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RE: HSIG - Obama’s secret talks with Iran exposed: Back door channel working to
4/11/2012 6:48:24 AM
Hello Friends,

Are there behind the scenes talks between the B Hussein regime and the lunatic Iranians? It seems there are and as usual B Hussein publicly says one thing and behind the scenes the exact opposite. Is it any wonder Ahmadinejad doesn't take B Hussein seriously? Can anyone think of any reason Israel should trust B Hussein and anything he says?

He's been leaking secret information to the press and working behind the scenes to sabotage Israel and any plans she has. Everything he does and says smells of campaigning and he has a different story for every person or country he's talking to. But, hot mikes sorta showed him to be the fifth column in the United States and he's still sitting in the White House.

Shalom,

Peter

Obama’s secret talks with Iran exposed: Back door channel working to stop Israeli attack.

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By Aaron Klein

JERUSALEM — President Obama has been engaged in secret back channel talks with Iran in which he informed Tehran’s leaders he is completely opposed to any Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, according to informed Middle Eastern officials.

The officials told KleinOnline the behind-the-scenes talks aim to secure a guarantee from Iran the country will not retaliate against the U.S. in the event of any Israeli military strike, the officials said.

It was unclear what if anything Obama offered Iran in exchange for any pledge against targeting U.S. installations, including in the Gulf.

The State Department did not immediately return a KleinOnline request seeking comment on the alleged back door talks.

In a wide-ranging interview March 9 with Al-Monitor, an Arab website founded in the wake of the Middle East revolutions, former Senator Chuck Hagel hinted that private approaches to Iran were already occurring.

Hagel is co-chairman of Obama’s Intelligence Advisory Board. While he was in the senate he served on the Foreign Relations Committee.

Al-Monitor’s Washington correspondent, Barbara Slavin, interviewed Hagel at Georgetown University, where he teaches a weekly class.

Slavin asked Hagel: “Do you know if there any private approaches going on or is it all through the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council plus Germany?

Hagel replied, “I know more than I can tell you; there may be. I hope. I don’t see any other way around this. Because you can’t deal with something … as explosive as this is out in the public.”

According to the Middle East officials speaking to KleinOnline, political officials at the Pentagon, coordinating with the White House, have repeatedly asked Israel to not strike Iran.

According to the officials, who are familiar with the talks, the Pentagon has made the following arguments to Israel about why a strike at this time is unnecessary:

*An Israeli strike will not be able to totally destroy Iran’s nuclear project, which is spread out to multiple sites, thus making a successful attack more difficult.

*Iran can rebuild its nuclear infrastructure in a matter of a few years.

*Iran’s nuclear project is currently based on uranium and not the more weaponizable plutonium, giving Israel more time to allow sanctions to work.

*Intelligence agencies allegedly operating inside Iran working to slow Iran’s nuclear progress have had enough success to buy more time.

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RE: HSIG - With Leaks, Obama's Last Excuse on Israel Gone
4/11/2012 12:08:42 PM
Hello Friends,

B Hussein's proven again and again he embraces America's enemies and throws her allies under the bus. The last known act of border line treason is his promise of more flexibility if he gets the space he needs from the Russians after the elections. He doesn't say the magic word IF but states categorically as a surety that he will be elected. The hot mike caught him in the act while talking to Russia's Medvedev.

Yep, he'll be more flexible to give the Russians more American secrets and betray the country he's supposed to defend and gave his oath to defend. Pure unadulterated Taqiyya.

So I don't believe anyone is surprised that he's giving away Israeli secrets if he's so willing to pull the plug on his own country. All the "leaks" and secret talks with the lunatic Iranian regime are to undermine and sabotage Israeli plans and by doing so strengthens the Iranians and once again they see how weak he is and know that he can easily be manipulated especially when you consider his Islamic agenda.

The below article goes into more detail about the sabotage and betrayal of Israel. As the old saying goes "with friends like that who needs enemies" and B Hussein's proven that if he's not an outright enemy he's the closest thing to one you can find. And yes friends, that includes his attitude to America as well. He really doesn't like her very much and wants to press the restart button on America and is well on his way to doing just that. Vote him out in 2012.

Shalom,

Peter

With Leaks, Obama's Last Excuse on Israel Gone




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President Barack Obama has run out of excuses for his anti-Israel policy. He has long boasted of "unprecedented" security cooperation with Israel on his watch (largely the result of policies enacted before he arrived at the White House). Yet his administration’s recent leaks about Israel’s possible military plans to to prevent a nuclear Iran have undermined Obama’s assurances. This is not cooperation--it is sabotage.

Indeed, the Iranian regime could not hope for better intelligence sources than what Obama’s defense officials leak to the media on a regular basis. First there was the revelation in June 2010 that Israel might use Saudi Arabia's airspace in order to fly a more direct route to Iran. The unanticipated Saudi-Israeli cooperation was leaked to, and then reported by, the London Times, citing anonymous “U.S. defense sources.”

Next, there was the bizarre leak by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta himself in February that Israel might attack Iran “in April, May, or June.” The leak--unprecedented in the history of U.S.-Israel relations--removed any element of surprise that Israel might have enjoyed, and effectively helped postpone any Israeli strike while allowing Iran additional time to prepare and to develop its nuclear weapons program.

Then, most recently, Foreign Policy reported--again, citing anonymous U.S. defense sources--that Israel had hoped to use an air base in Azerbaijan as a possible way to launch an air strike against Iran.

Media observers began to notice the pattern--”Did the U.S. just torpedo Israeli deal for a base in Azerbaijan?” the Christian Science Monitor asked--and to wonder why Israel’s “best friend” was doing so much to help the enemy.

Obama has pointed to his administration’s support for Israel’s “Iron Dome” and Arrow missile defense systems, along with increased security aid and joint military exercises, as evidence of his commitment to Israel’s security. These achievements have also been hyped by Obama’s supporters to cover up his glaring failures and broken promises on Jerusalem, on the peace process, and on confronting the genocidal Iranian regime.

Now, with the Obama administration regularly interfering with and revealing Israeli military plans, it is impossible for Democrats and their media allies to make the ever-more-ridiculous claim that he is the best friend Israel has had in the White House.

Worse, the Obama administration is helping Iran unravel the U.S.-Israel alliance, exposing Israel to attack and allowing Iran to threaten America's interests and stature.


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4/12/2012 6:01:14 PM
[quote]Hello Friends,

B Hussein's proven again and again he embraces America's enemies and throws her allies under the bus. The last known act of border line treason is his promise of more flexibility if he gets the space he needs from the Russians after the elections. He doesn't say the magic word IF but states categorically as a surety that he will be elected. The hot mike caught him in the act while talking to Russia's Medvedev.

Yep, he'll be more flexible to give the Russians more American secrets and betray the country he's supposed to defend and gave his oath to defend. Pure unadulterated Taqiyya.

So I don't believe anyone is surprised that he's giving away Israeli secrets if he's so willing to pull the plug on his own country. All the "leaks" and secret talks with the lunatic Iranian regime are to undermine and sabotage Israeli plans and by doing so strengthens the Iranians and once again they see how weak he is and know that he can easily be manipulated especially when you consider his Islamic agenda.

The below article goes into more detail about the sabotage and betrayal of Israel. As the old saying goes "with friends like that who needs enemies" and B Hussein's proven that if he's not an outright enemy he's the closest thing to one you can find. And yes friends, that includes his attitude to America as well. He really doesn't like her very much and wants to press the restart button on America and is well on his way to doing just that. Vote him out in 2012.

Shalom,

Peter

With Leaks, Obama's Last Excuse on Israel Gone




8 days ago 1

President Barack Obama has run out of excuses for his anti-Israel policy. He has long boasted of "unprecedented" security cooperation with Israel on his watch (largely the result of policies enacted before he arrived at the White House). Yet his administration’s recent leaks about Israel’s possible military plans to to prevent a nuclear Iran have undermined Obama’s assurances. This is not cooperation--it is sabotage.

Indeed, the Iranian regime could not hope for better intelligence sources than what Obama’s defense officials leak to the media on a regular basis. First there was the revelation in June 2010 that Israel might use Saudi Arabia's airspace in order to fly a more direct route to Iran. The unanticipated Saudi-Israeli cooperation was leaked to, and then reported by, the London Times, citing anonymous “U.S. defense sources.”

Next, there was the bizarre leak by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta himself in February that Israel might attack Iran “in April, May, or June.” The leak--unprecedented in the history of U.S.-Israel relations--removed any element of surprise that Israel might have enjoyed, and effectively helped postpone any Israeli strike while allowing Iran additional time to prepare and to develop its nuclear weapons program.

Then, most recently, Foreign Policy reported--again, citing anonymous U.S. defense sources--that Israel had hoped to use an air base in Azerbaijan as a possible way to launch an air strike against Iran.

Media observers began to notice the pattern--”Did the U.S. just torpedo Israeli deal for a base in Azerbaijan?” the Christian Science Monitor asked--and to wonder why Israel’s “best friend” was doing so much to help the enemy.

Obama has pointed to his administration’s support for Israel’s “Iron Dome” and Arrow missile defense systems, along with increased security aid and joint military exercises, as evidence of his commitment to Israel’s security. These achievements have also been hyped by Obama’s supporters to cover up his glaring failures and broken promises on Jerusalem, on the peace process, and on confronting the genocidal Iranian regime.

Now, with the Obama administration regularly interfering with and revealing Israeli military plans, it is impossible for Democrats and their media allies to make the ever-more-ridiculous claim that he is the best friend Israel has had in the White House.

Worse, the Obama administration is helping Iran unravel the U.S.-Israel alliance, exposing Israel to attack and allowing Iran to threaten America's interests and stature.


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Hi Peter and All ,
Obama is a psychopath!! I can't see it any other way . He has done enough already to be shot for treason but he has such a shield around him via the media and his minions he is untouchable. If Americans don't vote him out in 2012 ,I fear not only will there be no alliance between Israel and the US but I also wonder if there will be an Israel or a United States, has no fear of what Putin could do to us (I say that because the Iron curtain might have fallen but Putin is still very much a communist) and he certainly wants a fight between Iran and Israel.

Shalom,
Geketa

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RE: HSIG - With Leaks, Obama's Last Excuse on Israel Gone
4/14/2012 12:04:00 PM
Hey Geketa,

I saw you had a post up and somehow it disappeared. I certainly hope it wasn't something I inadvertently did.

Shalom,

Peter

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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
4/14/2012 12:11:09 PM
Hi Geketa,

Strange things are happening here. At first your post disappeared and then when I mentioned it disappeared it appeared again. Very strange.

I believe the alliance between Israel and the United States will remain strong and true despite B Hussein. The majority of Americans are staunch supporters of Israel and B Hussein can't destroy that.

His latest "hot mike" episode (it wasn't his first. Remember the one with Sarkozy?) shows exactly what he plans to do if reelected and it's our job to make sure it never happens.

Shalom,

Peter


Quote:
[quote]Hello Friends,

B Hussein's proven again and again he embraces America's enemies and throws her allies under the bus. The last known act of border line treason is his promise of more flexibility if he gets the space he needs from the Russians after the elections. He doesn't say the magic word IF but states categorically as a surety that he will be elected. The hot mike caught him in the act while talking to Russia's Medvedev.

Yep, he'll be more flexible to give the Russians more American secrets and betray the country he's supposed to defend and gave his oath to defend. Pure unadulterated Taqiyya.

So I don't believe anyone is surprised that he's giving away Israeli secrets if he's so willing to pull the plug on his own country. All the "leaks" and secret talks with the lunatic Iranian regime are to undermine and sabotage Israeli plans and by doing so strengthens the Iranians and once again they see how weak he is and know that he can easily be manipulated especially when you consider his Islamic agenda.

The below article goes into more detail about the sabotage and betrayal of Israel. As the old saying goes "with friends like that who needs enemies" and B Hussein's proven that if he's not an outright enemy he's the closest thing to one you can find. And yes friends, that includes his attitude to America as well. He really doesn't like her very much and wants to press the restart button on America and is well on his way to doing just that. Vote him out in 2012.

Shalom,

Peter

With Leaks, Obama's Last Excuse on Israel Gone




8 days ago 1

President Barack Obama has run out of excuses for his anti-Israel policy. He has long boasted of "unprecedented" security cooperation with Israel on his watch (largely the result of policies enacted before he arrived at the White House). Yet his administration’s recent leaks about Israel’s possible military plans to to prevent a nuclear Iran have undermined Obama’s assurances. This is not cooperation--it is sabotage.

Indeed, the Iranian regime could not hope for better intelligence sources than what Obama’s defense officials leak to the media on a regular basis. First there was the revelation in June 2010 that Israel might use Saudi Arabia's airspace in order to fly a more direct route to Iran. The unanticipated Saudi-Israeli cooperation was leaked to, and then reported by, the London Times, citing anonymous “U.S. defense sources.”

Next, there was the bizarre leak by Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta himself in February that Israel might attack Iran “in April, May, or June.” The leak--unprecedented in the history of U.S.-Israel relations--removed any element of surprise that Israel might have enjoyed, and effectively helped postpone any Israeli strike while allowing Iran additional time to prepare and to develop its nuclear weapons program.

Then, most recently, Foreign Policy reported--again, citing anonymous U.S. defense sources--that Israel had hoped to use an air base in Azerbaijan as a possible way to launch an air strike against Iran.

Media observers began to notice the pattern--”Did the U.S. just torpedo Israeli deal for a base in Azerbaijan?” the Christian Science Monitor asked--and to wonder why Israel’s “best friend” was doing so much to help the enemy.

Obama has pointed to his administration’s support for Israel’s “Iron Dome” and Arrow missile defense systems, along with increased security aid and joint military exercises, as evidence of his commitment to Israel’s security. These achievements have also been hyped by Obama’s supporters to cover up his glaring failures and broken promises on Jerusalem, on the peace process, and on confronting the genocidal Iranian regime.

Now, with the Obama administration regularly interfering with and revealing Israeli military plans, it is impossible for Democrats and their media allies to make the ever-more-ridiculous claim that he is the best friend Israel has had in the White House.

Worse, the Obama administration is helping Iran unravel the U.S.-Israel alliance, exposing Israel to attack and allowing Iran to threaten America's interests and stature.


[/quote

Hi Peter and All ,
Obama is a psychopath!! I can't see it any other way . He has done enough already to be shot for treason but he has such a shield around him via the media and his minions he is untouchable. If Americans don't vote him out in 2012 ,I fear not only will there be no alliance between Israel and the US but I also wonder if there will be an Israel or a United States, has no fear of what Putin could do to us (I say that because the Iron curtain might have fallen but Putin is still very much a communist) and he certainly wants a fight between Iran and Israel.

Shalom,
Geketa

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