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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
3/19/2012 1:04:25 PM
Hi Peter, I read this article with great interest. Here is someone who had wholly false beliefs about the situation between Israel and the Palestinians but had enough guts to admit it when she experienced first hand the true facts.
It angers me when I see the anti Semitics and anti Israel idiots trying to discredit this tiny nation who is smack in the middle of in an intolerable situation with sworn enemies all around who are trying everything in their power to safe guard their country and it's people. What is so shocking is these are some of the very same people we see preaching love and forgiveness. How hypocritical is that?
Thanks for this great article.

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Hello Friends,

There are many people who come to Israel with preconceived anti Israel ideas and notions. In most cases it's due to political organizations they belong to, reading all the
venomous anti Israel propaganda in so many of the MSM and the rise in antisemitism and anti Zionist diatribes heard both online and offline.

Here's a story about a filmmaker who hated Israel and thought the radical liberal progressive left was always right but this filmmaker had a 180º change of heart while in Israel preparing a documentary.

Read the full story in the below article, it's an interesting read and an eye opener.

Shalom,

Peter

A Filmmaker’s Second Thoughts

Posted by Bio ↓ on Mar 14th, 2012



The following article was originally published by The Sunday Independent.

I used to hate Israel. I used to think the Left was always right. Not any more. Now I loathe Palestinian terrorists. Now I see why Israel has to be hard. Now I see the Left can be Right — as in right-wing. So why did I change my mind so completely?

Strangely, it began with my anger at Israel’s incursion into Gaza in December 2008 which left over 1,200 Palestinians dead, compared to only 13 Israelis. I was so angered by this massacre I posed in the striped scarf of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation for an art show catalogue.

Shortly after posing in that PLO scarf, I applied for funding from the Irish Arts Council to make a film in Israel and Palestine. I wanted to talk to these soldiers, to challenge their actions — and challenge the Israeli citizens who supported them.

I spent seven weeks in the area, dividing my time evenly between Israel and the West Bank. I started in Israel. The locals were suspicious. We were Irish — from a country which is one of Israel’s chief critics — and we were filmmakers. We were the enemy.

Then I crossed over into the West Bank. Suddenly, being Irish wasn’t a problem. Provo graffiti adorned The Wall. Bethlehem was Las Vegas for Jesus-freaks — neon crucifixes punctuated by posters of martyrs.

These martyrs followed us throughout the West Bank. They watched from lamp-posts and walls wherever we went. Like Jesus in the old Sacred Heart pictures.

But the more I felt the martyrs watching me, the more confused I became. After all, the Palestinian mantra was one of “non-violent resistance”. It was their motto, repeated over and over like responses at a Catholic mass.

Yet when I interviewed Hind Khoury, a former Palestinian government member, she sat forward angrily in her chair as she refused to condemn the actions of the suicide bombers. She was all aggression.

This aggression continued in Hebron, where I witnessed swastikas on a wall. As I set up my camera, an Israeli soldier shouted down from his rooftop position. A few months previously I might have ignored him as my political enemy. But now I stopped to talk. He only talked about Taybeh, the local Palestinian beer.

Back in Tel Aviv in the summer of 2011, I began to listen more closely to the Israeli side. I remember one conversation in Shenkin Street — Tel Aviv’s most fashionable quarter, a street where everybody looks as if they went to art college. I was outside a cafe interviewing a former soldier.

He talked slowly about his time in Gaza. He spoke about 20 Arab teenagers filled with ecstasy tablets and sent running towards the base he’d patrolled. Each strapped with a bomb and carrying a hand-held detonator.

The pills in their bloodstream meant they felt no pain. Only a headshot would take them down.

Conversations like this are normal in Tel Aviv. I began to experience the sense of isolation Israelis feel. An isolation that began in the ghettos of Europe and ended in Auschwitz.

Israel is a refuge — but a refuge under siege, a refuge where rockets rain death from the skies. And as I made the effort to empathise, to look at the world through their eyes. I began a new intellectual journey. One that would not be welcome back home.

The problem began when I resolved to come back with a film that showed both sides of the coin. Actually there are many more than two. Which is why my film is called Forty Shades of Grey. But only one side was wanted back in Dublin. My peers expected me to come back with an attack on Israel. No grey areas were acceptable.

An Irish artist is supposed to sign boycotts, wear a PLO scarf, and remonstrate loudly about The Occupation. But it’s not just artists who are supposed to hate Israel. Being anti-Israel is supposed to be part of our Irish identity, the same way we are supposed to resent the English.

But hating Israel is not part of my personal national identity. Neither is hating the English. I hold an Irish passport, but nowhere upon this document does it say I am a republican, or a Palestinian.


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RE: Human Shields In Gaza
3/19/2012 3:04:25 PM
Hi Evelyn,

Yep, it is refreshing for people to admit they were wrong and do it in a very public manner, even when they know it might affect their careers.

I thought the article was very telling cos she had all her preconceived notions and beliefs before she ever met an Israeli or set foot in Israel. So many fall into that trap and when the facts on the ground show a completely different story are unable to shake their original beliefs they are so ingrained with antisemitic and anti Israel propaganda. Or as I've said in other posts their agendas are pre written despite the true facts and nothing will change their minds.

It is amusing that these people are the ones that profess the loudest that love is the answer. With love like that who needs enemies? :)

Shalom,

Peter

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Hi Peter, I read this article with great interest. Here is someone who had wholly false beliefs about the situation between Israel and the Palestinians but had enough guts to admit it when she experienced first hand the true facts.
It angers me when I see the anti Semitics and anti Israel idiots trying to discredit this tiny nation who is smack in the middle of in an intolerable situation with sworn enemies all around who are trying everything in their power to safe guard their country and it's people. What is so shocking is these are some of the very same people we see preaching love and forgiveness. How hypocritical is that?
Thanks for this great article.

Quote:
Hello Friends,

There are many people who come to Israel with preconceived anti Israel ideas and notions. In most cases it's due to political organizations they belong to, reading all the
venomous anti Israel propaganda in so many of the MSM and the rise in antisemitism and anti Zionist diatribes heard both online and offline.

Here's a story about a filmmaker who hated Israel and thought the radical liberal progressive left was always right but this filmmaker had a 180º change of heart while in Israel preparing a documentary.

Read the full story in the below article, it's an interesting read and an eye opener.

Shalom,

Peter

A Filmmaker’s Second Thoughts

Posted by Bio ↓ on Mar 14th, 2012



The following article was originally published by The Sunday Independent.

I used to hate Israel. I used to think the Left was always right. Not any more. Now I loathe Palestinian terrorists. Now I see why Israel has to be hard. Now I see the Left can be Right — as in right-wing. So why did I change my mind so completely?

Strangely, it began with my anger at Israel’s incursion into Gaza in December 2008 which left over 1,200 Palestinians dead, compared to only 13 Israelis. I was so angered by this massacre I posed in the striped scarf of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation for an art show catalogue.

Shortly after posing in that PLO scarf, I applied for funding from the Irish Arts Council to make a film in Israel and Palestine. I wanted to talk to these soldiers, to challenge their actions — and challenge the Israeli citizens who supported them.

I spent seven weeks in the area, dividing my time evenly between Israel and the West Bank. I started in Israel. The locals were suspicious. We were Irish — from a country which is one of Israel’s chief critics — and we were filmmakers. We were the enemy.

Then I crossed over into the West Bank. Suddenly, being Irish wasn’t a problem. Provo graffiti adorned The Wall. Bethlehem was Las Vegas for Jesus-freaks — neon crucifixes punctuated by posters of martyrs.

These martyrs followed us throughout the West Bank. They watched from lamp-posts and walls wherever we went. Like Jesus in the old Sacred Heart pictures.

But the more I felt the martyrs watching me, the more confused I became. After all, the Palestinian mantra was one of “non-violent resistance”. It was their motto, repeated over and over like responses at a Catholic mass.

Yet when I interviewed Hind Khoury, a former Palestinian government member, she sat forward angrily in her chair as she refused to condemn the actions of the suicide bombers. She was all aggression.

This aggression continued in Hebron, where I witnessed swastikas on a wall. As I set up my camera, an Israeli soldier shouted down from his rooftop position. A few months previously I might have ignored him as my political enemy. But now I stopped to talk. He only talked about Taybeh, the local Palestinian beer.

Back in Tel Aviv in the summer of 2011, I began to listen more closely to the Israeli side. I remember one conversation in Shenkin Street — Tel Aviv’s most fashionable quarter, a street where everybody looks as if they went to art college. I was outside a cafe interviewing a former soldier.

He talked slowly about his time in Gaza. He spoke about 20 Arab teenagers filled with ecstasy tablets and sent running towards the base he’d patrolled. Each strapped with a bomb and carrying a hand-held detonator.

The pills in their bloodstream meant they felt no pain. Only a headshot would take them down.

Conversations like this are normal in Tel Aviv. I began to experience the sense of isolation Israelis feel. An isolation that began in the ghettos of Europe and ended in Auschwitz.

Israel is a refuge — but a refuge under siege, a refuge where rockets rain death from the skies. And as I made the effort to empathise, to look at the world through their eyes. I began a new intellectual journey. One that would not be welcome back home.

The problem began when I resolved to come back with a film that showed both sides of the coin. Actually there are many more than two. Which is why my film is called Forty Shades of Grey. But only one side was wanted back in Dublin. My peers expected me to come back with an attack on Israel. No grey areas were acceptable.

An Irish artist is supposed to sign boycotts, wear a PLO scarf, and remonstrate loudly about The Occupation. But it’s not just artists who are supposed to hate Israel. Being anti-Israel is supposed to be part of our Irish identity, the same way we are supposed to resent the English.

But hating Israel is not part of my personal national identity. Neither is hating the English. I hold an Irish passport, but nowhere upon this document does it say I am a republican, or a Palestinian.


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RE: HSIG - Syria: Sunni Jihadists Expel 90% Of Christians From Homs
3/19/2012 3:08:19 PM
Hello Friends,

I found the below article very interesting for a few reasons and one of them was the questions it raised.

Who is the good guy in Syria? While the Assad regime is definitely not good the rebels aren't much better.

I'm reminded of the NATO forces and B Hussein aiding and arming the rebels in Libya who were Al Qaeda and other jihadis that fought against America in Iraq. The new government there is run by the worst Jihadi organizations and supported by Iran (the same as in Iraq).

Now in Syria they're making the exact same mistakes with the rebels they are supporting and arming. Al Qaeda groups, the Muslim Brotherhood and other terrorist organizations. These same jihadi groups are now expelling Christians from Homs before they even toppled the Assad regime. Imagine what they'll do if and when Assad goes? Not a nice picture.

The western world simply doesn't learn from their mistakes and research who they are supporting before they commit themselves. Only idiots fail to learn from past mistakes and history ....... even if it is recent history.

Shalom,

Peter

Democracy on the march. Nothing to see here. "Christians expelled from Homs," from Notes on Arab Orthodoxy, March 14 (thanks to Palamas):

From the Syrian secularist website al-Haqiqa. Arabic original here.

For more information about the Islamist makeup of the "Free Syrian Army" from a source generally sympathetic to the rebels, see here.

For an excellent analysis of the bias and misinformation about Syria in American media, see here.

Armed men from the Faruq Brigade have succeeded in expelling most of the Christians of Homs and have seized their homes by force.

Al-Haqiqa has learned from church sources in Homs that the city has been emptied of almost 90% of its Christians. It is expected that a complete "cleansing" of buildings owned by Christians will occur within a matter of days or weeks by armed men from the Wahhabi "Faruq Brigade." A source in the Orthodox metropolitan's office told al-Haqiqa that armed men from the Faruq Brigade went to the homes of the Christians, house by house, in the neighborhoods of Hamidiya and Bustan el-Diwan, informing them that they must immediately leave their homes and the city of Homs. The source revealed that the lastest [sic] attempt to expel Christians by force of arms occured [sic] yesterday. It included Dr. Taleb Mashhour Gharibeh, professor of mathematics at Baath University in Homs, his brother the musician Marwan Mashhour Gharibeh (a musician in Sabah Fakhri's group), both of whom live in the Hamidiya neighborhood, their sister Marie Mashhour Gharibeh, who lives in the Bustan el-Diwan neighborhood, as well as their father and his wife the schoolteacher Maha Habou, who live in the new neighborhood el-Wa'ar. This wave of expulsions also included the residents of a six-story building in Hamidiya, whose residents include eighteen families, almost all of whom are from the village Uyoun el-Wadi.

The church sources said that the armed men informed the owners of the homes before they departed that if they did not leave immediately they would be shot and pictures of their corpses would be sent to al-Jazeera with the message that the government had killed them. The source emphasized that all those who were expelled "were not allowed to take any of their possessions with them, not even extra clothes. Immediately after they left their homes, the buildings were occupied by armed men who considered it 'war-booty from the Christians!'"

It should be noted that the Faruq Brigade is operated by armed elements from al-Qaeda and various Wahhabi groups and it includes mercenaries from Libya and Iraq. Last month they destroyed two churches with rocket fire, burning one and severely damaging the other.


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RE: HSIG - IDF Soldiers Use Dog On Violent Arab Demonstrator
3/19/2012 5:18:35 PM
Hello Friends,

Yesterday I saw in another thread here in adland a video about IDF soldiers using a dog on "demonstrators". Now this edited video failed to show these "peaceful" demonstrators throwing stones and rolling burning tires at these same soldiers. Need I remind you that many people were killed by these "peaceful" demonstrators throwing stones at people and cars? Hmmmm, can a burning tire also cause bodily harm?

Guess who treated this "peaceful" yet violent protester?

I wonder why they edited the violence of these "peaceful" demonstrators out of their propaganda video? Is anybody surprised that they did?????

Read more in the below article.

Shalom,

Peter

IDF Soldiers Use Dog on Arab Demonstrator

IDF soldiers use a dog on a PA Arab who behaves wildly during a violent demonstration in Samaria.
By Elad Benari, Canada
First Publish: 3/16/2012, 8:47 PM

Military dog
Military dog
Israel news photo: Flash 90

IDF soldiers used a dog on a Palestinian Authority Arab who behaved wildly during a violent demonstration in the town of Kafr Qaddum in Samaria.

The dog bit the demonstrator in the arm and caused ​​him bleeding. The Arab received medical treatment by IDF forces and did not need to be taken to hospital. Another protester was arrested.

The IDF said that the Arab demonstrators rolled burning tires towards Israeli security forces and threw stones at them.

Kafr Qaddum, which is located near the Jewish community of Kedumim, has recently become a point of friction between the IDF and Arabs who protest there on Fridays, usually joined and encouraged by leftist activists.

The protesters often try to enter Kedumim but the IDF and Border Police block them.

This friction is in addition to the violent demonstrations which take place every Friday near the Arab villages of Bilin and Naalin.


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RE: HSIG - Pat Condell: Tell The Truth About Islam
3/20/2012 6:41:21 AM
Hi All,

Pat Condell is back. It's been a while since I received anything from his youtube channel and the one today is as usual full of facts about Islam MSM refuses to report on. AND, if they do report on an "incident" they'll not say Muslims but Asians or other sound bytes used instead of the truth,which is: Muslims are the perpetrators.

This video "Tell the truth about islam" is definitely worth watching.

Shalom,

Peter


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INll6Y5iqbM&feature=uploademail

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