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Re: What Do You Believe
7/24/2008 1:32:17 PM
Hello Thomas,

Maybe you should read Nick's post again and your bible, because Heaven will be on earth.  Please don't be misled by misinterpretation of the written word.  Everyone that has ever lived and sinned will be given a chance at redemption.  Please be sure to watch the movie again, the one with William Defoe not the travesty that Mel Gibson made.

Jim

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Re: What Do You Believe
7/24/2008 3:34:32 PM
Another Hollywood story Jim? Which movie is accurate to you?? As a Disciple of Christ Jim the Word of God is the seed of his kingdom ( Luke 8:11). and when we plant it in the hearts of people today, it will produce exactly the church that my Rabbi Jesus built. Heaven on earth is made by His people Jim, the fellowship of believers. Jesus is the head of his one body (Ephesians 1:22-23; 2:16; 4:4), and he promised to save all those who are in that one body (Ephesians 5:23). I teach this to my church on Sundays Jim, 1500 county wide. Now what Nick has done he has made a nice thread for us to ponder on. I didnt read anything about no Hollywood movie did you? This is my purpose from God to me is to teach others and save the lost. Its up to you to follow! If not? thats your choice but atleast i done my job in informing the puplic what my Rabbi really wants from you. Good day. Thanks Nick God_bless you guys.
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Re: What Do You Believe
7/24/2008 6:05:46 PM
Hello Dear Bettie !

I was told a long time ago by a very old man that he indeed believed in God but the story of Jesus Christ was just an ordinary man at the right place, at the right time. There are billions of brothers and sisters on this "Blue Marble" that have their own beliefs which others might take offense. Bottom line, respect and love others as you would want to be respected and loved, no matter what color, race, or belief !


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Re: What Do You Believe
7/24/2008 6:25:30 PM
Hello Jill My Dear Friend !

I can see the strength of your character in your picture and I hope you never change. I posted this forum because some people take the bible as word for word and not as a guide. There are so many that do not realize that religion has made so many changes throughout the years and I think some would be shocked if the knowledge that is easily available was put in front of them !

What is the origin of the Catholic Church?



Constantine found that with the Roman Empire being so vast, expansive, and diverse – not everyone would agree to forsake their religious beliefs and instead embrace Christianity. So, Constantine allowed, and even promoted, the “Christianization” of pagan beliefs. Completely pagan and utterly unbiblical beliefs were given new “Christian” identities. Some clear examples of this are as follows:

(1) The Cult of Isis, an Egyptian mother-goddess religion, was absorbed into Christianity by replacing Isis with Mary. Many of the titles that were used for Isis, such as “Queen of Heaven,” “Mother of God,” and “theotokos” (God-bearer) were attached to Mary. Mary was given an exalted role in the Christian faith, far beyond what the Bible ascribes to her, in order to attract Isis worshippers to a faith they would not otherwise embrace. Many temples to Isis were, in fact, converted into temples dedicated to Mary. The first clear hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship.

(2) Mithraism was a religion in the Roman Empire in the 1st through 5th centuries A.D. It was very popular among the Romans, especially among Roman soldiers, and was possibly the religion of several Roman emperors. While Mithraism was never given “official” status in the Roman empire, it was the de-facto official religion until Constantine and succeeding Roman emperors replaced Mithraism with Christianity. One of the key features of Mithraism was a sacrificial meal, which involved eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a bull. Mithras, the god of Mithraism, was “present” in the flesh and blood of the bull, and when consumed, granted salvation to those who partook of the sacrificial meal (theophagy, the eating of one’s god). Mithraism also had seven “sacraments,” making the similarities between Mithraism and Roman Catholicism too many to ignore. Constantine and his successors found an easy substitute for the sacrificial meal of Mithraism in concept of the Lord’s Supper / Christian Communion. Sadly, some early Christians had already begun to attach mysticism to the Lord’s Supper, rejecting the Biblical concept of a simple and worshipful remembrance of Christ’s death and shed blood. The Romanization of the Lord’s Supper made the transition to a sacrificial consumption of Jesus Christ, now known as the Catholic Mass / Eucharist, complete.

(3) Most Roman emperors (and citizens) were henotheists. A henotheist is one who believes in the existence of many gods, but focuses primary on one particular god, or considers one particular god supreme over the other gods. For example, the Roman god Jupiter was supreme over the Roman pantheon of gods. Roman sailors were often worshippers of Neptune, the god of the oceans. When the Catholic Church absorbed Roman paganism, it simply replaced the pantheon of gods with the saints. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these, and many other categories. Just as many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, so the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for the cities.

(4) The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. With the city of Rome being the center of government for the Roman empire, and with the Roman emperors living in Rome, the city of Rome rose to prominence in all facets of life. Constantine, and his successors, gave their support to the bishop of Rome as the supreme ruler of the church. Of course it is best for the unity of the Roman empire that the government and state religion be centered in the same location. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. When the Roman empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors – Pontificus Maximus.

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Re: What Do You Believe
7/24/2008 6:33:50 PM

Dear Sweet Nick: A short poem for you!

 

In this troubled world it's refreshing to find

Someone who still takes the time to be kind

Someone who's ready by thought, word or deed

To reach out a hand in the hour of need.

 

That person is you Nick!

"He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will reward him for what he has done.  Proverbs 19:17 niv

 

 

 

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