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Re: Gun Controll For Suckers
4/21/2009 10:41:23 AM

Hello St. Nick

   As always, it is good to see you. You thank me for the comment and you are most welcome. There is another comment that I am going to make that might not set as well on your heart though. It is a comment about gun laws in Canada and what has happened to the crime rate since their inception. If insanity were the objective, it would be well served by the bureaucrats that write these laws.

NEWS RELEASE

Citizens Committee for the
Right to Keep and Bear Arms
12500 N.E. Tenth Place
Bellevue, WA  98005

CANADA'S GUN REGISTRATION FAILURE: VIOLENT CRIME RATE DOUBLE THAT OF U.S.

For Immediate Release: January 17, 2006

BELLEVUE, WA – Canada's billion-dollar boondoggle – the national gun registration scheme – has proven itself an abysmal failure, as that country's violent crime rates are double those reported in the United States, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) noted today.

"We looked at violent crime rates per 100,000 population in both countries, using the most recent available data," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, "and we were not surprised at what we found. Since Canada started this ridiculous and costly program, violent crime has gone up dramatically, at the same time that crime in the United States has declined. Yet, there are people in the states who think Canada's gun legislation should be the model for America.

"By comparing the data," he detailed, "we found that the violent crime rate in the United States was 475 per 100,000 population, while up north, there were 963 violent crimes per 100,000 population. The figure for sexual assault in Canada per 100,000 population is more than double that of the United States, 74 as opposed to 32.1, and the assault rate in Canada is also more than twice that of the states, 746 to our 295 for the population rate."

Noted CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron: "What happened in the states to actually contribute to a reduction in our overall crime rate is simple. We've got 38 states with shall-issue, right-to-carry concealed handgun laws. While Canada has clamped down on its citizens' gun rights, our citizens have been empowered against criminals by passage of these laws. The disparity in crime rates between the two countries says it all about how well gun registration works to stop crime, as opposed to actually carrying guns to deter criminals, and fight back if necessary."

A Jan. 3 story in Canada's National Post by writer David Frum confirmed CCRKBA's independent finding. Frum wrote, "Canada's overall crime rate is now 50% higher than the crime rate in the United States." Later, Frum added: "Gun registries and gun bans…do not work."

"Instead of promising to ban legally-owned handguns in Canada," Waldron observed, "Prime Minister Paul Martin should be urging citizens to arm themselves. He should encourage Parliament to scrap gun registration and replace it with a gun ownership and training program."

"Since going on the warpath against guns, Canada's Liberals have presided over the sharpest rise in violent crime in the nation's history," Gottlieb said. "There are more rapes, more robberies and more murders. If that tells Canadian citizens anything at all, it's that Paul Martin and his Liberals have literally been ‘dead wrong' on guns."

With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States. The Citizens Committee can be reached by phone at (425) 454-4911, on the internet at www.ccrkba.org or by email to InformationRequest@ccrkba.org
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Re: Gun Controll For Suckers
6/5/2009 1:49:53 PM

Obama Stacks Supreme Court

Senate Bans Gun Sales

 

Failing to get traction for his anti-gun agenda in Congress, Barack Obama is trying instead to stack the federal courts with liberal anti-gunners while an anti-gun Senate pushes through the nomination.

 

"President Obama's gun prohibitionist agenda has fallen on deaf ears on Capitol Hill," said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb.

 

"But now he is picking judicial nominees that will almost certainly legislate from the bench," he continued. "Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor has already ruled that the Second Amendment does not apply to the states. We've learned that Sotomayor's nomination is supported by ACORN, the publicly-funded anti-gun group that supported a Jersey City gun control ordinance that was struck down by the court.

 

 Select Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators

 

Even the president once worked with the anti-gun rights ACORN as a leadership trainer.   "Seventy years ago, President Franklin D. Roosevelt tried to stack the Supreme Court to push his social agenda, and he failed," Gottlieb recalled. "President Obama tried to use his cabinet to rally support for a gun ban renewal and he failed, so now he's planning to stack the courts with anti-gun ACORN nominees.

 

" America has had enough Left-wing judicial activism from the federal bench," he concluded. "In Judge Sotomayor's own words, 'I don't believe we should bend the Constitution under any circumstances. It says what it says. We should do honor to it.' That includes honoring the Second Amendment. It does not include manipulating the courts to accomplish from the bench what cannot be achieved through Congress."

 

Lautenberg Pushes Senate Fight to Ban Gun Sales

 

Sens. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Jack Reed (D-RI) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) have joined Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and victims and family members of the Virginia Tech tragedy, to introduce legislation to eliminate the private transfers of firearms and close the nation's "gun show loophole."

 

The Senate bill is in the Judiciary Committee, chaired by liberal Democrat Leahy, anti-gun- yet not willing to take on the second amendment issue and not likely, to give the bill a hearing.  The House Judiciary Committee is chaired by liberal Democrat Conyers and might stand a chance of consideration as Conyers is anti-gun and will support this bill.

 

What is more likely, however, is that Lautenberg will offer the legislation as an amendment to a different bill as he did in 1999, when Lautenberg successfully passed legislation identical to this bill as an amendment to a juvenile justice bill.

 

The White House has clearly made a political decision at this time not to push for closing the gun show loophole or the assault weapons ban -- both of which it clearly supports and would gladly sign into law.

 

SUPPORT PRIVATE GUN SALES? YOU MUST BE IRRATIONAL
"There is no rational reason to oppose closing the loophole. The reason it's still not closed is simple: the continuing power of the special interest gun lobby in Washington" Sen. Lautenberg said ignoring the Constitution.
Select Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators

Lautenberg went on to add still more to the "90% Obama Mexican Gun Lie":
"Thirty percent of the guns that go to Mexico are bought at gun shows." With NO supporting evidence Lautenberg continued, "We don't know whether they're bought from unlicensed dealers, but logic would say let's have some idea who it is that bought those guns and what their intentions might be."
Lautenberg and the Gun Grabbers in the Senate are also lying about the Virginia Tech gunman who had a background check at a legal gun store to justify themselves. There were abundant warning signs that he posed a serious threat to the campus. Yet he was running loose because the gun check system failed.

NO SUCH THING AS 'GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE'

Independence Institute researcher David Kopel has written about the "gun show loophole," concluding that it is a myth: Says Kopel:
"Despite what some media commentators have claimed, If a dealer sells a gun from a storefront, from a room in his home or from a table at a gun show, the rules are exactly the same: he can get authorization from the FBI for the sale only after the FBI runs its "instant" background check"
CRIME GUNS DO NOT COME FROM GUN SHOWS

The Bureau of Justice Statistics report entitled "Firearms Use by Offenders" found that less than one percent - 0.7%, to be exact - of guns used in crimes originated at gun shows.

NICS: DEFACTO GUN REGISTRATION

New York (D) Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand proposed computerized background checks be retained creating a de facto gun registration system and Lautenberg's Bill proposes private transactions be added to this registration system.

LAUTENBERG'S MOTIVES

Motives for eliminating gun shows are twofold:

First, gun shows are a powerful tool in defeating gun control legislation.

Second, eradicate the gun show and gun culture altogether.

All that seems to be on the minds of the Anti-Gun Senators and at the offices of gun control extremists is figuring out how to exploit tragedy to erode and eventually destroy the right, and the means, of self-defense.

Select Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators

Now the Anti-Gun Coalitions are trying to use tragic events to destroy gun shows and the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms to protect themselves under the law. They are attacking and hiding behind an Anti-Terrorist Agenda while getting political and financial support from:

George Soros a Hungarian-born billionaire bank rolling efforts with his check book and spending more that $100 million to destroy the Constitution.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) admitted that "guns would be banned and confiscated" if she could have her way.

The United Nations actively pushes globalism seeking to disarm all Americans.

We must Stop the Anti-Gun Coalition and get ready for the biggest gun control fight of the year from coast to coast. We can not do that without your support.

Stand up against this attack! Stand up for the right to not only defend yourself, but to defend your family, your children, your friends, and your classmates!

Select Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators

Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat this bill, slap it down hard.

The legislation is cosponsored by Sens. Dick Durbin (D-IL), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Charles Schumer (D-NY), John Kerry (D-MA), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Carl Levin (D-MI), Ben Cardin (D-MD) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) and Robert Menendez (D-NJ).

In order to stop Schumer, Kerry and Kennedy and there fellow gun-grabbers-we need to let the Congress know with thousands of faxes telling them to leave guns alone.

Americans like you who understand what our Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation...and who are willing to fight to defend our Constitution and for what it stands.

So please, help the Citizens Committee and me defeat those who wish to gut and trash the United States Constitution.

Help me flood the U.S. Senate with a sea of FAXES big enough to drown each and every Senator willing to vote away the Second Amendment.

Please, send your Donation and FAX TODAY!

Select Here to Reject All Gun Bans and Fax All 99 Senators

Keep calling your Senators today, toll free numbers include 1-877 -851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call toll 1-202-225-3121 AND REGISTER YOU'RE OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to take guns away!

CALL PRESIDENT Obama, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS.

DO NOT BE SILENCED - MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

NOTE: We need TENS OF THOUSANDS of faxes and PHONE CALLS and EMAILS delivered to ALL Senators right away!

For our projects to be successful, we must count on the voluntary financial support from individuals like you who care.

Your contribution of $20 or $25 is urgently needed today.

Your donation for just $10 will help so much. If you can afford to send $50 or $100 or more it would truly be a godsend.

Remember, protecting our freedom is not inexpensive.

But then, it's impossible to put a price tag on freedom.

SELECT HERE to DONATE NOW.
The rights you save may be your own!


Together, we can preserve the Constitutional rights our Founding Fathers intended our people to have forever.

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Please let me know your decision right away. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Alan Gottlieb
Chairman
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

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With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States. The Citizens Committee can be reached by phone at (425) 454-4911, on the Internet at ccrkba.org or by email to InformationRequest@ccrkba.org

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Re: Gun Controll For Suckers
6/27/2009 12:26:39 PM

Greetings All

   weather you like guns or not. Weather you own a gun or not. there is a trend in America that is going on right now. that trend is to take away our civil liberties and constitutional rights. Obama is no newcomer to this movement and his attourney general has always been an outspoken advocate for anti gun laws.

    This is another assault on the constitution,,,plain and simple. No country that has ever enforced a gun ban has shown any benefit from it. Crime goes up,,, not down. The only difference is that innocent people lose their ability to protect themselves from gun weilding criminals. that is a fact. Check it out for your self

 

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BARACK OBAMA AND CONGRESS PUSHING
THROUGH BANS ON GUNS AND GUN SHOWS!

The Second Amendment is under assault as never before -- and the "anti-gun" forces could win this time...

Unless YOU AND I take action NOW to stop them!

TELL CONGRESS TO REJECT
ALL BANS ON GUNS AND GUN SHOWS:
SEND YOUR FAXES NOW!

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama deliberately and repeatedly LIED to America's 90 million gun owners across the country, when he insisted that he would NOT try to take away anyone's firearms.

Now, Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder is saying that the president will seek to reinstate the ban on semi-automatic firearms -- which means he KNEW he was lying to the nation, because his own website touted his plan to revive the gun ban and make it permanent!

We warned America that Obama's "support" for the Second Amendment was empty rhetoric -- and now Holder's disclosure has confirmed it. Obama was lying, and now gun rights may be dying.

Several times on the campaign trail, Obama told voters, "I'm not going to take your guns away." He said it at rallies in Duryea, Pennsylvania, and in Boise, Idaho. He also told a news conference that "Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear... I think people can take me at my word."

One thing is now obvious: We shouldn't take Obama's word, even if he says it rains a lot in Seattle. Apparently, law-abiding gun owners have nothing to fear... UNLESS they own sport-utility rifles, semiautomatic shotguns, handguns and any other firearm that Obama and his anti-gun Attorney General don't like.

Thanks to Eric Holder -- who has been far more honest than his boss about his anti-gun philosophy -- it is now clear that the new president doesn't support the Second Amendment at all. American gun owners should remind Democrats in Congress that the Second Amendment means what it says, especially when the president doesn't.

TELL CONGRESS TO REJECT
ALL BANS ON GUNS AND GUN SHOWS:
SEND YOUR FAXES NOW!

It doesn't stop there! Senators Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), Jack Reed (D-RI) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) have joined Paul Helmke, President of the "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence," along with victims and family members of the Virginia Tech tragedy, to introduce legislation to ELIMINATE the private transfers of firearms and close the nation's "gun show loophole."

You read that right. Did you know that YOU are considered "irrational" if you support private gun sales? Sen. Lautenberg says so!
"There is no rational reason to oppose closing the loophole. The reason it's still not closed is simple: the continuing power of the special interest gun lobby in Washington."
BUT, not only are YOU irrational for supporting private gun sales -- they also must think you're an IDIOT because, with NO supporting evidence, Lautenberg fell back to the disproven old "90% Obama Mexican Gun" Lie:
"Thirty percent of the guns that go to Mexico are bought at gun shows. We don't know whether they're bought from unlicensed dealers, but logic would say let's have some idea who it is that bought those guns and what their intentions might be."
Independence Institute researcher David Kopel has written about the so-called "gun show loophole," concluding that it is a myth:
"Despite what some media commentators have claimed, if a dealer sells a gun from a storefront, from a room in his home or from a table at a gun show, the rules are exactly the same: he can get authorization from the FBI for the sale only after the FBI runs its 'instant' background check."
Even the Bureau of Justice Statistics report entitled "Firearms Use by Offenders" found that less than one percent -- 0.7%, to be exact -- of guns used in crimes originated at gun shows.

None of this matters to the Gun Grabbers -- New York's Democrat Senators Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand have now proposed that computerized background checks be retained, creating a de facto gun registration system; and Lautenberg's bill proposes private transactions be added to this registration system!

This is an OUTRAGEOUS violation of the Second Amendment!

TELL CONGRESS TO REJECT
ALL BANS ON GUNS AND GUN SHOWS:
SEND YOUR FAXES NOW!

Why are Obama, Lautenberg, and other liberals in Congress doing this?

Motives for eliminating gun shows are twofold:

First, gun shows are a powerful tool in defeating gun control legislation. Grassroots activism burns like a brushfire when Second Amendment supporters gather in one place!

Second, If you can eradicate the gun show, you are a HUGE step closer to eradicating the pro-gun culture altogether.

Lautenberg and the Gun Grabbers in the Senate are also lying about the Virginia Tech gunman who had a background check at a legal gun store, just so they can try to justify themselves. There were abundant warning signs that he posed a serious threat to the campus. Yet he was running loose because the gun check system failed.

It's obvious that the Anti-Gun Coalitions are trying to use tragic events to destroy gun shows and the right of all Americans to keep and bear arms to protect themselves under the law. They are attacking and hiding behind an "Anti-Terrorist" Agenda while getting political and financial support from:
  • George Soros, a Hungarian-born billionaire who is bank rolling efforts with his checkbook and spending more that $100 million to destroy the Constitution.

  • Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA), who admitted that "guns would be banned and confiscated" if she could have her way.

  • The United Nations, which actively pushes globalism seeking to disarm all Americans.
We must Stop the Anti-Gun Coalition and get ready for the biggest gun control fight of the year from coast to coast. We can not do that without your support.

TELL CONGRESS TO REJECT
ALL BANS ON GUNS AND GUN SHOWS:
SEND YOUR FAXES NOW!

All that seems to be on the minds of the Anti-Gun Senators and at the offices of gun control extremists is figuring out how to exploit tragedy to erode and eventually destroy the right, and the means, of self-defense.

Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat these attempts by Obama and his followers -- we must slap these bills down hard.

Sens. Dick Durbin (D-IL), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Charles Schumer (D-NY), John Kerry (D-MA), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Carl Levin (D-MI), Ben Cardin (D-MD) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) and Robert Menendez (D-NJ) cosponsor the current Senate legislation. And Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is working to make sure that all of the anti-gun legislation passes over on the House of Representatives side.

In order to stop Schumer, Kerry and Kennedy and their fellow gun-grabbers, we need to let Congress know with tens of thousands of faxes telling them to leave guns alone.

We need Americans like YOU who understand what our Founding Fathers envisioned for our nation... and who are willing to fight to defend our Constitution and for what it stands.

So please, help the Citizens Committee defeat those who wish to gut and trash the United States Constitution.

Help us flood the U.S. Congress with a sea of FAXES big enough to drown each and every Congressman willing to vote away the Second Amendment. Please, CLICK HERE NOW to send Blast Faxes to EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS, telling them to REJECT all bans on guns and gun shows TODAY!

Sincerely,

Alan Gottlieb, Chairman
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

P.S. Keep calling your Senators today, toll free numbers include 1-877-851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call the regular number at 1-202-225-3121 AND REGISTER YOUR OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to take guns away!

CALL President Obama, 1-202-456-1111 and 1-202-456-1414, expressing your disdain and ABSOLUTE REJECTION of all GUN BANS.

DO NOT BE SILENCED - MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!

NOTE: We need TENS OF THOUSANDS of faxes and PHONE CALLS and EMAILS delivered to ALL Senators right away!

For our projects to be successful, we also must count on the voluntary financial support from individuals like you who care.

Your contribution of $20 or $25 is urgently needed today.

Your donation for just $10 will help so much. If you can afford to send $50 or $100 or more it would truly be a godsend.

Remember, protecting our freedom is not inexpensive.

But then again, it's impossible to put a price tag on freedom.

PLEASE MAKE YOUR BEST CONTRIBUTION NOW:
DONATE ONLINE!

Together, we can preserve the Constitutional rights our Founding Fathers intended our people to have forever.

If you prefer to donate by check, please mail to:
The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
12500 NE Tenth Place
Dept Code 2625
Bellevue, Washington 98005

Help us flood the U.S. Congress with a sea of FAXES big enough to drown each and every Congressman willing to vote away the Second Amendment. Please send YOUR Blast Faxes to EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS, telling them to REJECT all bans on guns and gun shows TODAY!

TELL CONGRESS TO REJECT
ALL BANS ON GUNS AND GUN SHOWS:
SEND YOUR FAXES NOW!

With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States. The Citizens Committee can be reached by phone at (425) 454-4911, on the Internet or by email to InformationRequest@ccrkba.org
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Re: Gun Controll For Suckers
6/27/2009 3:03:52 PM

Hello Billy V,

I'm a redneck MoFo from way back and I will not support anything that will take our right to bear arms away.

Keep up the great work....

 

Take care,

Jo

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Re: Gun Controll For Suckers
6/30/2009 4:38:25 PM
Hello Jo Sorry about not responding to you sooner. I don;t get notifications to this forum so I just kinda forgot about it. Hey, I'm with you Jo. Like I have always believed,,,guns don't kill,,,,,,people do. we need to work on the attitudes of people to stop the crime and we need to work on the attitudes of the politicians who want to interfere with our ability to defend ourselves and our families. I don't have any guns ( registered ) so this really doesn't pertain to me but i will stand beside anyone who believes that it is our right to bear arms. Too many of our rights have been stripped away and we have to protect what is left with everything we have. Including our guns. Sincerely, Billdaddy
May a smile follow you to sleep each night and,,,,,be there waiting,,,,,when you awaken http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/8212/ShowForum.aspx Sincerely, Billdaddy
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