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Re: HSIG - The Fall Of Capitalism And Rise Of Islam - HTA conference 7/19/09 Chicago, Ill
7/20/2009 1:44:27 AM

Hi JoAnne,

It certainly a sad state of affairs when patriotic Americans are on the chopping block and not the true enemies of US.

I'm sure you already saw the saga of Res. Major Cook who was fired from his civilian job cos he questioned in the courts B Hussein's eligibility to be President. You can read it here.

These tactics are used by totalitarian regimes and the US is quickly becoming just that. It is fortunate that there are many Americans that are fighting for the freedoms that the Constitution gives all Americans.

You keep on fighting the fight and eventually the sheeples will wake up. Hopefully before it's to late. If we lose freedom of speech the battle is lost. We can't allow this to happen.

May the Tea Party members and other patriotic groups be fruitful and multiply.

Shalom,

Peter 

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Re: HSIG - Muslim Killing Muslim And The World Is Silent!
7/20/2009 2:11:33 AM
Hello Friends,

Today's Dry Bones caused me to ponder yet again about the great double standard in the world and used endlessly by B Hussein.

Muslims around the world are killing other Muslims in the thousands and hundreds of thousands and the world does nothing, says nothing and condemns nothing. Israel protects herself from over 10,000 bombs and mortars the Hamas fires on Israel and the world is in an uproar. From main stream media to the different governments in the world. Explain that if you can.

The United States and the world rush to give money to Hamas to rebuild and the only thing they will rebuild is their rocket, mortar and weapons stockpile. Oh, and line their pockets at the same time. Did I mention that Hamas and the Fatah are killing each other too? Another case of Muslim killing Muslim. Let's not forget Muslims killing Arab Christians.

The double standard is alive and well in the world. Hmmmm, I forgot trying to force Israel to stop building in Judea and Sameria is the solution to all the problems the world is facing.

Shalom,

Peter
 




It's not that the world is sitting by and watching what's happening on the streets of Iran. No, it's even worse that that. The world seems not to be watching at all. Which lead me to wonder what it would take for either the UN or the current American administration to take notice.

And that, of course, lead me to do today's cartoon

Your thoughts?

-Dry Bones- Israel's Political Comic Strip Since 1973

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Re: HSIG - Muslim Killing Muslim And The World Is Silent!
7/20/2009 10:17:51 AM
Hi Peter,

It is apparent that both The UN and the fake Messiah in charge of the American administration are both useless; unless you might of course be Israel they both stick their noses into everything they do don't defend yourself and stop all the  building on their own land. I betcha bones is 100% right, if they cried they were really Palestinians everyone would take notice. Both the UN and the Fake Messiah would be on Iran like white on rice.  Here is a novel thought .. maybe if all the Muslims wiped each other out than they would leave Israel  and the rest of the world alone and there really could be peace !


Shalom,

Geketa

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Re: HSIG - Muslim Killing Muslim And The World Is Silent!
7/21/2009 12:00:06 AM

Hi Geketa,

We've learned in the past that the UN has become a sounding board for Islam and any relation to being a contributor to peace and human rights in the world are a thing of the past. The very far past.

B Hussein is so transparent in his goals that it's become a pathetic attempt to try and dictate to friends and democratic countries and placate and kowtow to tyrannical regimes and dictatorships. The regimes despise him and his friends are trying to find ways to maintain historic friendships with the US until this farce of President is out of office.

Others have thought of your solution and it seems that the despotic Islamic regimes are trying desperately to attain that goal.

Shalom,

Peter

 

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Re: HSIG - Shariah Law Takes Precedance Over The US Constitution. So Says The HTA Conference
7/21/2009 12:02:41 AM
Hello Friends,

Hizb ut-Tahrir America held its first conference on Saturday the 19th of July. They openly and freely  stated their objectives to reinstate the Caliphate and Shariah Law in and on the world and America and guess what Main Stream Media had and has no comment about this event.

The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam. This has been one of the main objectives of Islamic Jihad and the large majority of Islamic organizations adhere to and believe in this but were not ready to openly state this as their obvious objective. Hizb ut-Tahrir America (HTA) changed all that on 7/19/09 at the Hilton Hotel in Chicago this past Saturday. Mark that date cos it will be the day that the real war started.

Death to the Constitution and Shariah Law here we come. Where is the media to report on this? Where is the Government to berate these ingrates that utilize the freedoms the Constitution bestows on them to fight for the demise of those same freedoms for others. Where is B Hussein the great pretender that claims we should "respect" them? Yep, respect those that want to kill you and destroy your way of life.

The war has started and hopefully this will be a wake up call for those still hypnotized by Islam's man in the White House B Hussein.

Below is an article by the Investigative Project On Terrorism that observed this infamous conference and reports on its objectives and its hate filled rhetoric that blames Capitalism and America for all the wrongs in the world and Islam and shariah law as the remedy. What a joke. Be sure to click on the video links.

Shalom,

Peter



Hizb Ut-Tahrir: Shariah Takes Precedence over U.S. Constitution

Imam Promises to Fight "Until Islam Becomes Victorious or We Die in the Attempt"

IPT News
July 20, 2009

Oak Lawn, Illinois - Hizb ut-Tahrir (HT), the international movement to re-establish an international Islamic state ­ or Caliphate - kicked off a new campaign to win American recruits Sunday afternoon in this Chicago suburb. Nearly 300 people packed the Grand Ballroom of the Hilton Hotel for its Khalifah Conference on "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" to listen to HT ideologues blame capitalism for World War I and World War II; the U.S. subprime mortgage meltdown; the current violence in Iraq and Afghanistan; world poverty and malnutrition and inner-city drug use.

A speaker identified as Abu Atallah even blamed capitalism for the late singer Michael Jackson's decision "to shed his black skin."

Hizb ut-Tahrir aims to restore the Caliphate that existed during the Ottoman Empire in Turkey. Turkish leader Kemal Ataturk abolished it in 1924 in an effort to create a secular, Europeanized state.

Security at the conference was very tight. Oak Lawn police maintained a checkpoint outside the Hilton, and local police and HT's own security people had a substantial presence inside the hotel. In the ballroom where the conference took place, men and women were largely segregated, with men in the front and women in the back. This became a significant point of contention between HT supporters and several members of the audience who objected to this arrangement. At one point, an unidentified Hizb ut-Tahrir speaker became flustered over this line of questioning.

"Men and women," he blurted out, must be kept separate "to prevent people from behaving like animals."

A woman in the audience responded: "How does intermingling between men and women make you animals?" HT panelists didn't have a persuasive answer, and soon adjourned that session.

The conference was sometimes poorly organized. There was no list of speakers, forcing reporters to sometimes guess at the spelling of speakers' names. But HT certainly appeared to be serious about working for the larger goals of the conference: abolishing capitalism and imposing Caliphate rule over the world.

According to Hizb ut-Tahrir, the world's social and economic problems will not be fixed until the world is governed by Shariah and the government controls all major industries. Lenders would no longer be able to charge interest, which one speaker decried as a "poisonous concept." Charity, or zakat, was advertised as the way to alleviate "economic inequality."

"Secular capitalism has made me devalue my skin" and "has kept my family in ghettos," said one speaker, an African-American who went on to blame it for the fact that he smoked marijuana and his grandmother played the lottery. Capitalism, he added, is a form of economic "terrorism" and "causes us to be sent to mental hospitals." Barack Obama's presidency, he said, "is only a scheme or con" to trick people into thinking that things will get better under capitalism.

But time and again on Sunday, Hizb ut-Tahrir officials seemed to be playing slippery rhetorical games of their own - particularly when it came to the behavior of despotic Muslim regimes and terrorists. When a few skeptical audience members pressed speakers over the fact that Islamic governments in Iran and Saudi Arabia are despotic, conference speakers claimed those weren't "authentic" Muslim governments and that the CIA (and by implication, the capitalist U.S. government) was to blame for the problems in those countries. In an interview with WBBM-TV in Chicago, HT deputy spokesman Mohammad Malkawi refused to specifically condemn Al Qaida and the Taliban.

Hizb ut-Tahrir has not been designated a terrorist group by the U.S. government and it insists it is only interested in instituting radical change by nonviolent means. But HT's alumni include 9/ll mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the late Iraqi terrorist leader Abu Musab Zarqawi and would-be Hamas suicide bombers, and the group's pro-jihadist rhetoric has led critics to label it a "conveyor belt for terrorists."

One Muslim American group issued a statement in advance of the conference condemning Hizb ut-Tahrir's radical ideology and challenging others to follow suit.

"Hizb ut-Tahrir preaches an ideology that calls for the destruction of the principles that America is founded on," said Zuhdi Jasser, president of the American-Islamic Forum for Democracy. "While their words are protected by our First Amendment, their actions and movement must not be allowed to take hold. The silence of American Islamist organizations like [the Council on American-Islamic Relations] CAIR and [the Islamic Society of North America] ISNA in condemning the ideologies of Hizb ut-Tahrir and their agenda of insurgency in America speaks volumes to their own, albeit, more camouflaged Islamist agenda."

HT's efforts to rehabilitate its image won't be helped by the menacing tone on display Sunday. One late-afternoon panelist suggested that modern industrial powers could fall to Muslims the way Mecca fell to Mohammed nearly 1,400 years ago.

A speaker identified by conference organizers as Imam Jaleel Abdul Adil said that "if they offer us the sun, or the moon, or a nice raise, or a passport, or a house in the suburbs or even a place to pray at the job, on the condition that we stop calling for Islam as a complete way of life - we should never do that, ever do that - unless and until Islam becomes victorious or we die in the attempt." (To see the clip, click here.)

Later, the following dialogue ensued between the imam and a member of the audience over whether Shariah or the Constitution should be the supreme law of the land in the United States (click here to see the clip):

Audience member: "Would you get rid of the Constitution for Shariah, yes or no?"

Imam: "Over the Muslim world? Yes, it would be gone."

Audience Member: And so if the United States was a Muslim world, the Constitution would be gone?"

Imam: "If the United States was in the Muslim world, the Muslims who are here would be calling and happy to see the Shariah applied, yes we would."

Audience Member: "And the Constitution gone. That's all."

Imam: "Yes, as Muslims they would be long gone."

While Hizb ut-Tahrir's controversial message attracted demonstrators and some media attention, the group at least is open about its ambitions. It not only is determined to destroy capitalism -- it would shred the United States Constitution as well in favor of Shariah law.

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