campaigned in 2010. I got another taste of the Ron Paul supporters. This time I was somewhat more prepared. The T.E.A. Party was blooming all across America and yes even here in Kentucky. People were angry ! Bailouts , jobs lost , mortgage crisis. This posed an open door for Ron to send Rand out to take a state position as Senator. Rand had worked with his dad on his campaigns since he was fourteen years old. The T.E.A. Party people were organizing here and Ron Paul sent in his people by the hundreds to brain wash the ignorant. Glen Beck was also rallying the troupes with his crazy grandstanding on the radio, thousands of people started watching him on fox news. We have had a Libertarian party here for some years, not very active but still a small voice. For our senate race we had three candidates. Rand Paul , Trey Grayson and Bill Johnson.

I supported Johnson. I was the activity director and assistant to the campaign manager. Grayson was painted by the Paul people as the establishment and Johnson was completely ignored by the press and painted as a nobody by the Paul's people. Johnson had everything a Republican could want in a candidate he was an ex Military Iraqi vet, social and fiscal conservative, Pro-life with no exceptions, marriage was between one man and one woman, smaller government , balance the budget, flat tax, cut spending, his foreign policy was much like Ronald Reagan , Supported biblical borders for Israel. He also wanted to protect social security while phasing it out to allow individuals to invest for their own retirement. He believes in personal responsibility. He also wanted an Audit of the Federal Reserve, believes education would work a lot better on a community level and wanted to rein in the EPA .

As people organized their T.E.A. Party rallies across the state Rand would make sure he was there as a speaker. He and his people co opted every rally .His speeches railed against the establishment much like the protesters of the 1960's.

Here are a few of his statements he made while campaigning for the US Senate seat .

Gitmo quotes :

Rand Paul “couldn’t agree more” with those who believe Guantanamo has “significantly damaged the reputation of the United States” and who want to “see it shut down.” – (Rand Paul official campaign web site post, posted by the site Administrator, 5/25/09)

"It's unclear whether these people are guilty or not guilty... So I really think deportation or sending them back to their country of origin might be the best way to go. And none of it’s fair, because some of them have been held years and years without trial... and you deport them to the countries where they were captured..."

Rand Paul on Gitmo prisoners on Alex Jones, 5/21/09

“I think they should mostly be sent back to their country of origin or to tell you the truth I’d drop them back off into battle … you’re unclear, drop ‘em off back into Afghanistan. It’d take them a while to get back over here.”

Rand Paul speaking in Paducah, KY, 5/8/09

The economic woes of America are cause by our war on Terror quote!

“Traditional conservatives who want the same sort of aggressive foreign policy probably cannot balance the budget… Unless you cut some of what we’re doing militarily, you cannot balance the budget - Rand Paul

"Part of the reason we've bankrupted the country is fighting so many foreign wars and having so many military bases around the world."
AntiWar Radio interview may 17, 2009

We really should roll back America’s Empire and by all means get rid of the Patriot Act
"Is rolling back the empire not the first order of business for shoring up the economy?"

"Yes I think they're interrelated, and they've become the political coalition you need to win a race basically. Because here are people on the left who acknowledge the vast expenditures of the military industrial complex, and there are people on the right who are beginning to understand that. There's a sort of left-right paradigm that you bring these groups together in order to try to win an election. I think it's coming."
AntiWar Radio interview may 17, 2009

At a T.E.A. Party meeting Rand said this :

"I know that third party candidates can’t win in KY. Although I’m a Libertarian at heart, I’ve decided to run as a Republican. Once I win I’ll be able to promote my father’s principles and work towards reforming the Republican party."

He said the same kinds of things at every T.E.A. Party gathering in Kentucky. I personally heard them because I was there with the Johnson Campaign. At many of the rallies I attended there were people from Storm Front a white supremacist group , recruiting for their cause wearing Rand Paul t shirts and stickers on their clothes. When they were asked why they supported the Paul’s they said .. “he is one of us”.

Once, I was spit on because the guy handing out the literature saw my ,"Star of David pendent hanging around my neck. I was also told if I did not shut up (because I was very vocal about Rand and Ron Paul’s libertarian politics). I would be gutted like a fish this was at a Lincoln day dinner in Boone county.

Here is a letter I received after asking to be removed from the Rand Paul mailing list its filled with Ron Paul buzz words and obvious brainwashing.

"You will be summarily removed. I sincerely hope that you realize that you are playing right into what the establishment wants you to do. They offer you up a neo-con-lite because they know you will not vote for the establishment candidate and they only wish to pull enough votes away from their true opposition (who is leading in the polls) to allow their anointed candidate (who is second in
the polls) to win, and you are helping them do just that. It is a classic political game. Your candidate will not win. He has no chance. I know how that feels because we've been there before when the average masses were still asleep, but it wasn't because of lack of widespread support (which is the problem with your candidate - he has to lend his own campaign $250,000 because he does not have a mandate from the people even though he's been at campaigning for as long as the rest of 'em).

The problem is that your candidate does not understand, nor desire to obey, the US Constitution. I have talked to him numerous times and even been in a GOOOH focus group with him. He doesn't understand the separation between State and Federal authority. He doesn't even allow questions at his events to any real degree. I have heard him speak many times. ( I am the campaign activity director) He is a very nice* person, I do not doubt that. He appears to be a "regular" guy and a moral guy. I'll give him that. All those things really don't matter if he doesn't respect the rule of law (the US Constitution) in ALL situations nor the separation of Federal and State authority that the States are accorded. (See the 9th and 10th amendments to the US Constitution.) In other words, even with all his good qualities, he lacks what we really need in these terrible times....that is a thorough knowledge of the US Constitution and the guiding principles of true American liberty, which are the only way to restore our original peace and prosperity. We need a real statesman who knows the lessons of history.
I pray that you will consider you_r support and put it towards something besides a shell of true liberty.

Blessings to you, " End of letter!

The person who wrote me this letter was about 20 years old. I was 55 and had been involved in both politics and studying the Constitution most of my life.

Tactics of the Paul crowd:

The tactics they use are much like covert operations of the left for instance. During the Rand Paul's campaign a call was sent out to bring in the troupes form out-of-state, first they pick an area to target Kentucky was the target during 08 and they move in register to vote and stay in houses and apartments during the campaigns. They hit the colleges where there are already professors teaching a lot of subversion in the class room so the students are ripe for receiving their message.

Here is an entry I did on my blog messenger of the truth about these tactics and special boot camps for the Paul supporters too much to cover here ..

http://messengerofthetruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/rand-paul-adopts-acorn-training-tactics.html

Here is another entry from my blog about the out-of-state people .. Note it says few months.

http://messengerofthetruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/rand-paul-must-have-helped-get-obama.html

Note here : To date we have another Ron Paul supporter running for Congress here in Kentucky , Thomas Massie, one of ours is retiring and he is using the same tactics in his campaign. Recently he ran an ad during the UK verses UOL basketball game , big rivals and Kentuckians are HUGH college basketball fans, in this ad it looks as if the seated congressman endorsed him. I talked to the congressman and he said ,he did not endorse Massie nor anyone else and requested the ad be removed, it was not and as far as I know as of this writing the ad is still running . He has no respect for a seated congressman in my opinion. You can view the ad here if you like : http://mycn2.com/politics/massie-s-first-ad-aired-during-uk-uofl-game-uses-geoff-davis-floor-speech-as-narration

A few other tasty things they like to do is scrub their web sites when they get called on a issue . They also have a lot of very savvy computer people who like to send out viruses to supporters of their opposition.

Then of course there is the newsletter Ron Paul wrote for ten years and he denies knowing what was in it. He got the money,he should accept responsibility. He also received money from Storm Front the militant white supremacist group and still has not given it back or denounced them in anyway. On the storm front web site there is a link to RON Pauls web site .. an of course they endorsed him for president as well here is the link ..

Storm front found said Ron Pauls veiws coincide with ours. This comes directly from his newsletters and open hatred for Israel . http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/28/stormfront-founder-ron-pauls-views-coincide-with-ours-on-most-issues/

What should be the most worrisome about this endorsement is the fact Ron Paul never disavowed this before or now. Mr. Paul said in an interview when asked about getting help from volunteers with anti-Jewish or anti-black views.

“If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” Seriously , if he were not in agreement he would be screaming at the to of his lungs .. no, no, no .. go away , I do not accept your endorsement and run them out of his campaign. Of course a true Ron Paul supporter would say differently. Probably something like, he can't help who supports him or you are a neo-con, a warmonger, blah blah blah and my favor is this : "The idea that Ron Paul is liable for the thoughts of people who support him is absurd". No, he can't be held liable for anyone's thoughts, but you're known by the company you keep so, if he don't agree with them why would he not distance himself.

Ron Paul is very much an anti-Semite for instance : He thinks Iran should be allowed nuclear capabilities: Knowing full well they plan on exterminating Israel. He wants to pull foreign aid and every time he mentions that he makes sure he mentions Israel first . He has said time and again they can take care of themselves. He has no love for Israel or the Jews.

Rand has the same kind of attitude towards Israel. Or why would he speak on the Senate floor to oppose unanimous consent of a new set of sanctions on Iran and introduced an amendment that would ensure that nothing in the act be construed as a declaration of war or an authorization of the use of force against Iran or Syria, and that any such use of force must be authorized by Congress. Neither him nor his father may come right out and say they oppose Israel but through their actions they show no love for her either. They tend to lean towards the Muslims and think we should allow them to do as they please no matter what the case may be, like saying time an again 9/11 was our fault . These two are so anti war I wonder if either Israel or America were to be attacked would they vote against a just war ? I think waiting until you see the whites of their eyes is a bad idea , given the range of missiles these days.

Ron and Rand Paul are dangerous and so are their terrorist supporters .They prey on the ignorant and the ill informed !



Hear, O Israel the L-rd our G-d,the L-rd is one http://www.DHGBoutique.com
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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/11/2012 5:02:33 AM
Hi Evelyn,

Thanks for the 2 excellent articles. There are so many reasons for B Hussein to be fired and we're gonna do just that come November.

The whole issue with the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) should come as no surprise to anybody. When B Hussein made his infamous Cairo speech he made his intentions and agenda clear then when he invited the then outlawed (in Egypt) MB to his speech and worse yet he reserved the first two rows for them. You can't get much clearer then that can you?

The plans were in the making then for the Egyptian "Arab Spring" uprising/revolution and the voices coming out of the B Hussein regime were pro MB and non stop statements to the effect that they are "moderate". Oh yeah, moderate indeed.

This is all part of B Hussein's muslim/Islamic agenda and as we can all se and are witness to it's still going full speed ahead. So, why would anyone be surprised that he's awarding the MB with $1.5 billion in aid?

It's all part of the plan and he won't be stopped unless we stop him and we will do just that this November.

Shalom,

Peter

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Hello Peter and friends. I guess at this point in time, seeing how none of our elected representatives are willing to stand up for what is right in this country, and expose the fraud in the WH, we shouldn't be shocked when we see an article like this one from the Canada Free Press. Has the whole bunch of them gone bonkers or what? It usually takes a lot to shock me but this article did just that. :(

Consorting with the Muslim Brotherhood is wrong no matter what the political stripe

Muslim Brotherhood’s $1.5 billion Holy Week Windfall

- Judi McLeod Saturday, April 7, 2012

On the same day that Hagmann and Hagmann Report radio host and senior Canada Free Press (CFP) columnist Doug Hagmann confirmed that the Muslim Brotherhood was having their friendly little tête-à-tête with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Brotherhood left with a booty of USD 1.5 billion in foreign aid.

“Washington, April 5, Kuwait News Agency (KUNA)—The White House defended the decision to release USD 1.5 billion in foreign aid to Egypt, on Thursday, following meetings between U.S. officials and lawmakers and representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood in Washington.”

In his Wednesday CFP report, Hagmann, who described the “Origins of the Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) as having been founded in Egypt on 30 April, 2011 by the Muslim Brotherhood, “which is the ideological forefather of al Qaeda and Hamas, supporter of Sharia Law, and an advocate of terrorism against Israel and the West”, named names:

“Abdul Mawgoud Dardery, a VIP of the delegation hosted at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, is an outspoken proponent of Sharia law over democracy and openly critical of American business influences in Egypt. In the same USA Today report, Dardery complained that “American non-profit groups were working toward a type of democracy that will not bring Islamists to power, and this is wrong.”
“Also part of the delegation visiting the U.S. is Dr. Hussein El Kazzaz, and Egyptian businessman and senior advisor for the FJP economic team, Khaled Al Quazzaz, FJP Foreign Relations Coordinator, and Sondos Asem, member of FJP’s Foreign Relations Committee and senior editor at Ikhwanweb, the Muslim Brotherhood’s English language website.

Hagmann’s suspicions of the Muslim Brotherhood in Washington DC during Holy Week were right on the mark.

“We believe it is in the interest of the United States to engage with all parties in Egypt and to continue to engage with Egypt because Egypt has been an important ally of the United States and has played a significant role in the region, White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters. (KUNA). “Carney did not answer why the foreign aid was released all at once, rather than in tranches as some lawmakers had strongly lobbied for after the Egyptian government prosecuted American and international pro-democracy workers.

“However, he said the Obama administration is engaging with Egypt’s new actors “to try to work with them during this historic transformation in the post-revolution era and to try to encourage them both to pursue democracy in its fullest sense as well as pursue the kind of international obligations that they’ve maintained in the past.

“The United States gives Egypt USD 1.5 billion in military aid annually that must be spent on U.S. made weapons and goods, including M1A1 tanks and F-16 fighter jets.

“Separately, Carney acknowledged the Obama administration, including national security officials and lawmakers met with representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood, saying “Anyone who has paid any attention to the post-revolution developments in Egypt (knows) that the Muslim Brotherhood will be a major player.

“He defended the meeting in Washington as “the right thing to do” and said the White House will judge “all of the political actors in Egypt by their actions.”

With the booty horse now out of the barn, the White House likes to point out that Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain, and other US lawmakers and officials had also met with Brotherhood representatives in Egypt and elsewhere in recent months.

Consorting with the Muslim Brotherhood is wrong no matter what the political stripe.

At the time of this writing, Lucianne.com was the only major website to carry the Kuwait News Agency media release.

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
4/11/2012 5:41:32 AM
Hi Geketa,

Thanks so much for your essay on your personal experiences with Ron Paul, Rand Paul and the ronbots. You know hearing your personal experiences with these people puts a more personal perspective on the facts that are available all over the net.

When you explained how Paul supporters are brought in from outside the state and they register there to be eligible to vote and then move on to other places reminded me of how the Paulians bussed in their supporters to different conventions and paid their entry fees in order to win straw polls. We all knew he was doing it and he knew we knew yet weren't the ronbots gleeful announcing a straw poll win? And if he didn't win that too was a win cos they claimed voting irregularities and discrimination. Oh yeah, poor discriminated babies.

You know, recently I saw a post where the claim was that even if Paul loses at the GOP convention he wins. I'll not go into the idiotic reasoning cause the author of this claim calls it a brilliant strategy but it's so fluking brilliant that there aren't enough plugs to plug all the holes in it. It seems that reality never hits home with the Paul camp and when some nonsense is spouted how they're gonna "win" the ronbots say AMEN.

Rand Paul is the mirror image of his father and I've been against him since I found out about him during the 2008 elections. Yet, his being a Senator in my opinion caused Ron to change his overall strategy this time around. While he never gives a yes or no answer to the question if he'll run on a third party ticket when he loses (he already lost if any of the ronbots bother to watch the primary results) his overall strategy now is to have a many delegates as possible as a power base for internal political negotiations. I'm convinced he won't run on a third party ticket cos that would adversely affect Rand in the GOP but he might be looking for the VP nomination for himself or Rand and or a position for himself within the Romney administration, or a combination of both.

The ronbots will be sorely disappointed when they discover he has no intention of running on a third party ticket. And they deserve to be disappointed after being brainwashed and follow this kook blindly.

I'll not mention the many other issues I find so disturbing with and about Ron Paul cos you covered most of them very well in your essay. Thanks again for the personal info from your on the ground political activity over many years.

Shalom,

Peter

P.S. I forgot to mention the deal between Romney and Paul not to bash each other during the campaign. Every one was targeted by both but they never seriously touched each other. Sorta makes the deal so much more transparent and obvious. Doesn't it?


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Hi Peter and all here is something I wrote for you all to think about !

My case against Ron Paul , Rand Paul and their supporters

I have been a Republican since before I was old enough to vote. As a child I loved talking about government and spent hours reading about the history of the United States. I studied the Constitution trying very hard to understand every word of it. I knew within those old documents lay my freedom, and my rights as a citizen of the United States. I learned to read at age four and read fluently by age six.

During my college years I was actively involved with the young Republicans. That was in the early seventies. Being involved in politics for me was being a good citizen. I volunteered making phone calls , stuffing envelopes , putting out yard signs , canvassing for local , state and national candidates in what ever community I lived in at the time.

In 2008 I found myself unable to support John McCain as the Republican nominee. I felt he leaned too far to the left on several issues . Abortion was my biggest problem. So, I campaigned for the first time for an outsider during the primary. I did not give up my registration as a Republican, I simply helped get Dr. Alan Keyes on the ballot in Kentucky as a write in candidate. I found eight delegates and filed all the paper work so others could have a choice of a social / fiscal conservative . It was my way of protesting. Dr. Keyes got over two thousand votes in Kentucky as a write in so, I proved I was not the only one that was not thrilled with the GOP choice.

That was my first encounter what Ron Paul Supporters. Until then I simply thought of him as nothing but a libertarian Republican with some strange ideas. A harmless kook. Let's remember Paul resigned from the Republican Party in 1987 and launched a bid for the presidency running on the Libertarian Party ticket. He rejoined the Republican party when he finally figured out he could not win anything on a Libertarian ticket. Republican Americans were not buying it .

Although Paul says he is pro life in the real world he is not because he believes in states rights there fore it would be just a matter of crossing a few state lines to get an abortion if your state decided to ban abortion. That my friends is not Pro-life it is Pro-choice. When anyone points out that Ron is not pro-life you get bashed . Anything said about the messiah Ron Paul sends a stream of vile bashing toward you with a horde of comments . The bashing from those people would have made a lesser person give up. I was called names , ridiculed and threatened daily. I got hate mail and even a couple of times phone calls. Finally , he lost and the bashing stopped. I will point out here some of the things you have to take into consideration as to why Ron Paul is a danger to America and his supporters are terrorist a little later on.

Rand Paul is one of our senators from Kentucky. During his campaigned in 2010. I got another taste of the Ron Paul supporters. This time I was somewhat more prepared. The T.E.A. Party was blooming all across America and yes even here in Kentucky. People were angry ! Bailouts , jobs lost , mortgage crisis. This posed an open door for Ron to send Rand out to take a state position as Senator. Rand had worked with his dad on his campaigns since he was fourteen years old. The T.E.A. Party people were organizing here and Ron Paul sent in his people by the hundreds to brain wash the ignorant. Glen Beck was also rallying the troupes with his crazy grandstanding on the radio, thousands of people started watching him on fox news. We have had a Libertarian party here for some years, not very active but still a small voice. For our senate race we had three candidates. Rand Paul , Trey Grayson and Bill Johnson.

I supported Johnson. I was the activity director and assistant to the campaign manager. Grayson was painted by the Paul people as the establishment and Johnson was completely ignored by the press and painted as a nobody by the Paul's people. Johnson had everything a Republican could want in a candidate he was an ex Military Iraqi vet, social and fiscal conservative, Pro-life with no exceptions, marriage was between one man and one woman, smaller government , balance the budget, flat tax, cut spending, his foreign policy was much like Ronald Reagan , Supported biblical borders for Israel. He also wanted to protect social security while phasing it out to allow individuals to invest for their own retirement. He believes in personal responsibility. He also wanted an Audit of the Federal Reserve, believes education would work a lot better on a community level and wanted to rein in the EPA .

As people organized their T.E.A. Party rallies across the state Rand would make sure he was there as a speaker. He and his people co opted every rally .His speeches railed against the establishment much like the protesters of the 1960's.

Here are a few of his statements he made while campaigning for the US Senate seat .

Gitmo quotes :

Rand Paul “couldn’t agree more” with those who believe Guantanamo has “significantly damaged the reputation of the United States” and who want to “see it shut down.” – (Rand Paul official campaign web site post, posted by the site Administrator, 5/25/09)

"It's unclear whether these people are guilty or not guilty... So I really think deportation or sending them back to their country of origin might be the best way to go. And none of it’s fair, because some of them have been held years and years without trial... and you deport them to the countries where they were captured..."

Rand Paul on Gitmo prisoners on Alex Jones, 5/21/09

“I think they should mostly be sent back to their country of origin or to tell you the truth I’d drop them back off into battle … you’re unclear, drop ‘em off back into Afghanistan. It’d take them a while to get back over here.”

Rand Paul speaking in Paducah, KY, 5/8/09

The economic woes of America are cause by our war on Terror quote!

“Traditional conservatives who want the same sort of aggressive foreign policy probably cannot balance the budget… Unless you cut some of what we’re doing militarily, you cannot balance the budget - Rand Paul

"Part of the reason we've bankrupted the country is fighting so many foreign wars and having so many military bases around the world."
AntiWar Radio interview may 17, 2009

We really should roll back America’s Empire and by all means get rid of the Patriot Act
"Is rolling back the empire not the first order of business for shoring up the economy?"

"Yes I think they're interrelated, and they've become the political coalition you need to win a race basically. Because here are people on the left who acknowledge the vast expenditures of the military industrial complex, and there are people on the right who are beginning to understand that. There's a sort of left-right paradigm that you bring these groups together in order to try to win an election. I think it's coming."
AntiWar Radio interview may 17, 2009

At a T.E.A. Party meeting Rand said this :

"I know that third party candidates can’t win in KY. Although I’m a Libertarian at heart, I’ve decided to run as a Republican. Once I win I’ll be able to promote my father’s principles and work towards reforming the Republican party."

He said the same kinds of things at every T.E.A. Party gathering in Kentucky. I personally heard them because I was there with the Johnson Campaign. At many of the rallies I attended there were people from Storm Front a white supremacist group , recruiting for their cause wearing Rand Paul t shirts and stickers on their clothes. When they were asked why they supported the Paul’s they said .. “he is one of us”.

Once, I was spit on because the guy handing out the literature saw my ,"Star of David pendent hanging around my neck. I was also told if I did not shut up (because I was very vocal about Rand and Ron Paul’s libertarian politics). I would be gutted like a fish this was at a Lincoln day dinner in Boone county.

Here is a letter I received after asking to be removed from the Rand Paul mailing list its filled with Ron Paul buzz words and obvious brainwashing.

"You will be summarily removed. I sincerely hope that you realize that you are playing right into what the establishment wants you to do. They offer you up a neo-con-lite because they know you will not vote for the establishment candidate and they only wish to pull enough votes away from their true opposition (who is leading in the polls) to allow their anointed candidate (who is second in
the polls) to win, and you are helping them do just that. It is a classic political game. Your candidate will not win. He has no chance. I know how that feels because we've been there before when the average masses were still asleep, but it wasn't because of lack of widespread support (which is the problem with your candidate - he has to lend his own campaign $250,000 because he does not have a mandate from the people even though he's been at campaigning for as long as the rest of 'em).

The problem is that your candidate does not understand, nor desire to obey, the US Constitution. I have talked to him numerous times and even been in a GOOOH focus group with him. He doesn't understand the separation between State and Federal authority. He doesn't even allow questions at his events to any real degree. I have heard him speak many times. ( I am the campaign activity director) He is a very nice* person, I do not doubt that. He appears to be a "regular" guy and a moral guy. I'll give him that. All those things really don't matter if he doesn't respect the rule of law (the US Constitution) in ALL situations nor the separation of Federal and State authority that the States are accorded. (See the 9th and 10th amendments to the US Constitution.) In other words, even with all his good qualities, he lacks what we really need in these terrible times....that is a thorough knowledge of the US Constitution and the guiding principles of true American liberty, which are the only way to restore our original peace and prosperity. We need a real statesman who knows the lessons of history.
I pray that you will consider you_r support and put it towards something besides a shell of true liberty.

Blessings to you, " End of letter!

The person who wrote me this letter was about 20 years old. I was 55 and had been involved in both politics and studying the Constitution most of my life.

Tactics of the Paul crowd:

The tactics they use are much like covert operations of the left for instance. During the Rand Paul's campaign a call was sent out to bring in the troupes form out-of-state, first they pick an area to target Kentucky was the target during 08 and they move in register to vote and stay in houses and apartments during the campaigns. They hit the colleges where there are already professors teaching a lot of subversion in the class room so the students are ripe for receiving their message.

Here is an entry I did on my blog messenger of the truth about these tactics and special boot camps for the Paul supporters too much to cover here ..

http://messengerofthetruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/rand-paul-adopts-acorn-training-tactics.html

Here is another entry from my blog about the out-of-state people .. Note it says few months.

http://messengerofthetruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/rand-paul-must-have-helped-get-obama.html

Note here : To date we have another Ron Paul supporter running for Congress here in Kentucky , Thomas Massie, one of ours is retiring and he is using the same tactics in his campaign. Recently he ran an ad during the UK verses UOL basketball game , big rivals and Kentuckians are HUGH college basketball fans, in this ad it looks as if the seated congressman endorsed him. I talked to the congressman and he said ,he did not endorse Massie nor anyone else and requested the ad be removed, it was not and as far as I know as of this writing the ad is still running . He has no respect for a seated congressman in my opinion. You can view the ad here if you like : http://mycn2.com/politics/massie-s-first-ad-aired-during-uk-uofl-game-uses-geoff-davis-floor-speech-as-narration

A few other tasty things they like to do is scrub their web sites when they get called on a issue . They also have a lot of very savvy computer people who like to send out viruses to supporters of their opposition.

Then of course there is the newsletter Ron Paul wrote for ten years and he denies knowing what was in it. He got the money,he should accept responsibility. He also received money from Storm Front the militant white supremacist group and still has not given it back or denounced them in anyway. On the storm front web site there is a link to RON Pauls web site .. an of course they endorsed him for president as well here is the link ..

Storm front found said Ron Pauls veiws coincide with ours. This comes directly from his newsletters and open hatred for Israel . http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/28/stormfront-founder-ron-pauls-views-coincide-with-ours-on-most-issues/

What should be the most worrisome about this endorsement is the fact Ron Paul never disavowed this before or now. Mr. Paul said in an interview when asked about getting help from volunteers with anti-Jewish or anti-black views.

“If they want to endorse me, they’re endorsing what I do or say — it has nothing to do with endorsing what they say,” Seriously , if he were not in agreement he would be screaming at the to of his lungs .. no, no, no .. go away , I do not accept your endorsement and run them out of his campaign. Of course a true Ron Paul supporter would say differently. Probably something like, he can't help who supports him or you are a neo-con, a warmonger, blah blah blah and my favor is this : "The idea that Ron Paul is liable for the thoughts of people who support him is absurd". No, he can't be held liable for anyone's thoughts, but you're known by the company you keep so, if he don't agree with them why would he not distance himself.

Ron Paul is very much an anti-Semite for instance : He thinks Iran should be allowed nuclear capabilities: Knowing full well they plan on exterminating Israel. He wants to pull foreign aid and every time he mentions that he makes sure he mentions Israel first . He has said time and again they can take care of themselves. He has no love for Israel or the Jews.

Rand has the same kind of attitude towards Israel. Or why would he speak on the Senate floor to oppose unanimous consent of a new set of sanctions on Iran and introduced an amendment that would ensure that nothing in the act be construed as a declaration of war or an authorization of the use of force against Iran or Syria, and that any such use of force must be authorized by Congress. Neither him nor his father may come right out and say they oppose Israel but through their actions they show no love for her either. They tend to lean towards the Muslims and think we should allow them to do as they please no matter what the case may be, like saying time an again 9/11 was our fault . These two are so anti war I wonder if either Israel or America were to be attacked would they vote against a just war ? I think waiting until you see the whites of their eyes is a bad idea , given the range of missiles these days.

Ron and Rand Paul are dangerous and so are their terrorist supporters .They prey on the ignorant and the ill informed !



Peter Fogel
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