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Re: HSIG - Wafa Sultan's Comments On BHO's Infamous Cairo Speech
6/13/2009 9:39:59 AM
Hello Friends,

Wafa Sultan a well known Arab and Ex Muslim woman has been fighting the extreme ways of Islam for many years.

Wafa was raised in Syria and was a practicing Muslim for the first 32 years of her life. Events in the Muslim world traumatized her and she decided to emigrate to the USA and since then has been an ardent fighter of the teachings of Islam the Koran and Shariah Law.

She lived in hiding for many years and speaks out and is trying to teach the Muslim people that there is a different way to live and not according to the teachings of Islam.

Wafa Sultan today is a secular person and has a great respect for all religions and their right of worship according to their beliefs with the exception of Islam.

Below is an article she wrote about B Hussein's infamous speech in Cairo and well worth reading. In my next post I will give you a few samples of her bravery and dedication with some choice Youtube videos.

Shalom,

Peter

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June 12, 2009 6:30 AM
by Wafa Sultan

Who Should We Believe?

After President Obama’s Cairo speech, many of my Middle Eastern Arab readers reacted with bewilderment. As one of them expressed; “Who should we believe, Obama or you?” ‑ in particular his statement that “America and Islam overlap and share common principles, the principles of justice, tolerance and dignity for human beings”. 

True, reading the Arab press’s reaction to his speech it is clear that many Muslims now love Obama. After all, he introduced to them a narrative that affirms their conspiracy theories and their identity as victims of the West. Hence, the Arab media expressed their confidence that the speech will provide a “new stance towards Islam and the Muslims, after centuries of aggression and hostility.” (Al Ahram - Egypt- MEMRI)

 

More than anything, I am reminded of a story by  Nizar Qubbani, the famous Syrian poet.  His young son was a physician and suffered from an acute heart problem. When Nizar asked his son about his heart condition, the son drew a red heart. Being a poet, the father interpreted the drawing as a sign of a vibrant and healthy heart and took great comfort in believing this to be a sign of recovery. After his son’s passing, Nizar wrote a poem describing his feelings as a heartbroken father. He felt unbearably saddened as he realized he had misinterpreted the drawing. Obviously, the son’s sketch of a red heart was meant to convey no hope for his profusely bleeding heart, while the father’s understanding of the symbol as a hopeful one was wrong.

 

The poet and the physician perceived reality in totally different ways; similar to the dichotomy between President Obama’s view of the Islamic world and mine.

 

The truth is, however, that only one reality exists.

 

Mr. Obama is a politician, and a very astute one. However, his speech revealed that his view is unduly influenced by naïve desire. His perception of Islam and the reality of Islam need to be synchronized. I am a physician and a realist who has lived and experienced the effect of my Arab culture and Islamic religion since childhood.

 

The president pandered to Muslims: praised their accomplishments, commiserated with their grievances, and apologized for injustices done to them by centuries of colonialism -- without once mentioning the history of rampant and violent Arab colonialism.  He avoided any mention of Jihadi tenets, or of the Islamic political ideology of supremacy over non Muslims -- principles embedded in Sharia law. These are taught and sanctioned openly by Al-Azhar, the university that hosted him, the foremost center of Sharia studies. Obama underscored the supposed American mistreatment of terrorists and apologized for torture in Guantanamo, forgetting that Islamic regimes are brutal to their own people. The president also repudiated significant U.S. contributions in both the lives of its soldiers and humanitarian aid to Muslims across the globe made throughout history -- despite Muslim attacks against America and Americans.  In short, parts of his speech sounded like a new Pan-Arab messiah come to usher the Arab world back into its rightful world dominion.

 

Most disturbing was the president’s call to defend Muslims against negative stereotypes. A dangerous precedent is set when freedom of speech is silenced and ideological criticism forbidden. This, again, is the stuff of nightmarish totalitarian regimes. The beauty of the US Constitution is its balance, and the wisdom it embraces by distinguishing between that which should be protected and defended and that which should be prosecuted and decried. Encouraging laws to make criticism of Islam an offense punishable by law is troubling.

 

Since arriving in the US, I have enjoyed the freedom to educate my Arab brothers and sisters in the Middle East, who yearn for real freedom - and I have seen successes. Mr. Obama calls these very successes into question rather than championing freedom.

 

As the president embarks on his new task to defend Muslims “against negative stereotypes,” does this mean he will somehow interfere and undermine that message? Or, perhaps it means he may join with the Organization of Islamic Conference, the 57 Muslim countries that work relentlessly to promote a United Nations resolution to suppress voices of dissent against Islam? I am confident we would all come to regret this.

 

Obama sidesteps the acute state of affairs in the Islamic world with flattery, failing to encourage accountability for rhetoric, practices and the behavior that feed stereotypes.  I did not hear an exhortation to the Islamic world to open itself to diversity, to accept women as equal citizens with the same rights and protection under law as men. I did not hear a challenge to the Muslim world to accept other religions and their ability to practice openly within the Islamic world -- where the practice of Christianity, Judaism and other religions could cost an individual his or her life. I did not hear a call to erase for all time, Dhimmi racism -- the Sharia law-based dictate that Christians and Jews are inferior and should be suppressed.  Are these “…the principles of justice, tolerance and dignity for human beings”?

 

In contrast, I see my people’s heart bleeding and know the pressing need for self-correction and honest examination for the sake of urgent repair.  Obama dangles the carrot but shies away from the imperative issues boiling beneath the surface.

 

Obama’s reality makes my work and that of others who speak up against intolerant Islamic doctrines more challenging.  He undermines this mission by placating abusive, xenophobic policies and enabling those within the Islamic world to subjugate others, to coerce others to its beliefs, and to continue these pursuits with his blessing. 

 

The president failed to join freedom-loving individuals, liberated Arabs like myself. He failed to lead the Muslim world into modernization and vital reform.

 

Rather than calling out, “The house is on fire.” Obama smiles and tells us how beautiful the house is as it burns out of control and threatens to destroy us.

 

To the question I received on my e-mail; “Who should we believe, Obama or you?” I elaborated to my Moroccan reader that Obama is a politician who wishes to use sweet talk and to whitewash reality to make amends with Muslims.

 

I, on the other hand am a pragmatic Arab woman who escaped the prison of Islam to the free world and now devotes her life to expressing views freely and pressing for a genuine difference in Islam. We cannot have it both ways. Intolerance never tolerates freedom. 

 

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Re: HSIG - Wafa Sultan's Comments On BHO's Infamous Cairo Speech
6/13/2009 9:53:06 AM

Hello Friends,

Here are a few videos of Wafa Sultan and as with her article well worth watching. She expresses herself very well and is not afraid to debate the issues so important to her with Islamic clerics or with anybody else.

Shalom,

Peter

A debate with an Islamic cleric

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A discussion/debate on Al Jazeria TV

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Interview on Israel National Radio Part I

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Interview on INR Part II

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Re: HSIG - Wafa Sultan's Comments On BHO's Infamous Cairo Speech
6/13/2009 10:37:22 AM


Hello Peter and all

I have been following Wafa Sultan's speeches and interviews for at least a year and she is wonderful.  I love her.  I love her courage and the way she speaks out.

Wafa, in your post, said this.....

"Obama sidesteps the acute state of affairs in the Islamic world with flattery, failing to encourage accountability for rhetoric, practices and the behavior that feed stereotypes.  I did not hear an exhortation to the Islamic world to open itself to diversity, to accept women as equal citizens with the same rights and protection under law as men. I did not hear a challenge to the Muslim world to accept other religions and their ability to practice openly within the Islamic world -- where the practice of Christianity, Judaism and other religions could cost an individual his or her life. I did not hear a call to erase for all time, Dhimmi racism -- the Sharia law-based dictate that Christians and Jews are inferior and should be suppressed.  Are these “…the principles of justice, tolerance and dignity for human beings”? "

Did Obama sidestep all of these issues perhaps, because he is a Muslim?  What a frightening thought!  How will the Muslims take Obama's speech?  Will it soften their hearts toward the West (that would take a lot more than one speech; it is something only God could do.  Oh but then, I forgot, Obama is god)  ...or will they consider it a victory, an opportunity for their side making their job of world domination easier?

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Re: HSIG - Wafa Sultan's Comments On BHO's Infamous Cairo Speech
6/13/2009 10:59:40 AM

Hi Helen,

You raise an interesting question and I have no doubt that B Hussein's infamous speech will do nothing to improve relations between Islam, the US and the Western World.

Quite the opposite will occur. His speech will be interpreted as extreme weakness and Islam pounces on the weak and that is what will happen if B Hussein carries on with his agenda.

Don't forget that he also said that he took it upon himself to defend Muslims "against negative stereotypes". Consider that for a minute and understand that the conversation we're having now according to B Hussein will be against the law or illegal.

You know I've said in the past that B Hussein is probably a closet Muslim and I'll agree with you here that he most probably is one. His disgusting speech gave enough evidence to assume that it is more fact then just a thought.

Shalom,

Peter  

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Re: HSIG - John Voight Speaks Out Against BHO
6/13/2009 6:48:44 PM

Hello Friends,

I was of 2 minds in which thread to post the following video in this one or in the thread The President That Hates America. In the end I decided it is suitable for both but since it also relates to B Hussein's despicable Cairo speech I decided on this thread.

I was heartened to find that not all Hollywood celebrities are Obama subjects. Not all believe as Oprah that B Hussein is the "one". The left in Hollywood is notorious with the drivel they are spouting and their blindness to the plight of the rest of the citizens of the US and the citizens of the world for that matter.

Listen to John Voight who has the guts to say it as it is. When I say guts I mean just that cos the vindictiveness of the Hollywood crowd is well known as are the Democrats and their ilk. Thankfully there are those that won't be silenced.

Once upon a time there was John Wayne and now we are lucky to have John Voight.

Shalom,

Peter

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