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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
1/30/2009 2:33:12 AM

Hello Rinna,

Yes there are always innocent casualties in war and in this case even more so due to the tactic of using innocents as shields used by the Hamas. They learned this from the Hezbollah in Lebanon where they always fired their rockets and mortars from densely populated areas (mostly Christian villages and institutions).

The Hamas aren't guilty of using Christian children and woman as shields since there are no Christians in Gaza so without any compunction they use their own and even brag about it. See previous posts and videos.

Regardless Israel sends out warnings before retaliating but needless to say they aren't heeded. We will protect ourselves from the over 7000 bombs and mortars fired by the Hamas on Israel. I doubt any other country in the world would react differently with the exception that we suffered these bombings for over 3 years without reacting in any way other then trying to reach a viable peace solution with them. Guess you could say they aren't interested.

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Peter

 

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Rinna Rani

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
1/30/2009 5:30:21 AM
Oh Peter,
This is so sad to hear.  I don't understand why common sense can't be used and its so heart wrenching to watch this videos.

If only they can understand that children should not have any part in this.

Thanks for sharing Peter.  I will say a prayer for the children and people who suffer from war.

You are such an outstanding hearted person for sharing this with us and allowing us to know what is going on.

Take care with love,
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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
1/30/2009 7:33:43 AM


Yes, Rinna, Peter is doing a wonderful job of keeping us informed.  There are many things I would not have known if he had not given us this information.  We need to pass this information on to the world.

Not only do the Palestinians use the children and some adults, too, as human shields, they also bomb, on purpose, if I understand it correctly, their own children, then they take pictures of their live and dead bodies.  They show these pictures to anyone who will listen and they tell them that the children were tortured by Israelis.  How sick can it get?   I saw a video about it but now I cannot find it.  I usually save videos such as this but it was poor quality.

Hamas is so sneaky that I am thinking that many of the videos they publish are, for the most part, actual lies.  An example would be where they show Israelis beating Palestinians including children.  These videos, I believe, were acted out using Israeli Army uniforms or uniforms they created to look like them.

Does that mean that the Israeli soldiers and police are perfect?  I think most of them are honorable upright men and women but I am sure they have their share of rouges as we do in our various countries but nothing compares to what Hamas is doing.

Helen

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Rinna Rani

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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
1/30/2009 7:46:36 AM
Hi Helen,
Greetings!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.  I remember watching a video on YouTube where Israeli and Palastenian soldiers just raided a house of their own people and started smashing everything in the house claiming that the house was harboring either one party.

The sad part to watch is the children were terrified that something was going to happen to their parents and they were crying and wailing begging the soldiers to stop.

Same scenarios, both countries.  Somehow, I feel that arrogance has been instilled into both parties that they have become oblivious to what we call - human feelings.

They have just wiped out the fact that both countries are acting the same way, same scenario but just different place.

This is sad because my primary sadness of watching this is the children.  They look confused, lost, angry, sad - the look in their eyes is unbearable, frightening and just blank.

I wish to cry and cry and cry but somehow, the tears that fall to the ground will only be known by the LORD.

Thank you Helen and Peter for this news.

Love,
Rinna
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Re: Human Shields In Gaza
1/30/2009 8:57:18 AM


Hi Rinna

How do you know who the people in the video were?  Were they really Israelis or were they made to look Israelis?  I think a lot of what is going on on YouTube is to try to make the Israelis really look like they are the culprits in everything.  Did you ever watch some of the videos by Brigitte Gabriel? 

Go to www.americancongressfortruth.com   and listen to the video that features an interview with Brigitte Gabriel.   This woman was a journalist in the Middle East and saw both sides of this nightmare.  Brigitte says the Palestinians are masters at manipulating the media.

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