Hi Lee,

Interesting topic and worth while discussing.

True bi-partisanship could be a thing of beauty but in most cases it boils down to self interest of the parties involved. Not necessarily for the good of the "people" but to find temporary favor in the eyes of their voters and to eventually line their own pockets in one way or another.

Finding a politician that is there "for the people" is like looking for a needle in a haystack. There are a few but not enough to cause the desired change within the present system.

Shalom,

Peter

Interesting,

In my opinion, the whole two party system is corrupt, so if we held a vote on which party was the most corrupt, we would still not be able to answer the question for they are both equally to blame.

There are no poor politicians, this we know, and most are millionaires plus, then we know, but what really stinks is when they can hide behind pork barrel issues while lobbiests can line their piggybanks with donations to campaigns where they can all legally tap money for whatever reason they can justify as an expense, meaning everything.

It is obvious we need change, but from an empty suit politician, who could really believe anything these self serving liars have to say?  We have all been lied to from start, on every important issue, yet all we have a choice to vote for is another bobble head politician. Public is finally a little smarter, just look at the approval ratings of congress, surely will be less than 10% by they end of this current election season. lol

Good luck to all, Mike

Both parties are only interested in getting reelected. Everyone that is in the senate and house should be voted out and 4 years later they should be voted out. Then we might get back to government by the people.

Hello Joelee and Friends.

     JoeLee, you have brought up a very interesting question about bi-partisanship. How many times have we seen such a concerted effort on the part of congress to pass a bill that actually did something " for the people ". They can't muster an ounce of bipartisanship when it comes to veterans benefits, health care, vote fraud. They come together nicely though when it is time to fleece the flock.

   Mike made an excellant point when he stated that    " the whole two party system is corrupt ". As long as we keep believing that at any given time, at least one of the parties is for the people, we will continue to live our lives at the mecry of both parties.

    With regard to the Big Bailout, two things come to mind.  " The Con " and " Extortion "

    Just about everybody knows about the con man and how he persuades people to hand over their money for the sake of either saving more money or actually making money.

    Extortion is a bit more complex. Here are two definitions of extortion. Can we see any of the elements of extortion present in the bail out package. I believe we can if we look close enough. Close as in Neon Sign From 2 feet away.

EXTORTION - The use, or the express or implicit threat of the use, of violence or other criminal means to cause harm to person, reputation, or property as a means to obtain property from someone else with his consent. USC 18

The Hobbs Act defines "extortion" as "the obtaining of property from another, with his consent, induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right." 18 U.S.C. S 1951(b)(2).

Sincerely, Billdaddy