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Re: COMMUNION AS AN ADVANCED RELATIOSHIP
7/30/2007 11:15:33 PM

Hello Bruce

   Sometimes people become anxious to differ with others opinions prior to really understanding the opinions being offered. I think this may be the case here.

   With regard to any statements that I made in reference to anyones incentive to believe in God, I must point out that it was not a stated fact but, merely the presentation of a possibility. A possibility is neither fact nor fiction and therefore cannot be differed with.

   Now, had I said that" you" only believe in God because" you" are afraid of the consequences of not believing in God, then you would have a statement presented as fact and that could be differed with. I am not here to debate. I have merely offered my thoughts as possibilities.

   Here is a statement that you may want to differ with. I believe that the God you believe in is the God that you were taught to believe in by other people. Had you never been taught about God and had never heard of the bible, who would be your God then? I think it is a possibility that that God would be much different than the God you profess to believe in now.

  The Greeks have many Gods. Is your God truer than all of theirs. Is your God more real than theirs? Would you worship many gods had you been born Greek?

   In my experience I have come to believe that religion divides and God unites. This is why I separate religion from spirituality. This is also why I do not quote scripture in order to support what I believe is the real God. This would be yet another example of the Communion Of Eternity.

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Re: COMMUNION AS AN ADVANCED RELATIOSHIP
7/31/2007 12:42:12 AM

Hello Neil,

Your contribution at this topic is just incredible. I`ll confess you something what can sound funny, but it is not funny at all.

Your post is impossible to read just like this : to read it. Ah, what kind of thinker and writer you are! I need to adjust all things around my PC to be in resonance with this energy! To light some candles, to clean and dust the whole space, to find a special table cloth and to play required music. But, this music was not played at our dimension yet. Anyway - it is here and I`d like to share it with others.

NEIL - NEIL!

I am amazed with this subject - object relationship. NEIL - NEIL. Fantastic!

This my response is just to tell you my big thank you - your words are received. I`ll come back with all what they have generated within my subject - object relationship.

Now just to underline this statement :

" In conclusion, find another with the capacity to love at the same degree as you can. Respect and appreciation will be a two way street ON THE SAME LEVEL… thus neither party will “burn out "

And to confess you : AT LAST - I HAVE FOUND! My two way street ON THE SAME LEVEL just has been discovered. AND YES - you gave the only one true description of it. Now I am happy because I have never learned Geography. It is not about configuration of any space - but all is of resonance and love.

See you very soon, thank you!

Branka

 

 

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Re: COMMUNION AS AN ADVANCED RELATIOSHIP
7/31/2007 12:52:33 AM
Hello William,

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I am not here to debate. I have merely offered my thoughts as possibilities."

No debate required. I merely replied to your expressed possibilities.

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Had you never been taught about God and had never heard of the bible, who would be your God then?"

He would still be God. Before the foundations of the earth,  He knew that I would know Him, and provided His Word, in the Flesh and in the Book, so that I would be His.

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The Greeks have many Gods. Is your God truer than all of theirs."

YES!

"Is your God more real than theirs?"

YES!

"Would you worship many gods had you been born Greek?"

Perhaps, until I heard the Gospel, preached to the Jews and the Gentiles, alike, so that none should perish, but have life ever-lasting.

You may be aware that the author of the Gospel of Luke was a Greek Physician.

Thank you for asking.

IHS,

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Re: COMMUNION AS AN ADVANCED RELATIOSHIP
7/31/2007 1:18:19 AM
Speaking of communion:

1 Corinthians 11:

 16But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

 17Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse.

 18For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.

 19For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

 20When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

 21For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.

 22What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? what shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

 23For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

 24And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

 25After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

 26For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.


 27Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

 28But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

 29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

 30For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

 31For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

 32But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

 33Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.

 34And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.

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William, one comment I forgot to make regarding:

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In my experience I have come to believe that religion divides and God unites."

You also stated you don't like to quote scripture. As you can see, I do, and I answer you with one now (I bolded the verses I originally intended to post, if you don't feel like reading the entire chapter, just scroll down. It's such a good chapter, I included it all. Coincidentally, it was written by the aforementioned Greek, Luke.)

Luke 12

 1In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

 2For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.

 3Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

 4And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

 5But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

 6Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?

 7But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.

 8Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

 9But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.

 10And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

 11And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:

 12For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

 13And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me.

 14And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?

 15And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

 16And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:

 17And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?

 18And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.

 19And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

 20But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

 21So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

 22And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on.

 23The life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment.

 24Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?

 25And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit?

 26If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least, why take ye thought for the rest?

 27Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

 28If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith?

 29And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind.

 30For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.

 31But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.

 32Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

 33Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

 34For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

 35Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;

 36And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

 37Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

 38And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

 39And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

 40Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

 41Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?

 42And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

 43Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

 44Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

 45But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

 46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

 47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

 48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

 49I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

 50But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

 51Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

 52For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

 53The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

 54And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.

 55And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass.

 56Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?

 57Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?

 58When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou art in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison.

 59I tell thee, thou shalt not depart thence, till thou hast paid the very last mite.


IHS,


Bruce
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P.S. -  Its not my intention  to pick on you, William.  You just happened to  post  a  thing or two that caught my attention.


For the record, there  was a post about the Law of Attraction which also gave me pause for thought.  I  chose to address that  in another location. If anyone is interested, see:


http://community.adlandpro.com/forums/thread/755118.aspx
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Re: COMMUNION AS AN ADVANCED RELATIOSHIP
7/31/2007 1:28:16 AM

Hello Rajaram,

You are so welcomed here and I thank you for this so valuable contribution.

My attention was centred at possible relationship between BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD OF ONE AND ALL ON THIS PLANET and COMMUNION. Do you mean a Communion is the same or it is the next level of BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD?

Please tell us a little more. Passing through our posts I was looking for visible signs that we, with all our differences, see or can imagine a communion as a desired state. I am preparing, from my part, something what we can call configuration for community but I delay to post it waiting for enough signs and thoughts.

Looking forward to see you back, I bless you and embrace you with love of my soul!

Sincerely,

Branka

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