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Re: BCN NEWS SAY CALIFORNIA MAN FORECASTS OBAMA SYMPATHY VOTE
10/26/2008 7:58:39 AM
Check the facts: Barack H. Obama is the name on his birth certificate. Which means that is the name his parents gave him, not something he made up on his own. His birth certificate has been verified. He was born in Hawaii.

As far as duel citizenships go, lots of Americans have them. A friend of mine has duel citizenship, here and in Greece, where her father is from. She was born here, she is a citizen here, but visits her relatives in Greece quite a bit.

I know what socialism is all about. While in high school, I studied it in depth with college students who were my friends, and part of a socialist movement. Obama's plan is not socialist. He believes that more than 5% of the country should be prosperous, that's all. I don't know why this upsets you. Do you make more than $250,000 a year? If not, then you have nothing to worry about. Why should the rich keep getting richer at the expense of the poor? Obama is about helping people, like myself, who do not make that much money. Don't you want a tax break? I do. I am among the 95% of the population who makes barely enough to get by, and now that the housing market has crashed, I don't even have access to that. My husband, a self employed builder, has been out of work since the bottom fell out of the housing market and Wall St took a nose dive. I am one who is looking at foreclosure right now. Not because we bought more house tha we could afford, but because the unemployment situation has rocked our world.

McCain doesn't want to help people like me. His idea of the government buying up mortgages is more socialist than anything else that I've heard. The government controls the banks, and now he wants to control our mortgages; our homes? I don't think having the US government as my landlord is a good idea. Put my husband back to work, and I will have no worries. Buy my book and I'll have fewer of them.

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Re: BCN NEWS SAY CALIFORNIA MAN FORECASTS OBAMA SYMPATHY VOTE
10/26/2008 10:50:05 AM

Trina,

I am sorry you fail to understand and accept fact,  By the way how many houses do you have?  The builders I know if they are any good make WAY MORE than $250,000.00 per year. 

 You fail to admit the Dems involvement in this atrocity.  I feel sorry for you if Obama is elected because you are going to be the most disenfranchised.

I don't understand why folks want government to take care of them.  That IS NOT the American way.

Jim

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10/26/2008 10:52:05 AM

Sam,

True Americans don't want someone deciding for them.  Very simple concept.  Liberals and the ACLU have taken God out of America, this is the problem.

Jim

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Re: BCN NEWS SAY CALIFORNIA MAN FORECASTS OBAMA SYMPATHY VOTE
10/26/2008 10:57:45 AM

Dear Trina why do you keep denying the facts.

This is a nice little chart to bring out the different points

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON

 TALKING POINTS


  

ISSUE

JOHN McCAIN

BARACK OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US

Yes

No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it

Yes

No

Served in the US Armed Forces

Yes

No

Amount of time served in the US Senate

22 YEARS

173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan

No

Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy

No

Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately

No

Yes

Supports gun ownership rights

Yes

No

Supports homosexual marriage

No

Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase

No

Yes

Voted against making English the official language

No

Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals

No

Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN

0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA

28% on profit from ALL home sales.  (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN

15% (no change)

OBAMA

39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN 
(no changes)

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)

Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN

- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA

Restore the inheritance tax 
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet.  New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity)  New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

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Re: BCN NEWS SAY CALIFORNIA MAN FORECASTS OBAMA SYMPATHY VOTE
10/26/2008 11:07:09 AM

Joe,

I have obtained permission of the author and the source. 

Jim,


Of course!

You would be most welcome to do that.

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Obama’s Trickle-Down Disaster Democratic Socialism 101

 By JB Williams  Saturday, October 25, 2008

(with the help of my son)
For the record, economic conditions don’t trickle up. They only trickle down…

If you don’t believe me, answer how long it took for the Democrat manufactured economic crisis on Wall Street to trickle down to Main Street? Good or bad, economic conditions always flow down hill. It’s gravity, stupid!

This is reality: economic conditions trickle down. Our only options therefore are these:

Do we want trickle down prosperity, or trickle down poverty?
Do we want trickle down freedom, or trickle down socialism?

Americans too young or too ill-educated to know that there is no “fairness” in socialism, aka communism-lite, or theft by quasi-democratic process, should spend a little time with my eleven year old son who already seems to grasp the difference between “freedom” and “free-stuff.”

Maybe a little Fifth Grade lesson in “mob rule” is in order here…

A Fifth Grade Lesson for Voters

From the mouths of babes – My son Joseph was dismayed by a few schoolmates who were regurgitating Obama campaign rhetoric on the school playground.

As a general rule, I answer my son’s social studies questions at homework time, but otherwise tell him that politics is not really for the fifth grade playground. Fifth graders can’t vote and they should really be focused upon simpler pleasures.

But he was very curious about this particular election and very disturbed by what seemed like obvious untruths to him. He had some good questions that deserved some honest answers… As is a habit of mine in such situations, I asked the questions so that he could come up with his own answers.

Question – What’s the difference between freedom and free-stuff?

Joseph – Freedom means I can be anything I want… There’s free-stuff? What kind of stuff is free?

Question – If you and two friends are visiting a fourth friends house and he has all kinds of cool stuff that none of you have, can the three of you simply take your “fair share” of his stuff so that you will all be equal?

Joseph – No… that would be stealing and not very nice!

Question – What if you all took a vote to decide what’s fair?

Joseph – That sounds fair…

Question – So three of you vote to divide up your friends stuff more evenly.

Joseph – Yeah…

Question – And the fourth friend, the one who owns all the cool stuff votes no?

Joseph – I would if I was him!

Question – Your friend just lost his cool stuff… You three outnumber him and by democratic process, you now have a right to your “fair share” of his stuff.

Joseph – But that’s not fair to him at all!

Question – But it was completely democratic. How could it not be fair?

Joseph – Didn’t our democracy just steal his freedom, and also his stuff?

Dad – That’s democracy! End of lesson…

Sadly, it seems that too many American voters have somehow lost sight of what my fifth grader was able to reason through, on his own. I guess common sense isn’t so common after all… at least beyond the fifth grade.

Intellectual elites aren’t overlooking such a simple common sense principle of freedom as well as cause and effect. They simply seek personal wealth and political power from promising to rob some Americans for the alleged benefit of other Americans.

And with pure democracy, what Thomas Jefferson referred to as “mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.” – any numerical majority can run roughshod over any remaining minority. Since most people are not “rich,” that makes “rich” folks the minority easiest to run-over, democratically of course.

There’s a reason why Obama and other leftist Democrats promise to tax only 5% of Americans. The reason is “mob rule.” If the other 95% of the people are willing to allow 5% of Americans to be robbed on their behalf by democratic process, then “the mob” will make sure that Obama has the power to do so, and Obama can count on their support on Election Day.

Fortunately, 95% of Americans are not yet that well-indoctrinated. Only about 50% are. But imagine Obama promising the opposite…

What if Obama was running on a platform of taxing 95% of Americans for benefit of the 5%? Could he get more than 5% of the vote on Election Day? Mob rule won’t work that way. You must pander to the mob, not the minority.

The BIGGEST Fly in Obama’s Marxist Ointment

Obama says he will only tax the top 5% of Americans making over $250,000 in order to “spread their wealth” to Obama’s supporters. It’s simple theft by quasi-democratic process, aka democratic socialism. McCain is right and Palin gave it the right name.

But according to the I.R.S. 5% of Americans don’t make above $250,000. In fact the top 5% of
Americans only make an average of $153,000 per year, well short of Obama’s $250,000 mark for his target definition of “rich.”

Since the top 5% only make 60% of what Obama claims they make, he can only raise at best 60% of the revenue projected to come from the top 5% of income earners.

What do you suppose will happen next?

To make up the shortfall, he will have to tax, at a minimum, the top 25% of Americans. That would be households making $64,000 or more. He will do this because he will have to in order to keep any of the promises he is making on the campaign trail today. But, who’s counting?

In case you don’t know, the top 25% of American wage earners currently pay more than 86.3% of all federal taxes collected in the country. According to Obama and friends, 86.3% is less than their “fair share” of the national tax burden. It seems to me that 25% of income should cover 25% of the burden, if we are talking “fairness”.

Now let’s not confuse “charity” with “tyranny” either. Most Americans are pretty generous with their own assets when it comes to carrying for others unable to care for themselves. No nation on earth is more generous.

But charity is the act of giving, of one self, with the consent of the giver. When you take from someone that which rightfully belongs to them, against their will, it is called theft. When you take by political process, that which belongs to others, it’s called tyranny, not “fairness.”

It’s not about “fairness” though, is it? – Tyranny is all about power!

Obama’s Trickle-Down Disaster

Obama isn’t selling trickle-down opportunity. Opportunity only exists in freedom.

He is selling trickle-down free-stuff and even my eleven year old son was wise enough to ask – “what kind of stuff is free?”

Obama’s Democratic (big “D”) Socialists aren’t selling trickle-down prosperity, they are selling trickle-down poverty.

There’s no such thing as “corporate tax.” Every last penny in “corporate tax” is passed on to consumers in “higher prices” - to employees in lower wages, lost benefits and lost employment. Corporate taxes “trickle-down.”

Wealth trickles-down in the form of increased investments, increased productivity and increased employment opportunities. Wealth “trickles-down.”

However, poverty also trickles-down. Removing earnings from productive people impairs investment and productivity, thereby trickling-down in the form of lost opportunities for others. Poverty “trickles-down” too.

When the potential for investment gain is penalized by excessive taxation, who will risk their bird in hand for, maybe, another bird in the bush? And when people won’t invest, how does an economy grow? This should be an easy one to answer as you watch investors flee from the market in record numbers day after day…

Obama’s New Jobs are Government Tax-Funded Jobs

With a federal government already bankrupt from excessive spending, how many more government jobs can taxpayers afford? Private sector jobs create prosperity. Government jobs attack private prosperity and suffocate everyone’s productivity and freedom.

Can you name a single federal program that has been run well and on-budget? There is no such program.

Our current financial crisis is the direct result of government greed, not corporate greed. It was government that forced lenders to make bad loans, in the name of “equality.” Now every home-owner is in equal trouble as housing values fall.

Throughout history, socialism and communism have failed everywhere they have been tried. That’s because people who can’t or won’t feed themselves, can’t feed anyone else.

When the nation that has fed the world for decades can no longer feed itself, then what?

My eleven year old son gets it. How can so many American voters miss it?

There is an easy answer to that question. Free-stuff comes without personal responsibility. Freedom is all about personal responsibility and personal responsibility is not nearly as attractive as the illusion of as free-stuff, particularly to those who have used their freedom unwisely.

For Obama supporters, the lie is simply more attractive than the truth.

I’m still working on this one with my eleven year old. But I bet he has it down before he’s old enough to vote!

Actually, maybe we should let eleven year olds vote before they have the common sense educated right out of them?


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JB Williams is a business man, a husband, a father, and a writer. A no nonsense commentator on American politics, American history, and American philosophy. He is published nationwide and in many countries around the world. JB Williams’ website is jb-williams.com/

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