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Judy Smith

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Re: Georgios VS JoAnne
2/16/2009 8:38:48 AM

Hello, my friend.

Georgios, first and foremost I do not agree with this post and this forum.  It is negative, negative negative and will serve NO PURPOSE!!!!  I do not believe in threats and that is what you are doing here.  The only reason I am here at all is to support you as a friend.

Unlike some of my good friends here, I did vote.

I truly do not think you are an e-bank scammer, and I voted that way in the poll. I am a very trusting person and like to think that everyone is a fair player and has honesty and integrity.  My gut usually tells me when I am wrong.  I don't think I am with you!  You have never treated me with anything but the utmost of respect and kindness and I have always trusted you.  I do think JoAnne overstepped her bounds, and I have no further comment on that.

You want the opinion and suggestions from your friends, and I hope you consider me a friend because I think you should delete this thread entirely and forget this negativity.  Drop the issue.  Let it die.  I know you to be a good and kind person, and based on the other posts here, I am not alone. 

Be well my friend, and please do not fret.  If you are innocent, then you have nothing to fear, and you should move forward instead of dwelling on something that is over and done with. 

God bless!

Judy 

 

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Re: Georgios VS JoAnne
2/17/2009 8:53:19 AM

To Helen Elias, Mary Evelyn Simpson, Geketa I want to tell this:
Do not be so enthusiastic when a friend of yours is doing something you don't know or do not have control of and do not give replies afterwards to persons who have not referred to you who say they will not come back to give more replies in a certain forum. That is a sort of provocation.

 

Georgios,

 

You are the one that started this by "your own" comments saying in JoAnne's thread the following statement to another member of Adlandpro.

 

Now about pointing out a person. I used your name and that is to point out somebody. You say: I did not use any names. The result is same: My example to you. In a thread I have all information about all your e-banking cards (they may be empty lol) and I have there also usernames and passwords. I do not tell who the owners is but somewhere in a forum I write go to LINK X there are lots of money to get. Of course if the see your e-cards they have your name and if there is a picture identified. I did not use any name but I gave the information where to. Be sure all your e-banking accounts would be empty in few seconds and the all the visitors would know who you are. So that is not an argument for not pointing out a person.”

 

 

I can assure you I knew exactly what was going on or I would not have posted my reply. JoAnne and I are VERY VERY Good friends and will remain so.

 

 I never called any one by name when I posted so you must have assumed I was referring to you . Do you have a guilty conscience?

 

I did say in one post that I hoped criminals would be prosecuted and if you are NOT one than you have nothing to fear.I also posted about the “feel good crowd” and as long as one agrees with them you are their friend but if you don’t than you are some kind of evil wicked person. I also made a few statements about the truth being in the eye of the beholder. NO ONE Was Named by name.

 

 I will be enthusiastic about supporting my friends when ever and where ever I so choose to do so. It is you that is provocative or provoking by naming me in this thread are you not. If you do not want a fight than kindly  do not start one.


Geketa

 

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Re: Georgios VS JoAnne
2/17/2009 9:26:53 AM

Hello Georgios,

 

Before getting into anything I want to state a few things:

 

  1. I voted;
  2. I don’t know whether you are a scammer or not – but you surely ARE an impulsive and out of the blue actor.
  3. YOU DIDN’T REPORTED JoAnne’s Forum in my opinion
  4. I didn’t reported you anywhere
  5. Despite of all said above I voted #1; WHY? BECOUSE THE WAY YOU HAVE WRITTEN THIS ENTIRE POST AND PUT UP THE POLL; THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR! THAN WHY NOT?! Quite yourself admit this in your post:

However Joanne willfully decided to misconstrue my words there. The poll I set up a week ago was to prove that her intention was to malign me and defame me has been successful, and I take offense to this.

 

IF you would have been looking for THE TRUTH and not something to pet your will/ego or name it how you please! – you would have found the way to go for it! Thus, IF we consider JoAnne’s “willfully misconstrue” your words than YOU DID/DO AT LEAST THE SAME HERE!

 

It is interesting to notice how well you can read between the lines (as you say) but you fail to read the lines; maybe you get bored some where in the middle and read them just by half! Else I don’t know how to explain some of your statements here which are so far from the truth and everyone who is interested and reading things here on ALP, knows them!!!! Though, I’m also astonished how many posting here, are not doing that! Just taking all the READY MADE things without giving themselves (first of all) the chance to think and conclude with their own mind?! … of course all these may go to the ones reporting you just based on JoAnne's post! I think when reporting some one or something to the authorities, one must have a little bit more reason than the simple feeling and thought like: I DON’T LIKE IT! This is not just a matter of taste!

 

You, and many here, express your/their astonishment how and why should some one hurt you?! Have you ever thought IF YOU DID SOMETHING THAT HURTS OTHERS?! Have you ever wondered WHAT IF YOU ARE WRONG?! JUST WHAT IF!!! I guess not as it cannot be the case; you are having the secret to the ULTIMATE TRUTH, after all, and you are the only one having the exclusive right to show it to the four cardinal points, no matter what!

 

I just wonder WHY SHOULDN’T SOMEONE ELSE HAVE THE SAME RIGHT!?

TO SPEAK OUT YOUR MIND! = FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

 

In many cases YOU JUST FOLLOW THAT PRICIPAL and accomplish your right!

(I respect you for that!!!) … and some other friends here on ALP does exactly the same! It is everyone’s right to celebrated whom they want, to THINK and to express their thoughts, doubts but also TO GATHER INFORMATIONS and to share them! … And also each of us, as GROWN UPS, are responsible for our words!

NOT FOR WHAT IS BORN IN ANYONE'S MIND and their own interpretations!

 

… but one has to do this in a respectful manner! … with this discipline you are a kind of a pupil ploughed in an examination! (I cannot respect you for this the same!!!!)

 

Some of your posts are very informative, friendly and pleasant to visit and read; but there also are quite a few … let’s just name them, NOT THAT FRIENDLY AND RESPECTFUL! … and based on what?! YOUR FEELINGS, THOUGHTS and other thus “beyond any doubt” proofs!? … expressing ACCUSATIONS, ATTACKS and THREATS!

To speak only about my own experience with you, I would ask you: WHEN WAS I DISRESPECTFUL TO YOU? WHERE DID I EVER ATTACK YOU IN PM’S OR OPENLY?! You apologized IF and even though I accepted your “blind apologies” for the sake of PEACE and QUITE, posted this as I promised and than you DELETE ME FROM YOUR FRIENDS LIST AND PROCLAIM ME THIEF! (I have to say, at first, I understood nothing of it and only after a while I found your post about this!!!) Than, for also un-known reasons you decide to show me mercy?! WHY?! … to show your big and loving heart to the community?! … and than to have another chance to use my name and slander me along my friends?! …

 

I just wonder, WHY DO YOU DO THAT? … and also HOW CAN YOU DO SUCH THINGS TO YOUR FRIENDS SO VERY MUCH LOVED AND APRECIATED A DAY AGO!? Are your convictions so easy to shake and change?!

 

Now, let’s come to your post “dedicated” to us: JoAnne, Jim, Peter, and Me!

 

As I’ve already mentioned in this post, there are quite a few statements “badly lacking accuracy” (to keep it in between polite boundaries) – and about most of them Peter already posted, so it has no use to go through them again!

I would just kindly ask you to explain me what did you mean by:

 

Ana Maria!

You were the black goat and I am sure you got your lesson. I am glad that my friends have the spirit to send you “smiles” and you more and more return to daily routine. Happy be for being a long term friend. We have the courage to understand

 

Whom do you refer with WE?! … and to understand what? … this:

 

“Please God, keep me safe of my friends as with my enemy I can deal myself”

 

It is funny, when I wrote this, I was thinking of no one specific (the topic reminded me of my grandma’ rather than you), but as JoAnne posted about “friends” it fitted so well there; yet now, I may post another quote/saying which came into my mind right after reading your post in DAYS TO SHARE LOVE:

 

TIMEO DANAOS ET DONA FERENTES

(I’m afraid of Greeks when (even if) they give gifts – my translations so feel free to look up for another)

I didn’t post it to you as I thought: WHAT IF HE IS REALLY COMING WITH A FRIENDLY HAND?! Now, I know you were preparing this one more “friendly” post for us!

 

a drowning person grips his own hair

 

You must know about this! I am as smart as to keep myself safe and to know that the best swimmers who think way too much about themselves are the ones so irresponsible to get into such troubles without natural calamities.

 

I would say more here and with this respect but I won’t right now, but I cannot remark how sensitive you are to some “supposed” accusations and concerned about your own being when you show no respect to the same persons!?!

 

IF:

  “Please God, keep me safe of my friends as with my enemy I can deal myself”

 

And

 

“I do understand how you feel about any online threat that was made by someone with whom you have considered as a friend and have exchanged a lot of communication. I myself was shocked also”.

 

are accusations, according to your statement:

 

Juridical there are two accusations, both from you and JoAnne.

 

Than how should I call your posts?! Are there any samples needed? I think not! But I’ll gather them in case you do not remember!?

 

As about this “poll” and its relevance, many friends already posted about its value and worth! You said you invited 100 friends to vote; 31 of them means 31% of which (using your own calculations)

 

·  64,5% (25/31 of  the voters) received the information as I was he who reported JoAnne's forums to the administration. 25%

·  51,6% (16/31 of  the voters) received the information as JoAnne's purpose was to expose me for being an e-banking scammer. 16%

·  32,3% (10/31 of  the voters) received the information as I am neither a e-banking scammer either was I he who report  10%

 

… and this IF we report to just 100 members who are no more than 4% of your friends 10% of her friends! Do You think this is relevant?! … mainly considering some of the voters and posters here had NO CLUE ABOUT THE ENTIRE THING!

 

Well, I guess I will STOP here and I managed to express myself without offending anyone! (this wasn' the purpose of this post) … but as YOURSELF, I TOO HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO POST THEM!

It will be interesting to see how many of them will really get an ANSWER!

AnaMaria

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Georgios VS JoAnne
2/17/2009 9:48:06 AM

Ani,

I am so sad to see you upset with anything. I am not sure about the way to make any things clear, also cann`t understand much here, and just feel so sad to see my two dear friends, arguing with a lot of negative emotions.

I am happy to know you are again with us, and as I already told to Georgios , now will tell to you:

WHATEVER ANYONE MAY TELL ABOUT YOU ... MY HEART SCREAMS oUT THAT YOU NOT DESERVE TO FEEL UPSET AND TO BE BLAME FOR ANYTHING.

OMG!!!! THIS POTY HAS FINISHED A LONG TIME AGO. WHY DON`T YOU STOP ???

I WISH TO LISTEN (NOT ONLY TO SEE) OUR DEAR TRE-HUGER CHIRPING AND SPREADING ONLY GOOD VIBES ALL OVER ALP!!!

I SAW, AT LEAST, TWO POSTS AT ALP LIKE WAS THIS YOUR POST:

ONCE LYDIA FOKINA POSTED AT BRANKA`S FORUM , AND NYCK MYS WASN`T LOG OFF .. SO, THE TEXT AND SIGNATURE UNDER IT WAS WRITTEN BY LYDIA - AND THE ICOM WAS FROM NYCK MYS. THEY USE THE SAME COMP! NEXT TIME, MY MOTHER POSTED AT BILL VANDERBILT`S FORUM, AND IN ERROR LOGGED IN WITH LILLY`S LOG IN DETAILS. LILLY GAVE THIS HER LAPTOP TO US, AND HER LOGGING DETAILS STILL ARE HERE.

ERRORS HAPPEN - I DO NOT CONSIDER YOU AS A CHEATER ALSO. I DO VERY, VERY MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT AND APPRECITE YOU ANI.

I BEG THE BOTH OF YOU (HAVE NO CONNECTIONS WITH OTHERS) TO STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER. WE WHO LOVE AND APPRECIATE YOU, REALLY DO NOT DESERVE TO BE STRESSED BY YOUR ARGUING.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY EMOTIONAL REACTION - BUT LOL !!! I CANN`T EITHER!



I AM SORRY FOR DIDN`T BORN AS A SNAIL

LUKA, WHOLOVES AND APPRECIATES GEORGIOS AND ANAMARIA
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Re: Georgios VS JoAnne
2/17/2009 9:55:46 AM

THE SPELL-CHECK WORKS, IF I REMEMBER TO USE IT :) . NOW I SEE TO MUCH ERRORS ... AND APOLOGIZE, BUT FORGOT TO CHECK WHAT AND HOW I WROTE. HEART WAS FASTER THAN MIND.

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