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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
11/16/2008 3:14:00 AM

Dear Meshugeneh friends,

This post will be in a more serious vein then many of the other posts I made here . I'm using this platform for reasons that will be obvious a bit later but also for the flurry of what I can only label hate in the guise of love that started cos of actions and deeds of others against this great forum.

I have been accused of many things in the past few days and I will elaborate about a few of then in this post. The major one being the claim that I attacked other members in posts of mine. In answer to that claim I challenge anyone to find a post that I attacked them that wasn't instigated by attacks against me or others I hold dear. I am proud that I am able to have a discussion with those I disagree with in a respectful manner as it should be. So please be my guests and accept the challenge.

There have been many half truths written in the past few days including those in posts that were supposed to be conciliatory but in fact were meant to inflame and incite other like minded people to come out in force and add their "love" to the game. I wonder why people never bother to check the sources of things that were posted but accept the version of the instigator.

Another very questionable tactic is to attack others when they know in advance that the attacked can't reply cos they were conveniently BANNED from the forum. This an action of weak and fearful people that know they can say what they wish and won't be rebutted cos they censored the "culprit". How pathetic is that???

OK, here are a few excerpts of PMs I received in the past few days.  I won't give them all and there are many but only ones that will show their true carachter and not the public image they profess to.

1. "Your an Idiot Peter, it shows in the forum s you posty in, hence PETERS MAKING FRIENDS". Well, the forum this person is referring to is this forum and I accept the insult as praise cos I think we have a great family here and I respect the intellect, honesty and understanding of each and every one you.

2. He further wrote:  "and no i dont understand the silliness of that humor you call, if it doesnt help others? then why sould i be involved, thats how i look at things"  It's obvious he doesn't understand the humor but what I don't understand is why he continues to post here?? Hmmm, interesting question I think but we're smart enough to read between the lines since we are after all Meshugenehs!

3. Now the next quote is actually very revealing and also in a way frightening. You'll soon understand my meaning. "in my eyes Peter your a bully, there for a bully in God's eyes". Now this is very revealing is't it??? It seems like this person thinks that God is his servant and not the opposite. Frightening isn't it. Or are we just lucky to have someone like him walking amongst us???? What do you think??

Now as to Sara's accusations of my being adverse and attacking. You all saw the post that caused the banning. I believe it was written in a perfectly respectful manner but I guess different people think differently or were just looking for an opportunity to do what she did whether it made sense or not. I've never attacked Sara!!!!! Quite the opposite. What she showed as the supposed "cause" in her thread when she attacked AnaMaria I tried to calm every thing down in the thread and via PMs. It's all there for everyone to see if they bothered to check the sources but they accepted half truths and  innuendos. How sad is that? BTW, our PM correspondence is still saved where she readily admits that she was to blame and apologized. Unfortunately she wasn't able to let it go and carry on she kept on harping on the topic in many other forums and now I guess she thinks she is getting her revenge!!??

I guess that's all for now. I apologize for using our meshugeneh forum to air my position but as I said previously I've been BANNED and censored and am not able to reply at the source.

Once again my sincere apologies for burdening you with this post.

Shalom,

Peter

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11/16/2008 3:16:16 AM

Dear Lilly,

Please feel free to delete this post if you prefer it not being here. I will understand and accept any decision you make.

Shalom,

Peter

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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
11/16/2008 7:51:06 AM
My Dear Meshugeneh friends
I feel sad to read Peter's post. I have been away for a couple of days helping out my friend with her computer.  I say this with all my heart do not allow a few," bad apples to destroy" what we have started here!!

Lilly my dear,
 I am so happy you decided not to leave us. I would miss you way too much. It seems the the green monster of envy is alive an well amongst some of the people here in ALP. They would not attack you if they did not have a jealous heart. For to know you is to love you. Do not let them affect you but consider the source is from an unloving hearts. I look at those kinds of peoples  like a well of water we cannot get  fresh water and bitter water from the same well. Those kinds are immature , unloving and full of bitterness they want everyone around them to share in their misery, pay them no mind and leave them to their own destruction.

Peter,
We know that many of those that do not understand the G-d of Abraham, Issac and Jacob have puffed up knowledge in their hearts and heads  and are full of conceit and decieved, they do not want to serve G-d but to be him. They actually believe they are doing his will and his work but in truth they do not know him at all. Evil has  displayed itself as "light" since the fall of Satan when he rebelled against the Most High in his attempt to take over. Nothing has changed Evil is still Evil parading around as good. Consider the source. We that care about you know you, for the rest I say again them to their own destruction. G-d knows all and sees all does he not?

HUGS AND BLESSINGS TO ALL ,
Geketa
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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
11/16/2008 8:50:29 AM

Peter, Geketa, Lilly and all,

I posted at my forum last night that I should have to make a little break from Adland.

I can now write an expertize in several directions, from psychological, sociological, philosophers until religious ... (I have professional skills to do that, being a graduated professor of Philosophy and Psychology) but I don`t like to waste my time any more.

Peter, thank you for posting this VERY DETAILED :) post, eve though it is not funny at all.

Funny is .... (don`t know to say it in English :) :) :) ) ... Where`s Joe ? He became better in Serbian :) and could be a very helpful now :) .(Now I am not telling the truth :) , but didn`t praise him for a loooong time, and just miss doing that. )

Funny are just words of apologies posted after merciless and so superficial attacks. Geketa is so right: I may read between lines : they are jealous, and nothing else. Those poor people so often repeats word "God" and word "love" , but God originated them to act this way, and I have no objections.

Sad thing is that I know who I am (supreme one, of course :) :) :) ) and simply, I cann`t help those who think differently, or maybe think they know better than me who I am.

And for you, who cann`t than believe me, because your hearts are alive and you just love me, even though you are aware how much supreme I am (not) :) :) :) ... I will be back, after having a few days of rest.

All that will be free to cut the excerpts of this post, trying to snitch a little of my energy, now would be kindly asked to think once, twice or more. Because, each time we speak of others, we speak of ourselves :) .

Who has eyes to see, may see and who has ears to hear, may hear :) .

Meshuganeh Supremely Hugs to all who share and who snitch energy :) !

Branka

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: SIMPLY, AND AT NO COST - BE HEALTHY LOSING WEIGHT !!!!
11/16/2008 9:01:09 AM

Hello My Meshugeneh Friends,

Meshugeneh AnaMaria I loved your post. The quotations hit the spot and were dead on.

My favorite was the last one:

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant"
~ Robert McCloskey ~

WOW!!!!! Doesn't that just describe so many things that happened lately???? But on a more pleasant note it's definitely one that we all can learn from. Especially in a society where so many speak different languages and sometimes are forced to write in a language that isn't their mother tongue.

Didn't Oscar Wilde hit the nail on the head with his quote too. And I'll close this post with that quote. It really is one to ponder.

"Everybody who is incapable of learning has taken to teaching.”
~ Oscar Wilde ~

Shalom,

Peter 

 

 


 

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