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Re: Good News ,Goodbye To A Tyrant? 59 years
2/29/2008 12:03:10 AM

Hello Thomas and Friends

     I have to make a correction to something I posted here earlier. I stated that The U.S. had the largest percentage of it's population behind bar of any country in the civilized world. That statement is misleading. We have more prosoners than any other country in the world weather civilized or not.

   Now, I ask you. Is this because we are a nation with a higher percentage of bad people or, do we have a government that simply locks up more people than other countries. Either way, somethng is very wrong.

     Please don't get me wrong. I love this country and I am a proud American. However, I am not proud of the direction that we are headed in. There are many problems here that need to be addressed. Serious problems within our government. Within our corporate and social structures and, within our education system. Yes, we have a lot of work to do before we can earn the right to criticize other countries .

 

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    One in 100 Americans in Prison: Study
    The Globe and Mail Canada

    Thursday 28 February 2008

    For the first time in history, more than one in every 100 American adults is in jail or prison, according to a new report tracking the surge in inmate population and urging states to rein in corrections costs with alternative sentencing programs.

    The report, released Thursday by the Pew Center on the States, said the 50 states spent more than $49 billion on corrections last year, up from less than $11 billion 20 years earlier. The rate of increase for prison costs was six times greater than for higher education spending, the report said.

    Using updated state-by-state data, the report said 2,319,258 adults were held in U.S. prisons or jails at the start of 2008 - one out of every 99.1 adults, and more than any other country in the world.

    The steadily growing inmate population "is saddling cash-strapped states with soaring costs they can ill afford and failing to have a clear impact either on recidivism or overall crime," said the report.

    Susan Urahn, managing director of the Pew Center on the States, said budget woes are prompting officials in many states to consider new, cost-saving corrections policies that might have been shunned in the recent past for fear of appearing soft in crime.

    "We're seeing more and more states being creative because of tight budgets," she said in an interview. "They want to be tough on crime, they want to be a law-and-order state - but they also want to save money, and they want to be effective."

    The report cited Kansas and Texas as states which have acted decisively to slow the growth of their inmate population. Their actions include greater use of community supervision for low-risk offenders and employing sanctions other than re-imprisonment for ex-offenders who commit technical violations of parole and probation rules.

    "The new approach, born of bipartisan leadership, is allowing the two states to ensure they have enough prison beds for violent offenders while helping less dangerous lawbreakers become productive, taxpaying citizens," the report said.

    According to the report, the inmate population increased last year in 36 states and the federal prison system.

    The largest percentage increase - 12 percent - was in Kentucky, where Gov. Steve Beshear highlighted the cost of corrections in his budget speech last month. He noted that the state's crime rate had increased only about 3 percent in the past 30 years, while the state's inmate population has increased by 600 percent.

    The Pew report was compiled by the Center on the State's Public Safety Performance Project, which is working directly with 13 states on developing programs to divert offenders from prison without jeopardizing public safety.

    "For all the money spent on corrections today, there hasn't been a clear and convincing return for public safety," said the project's director, Adam Gelb. "More and more states are beginning to rethink their reliance on prisons for lower-level offenders and finding strategies that are tough on crime without being so tough on taxpayers."

    The report said prison growth and higher incarceration rates do not reflect a parallel increase in crime or in the nation's overall population. Instead, it said, more people are behind bars mainly because of tough sentencing measures, such as "three-strikes" laws, that result in longer prison stays.

    "For some groups, the incarceration numbers are especially startling," the report said. "While one in 30 men between the ages of 20 and 34 is behind bars, for black males in that age group the figure is one in nine."

    The nationwide figures, as of Jan. 1, include 1,596,127 people in state and federal prisons and 723,131 in local jails - a total 2,319,258 out of almost 230 million American adults.

    The report said the United States is the world's incarceration leader, far ahead of more populous China with 1.5 million people behind bars. It said the U.S. also is the leader in inmates per capita (750 per 100,000 people), ahead of Russia (628 per 100,000) and other former Soviet bloc nations which make up the rest of the Top 10.

 
 
 
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    One in 100 Americans in Prison: Study
    The Globe and Mail Canada

    Thursday 28 February 2008

    For the first time in history, more than one in every 100 American adults is in jail or prison, according to a new report tracking the surge in inmate population and urging states to rein in corrections costs with alternative sentencing programs.

    The report, released Thursday by the Pew Center on the States, said the 50 states spent more than $49 billion on corrections last year, up from less than $11 billion 20 years earlier. The rate of increase for prison costs was six times greater than for higher education spending, the report said.

    Using updated state-by-state data, the report said 2,319,258 adults were held in U.S. prisons or jails at the start of 2008 - one out of every 99.1 adults, and more than any other country in the world.

    The steadily growing inmate population "is saddling cash-strapped states with soaring costs they can ill afford and failing to have a clear impact either on recidivism or overall crime," said the report.

    Susan Urahn, managing director of the Pew Center on the States, said budget woes are prompting officials in many states to consider new, cost-saving corrections policies that might have been shunned in the recent past for fear of appearing soft in crime.

    "We're seeing more and more states being creative because of tight budgets," she said in an interview. "They want to be tough on crime, they want to be a law-and-order state - but they also want to save money, and they want to be effective."

    The report cited Kansas and Texas as states which have acted decisively to slow the growth of their inmate population. Their actions include greater use of community supervision for low-risk offenders and employing sanctions other than re-imprisonment for ex-offenders who commit technical violations of parole and probation rules.

    "The new approach, born of bipartisan leadership, is allowing the two states to ensure they have enough prison beds for violent offenders while helping less dangerous lawbreakers become productive, taxpaying citizens," the report said.

    According to the report, the inmate population increased last year in 36 states and the federal prison system.

    The largest percentage increase - 12 percent - was in Kentucky, where Gov. Steve Beshear highlighted the cost of corrections in his budget speech last month. He noted that the state's crime rate had increased only about 3 percent in the past 30 years, while the state's inmate population has increased by 600 percent.

    The Pew report was compiled by the Center on the State's Public Safety Performance Project, which is working directly with 13 states on developing programs to divert offenders from prison without jeopardizing public safety.

    "For all the money spent on corrections today, there hasn't been a clear and convincing return for public safety," said the project's director, Adam Gelb. "More and more states are beginning to rethink their reliance on prisons for lower-level offenders and finding strategies that are tough on crime without being so tough on taxpayers."

    The report said prison growth and higher incarceration rates do not reflect a parallel increase in crime or in the nation's overall population. Instead, it said, more people are behind bars mainly because of tough sentencing measures, such as "three-strikes" laws, that result in longer prison stays.

    "For some groups, the incarceration numbers are especially startling," the report said. "While one in 30 men between the ages of 20 and 34 is behind bars, for black males in that age group the figure is one in nine."

    The nationwide figures, as of Jan. 1, include 1,596,127 people in state and federal prisons and 723,131 in local jails - a total 2,319,258 out of almost 230 million American adults.

    The report said the United States is the world's incarceration leader, far ahead of more populous China with 1.5 million people behind bars. It said the U.S. also is the leader in inmates per capita (750 per 100,000 people), ahead of Russia (628 per 100,000) and other former Soviet bloc nations which make up the rest of the Top 10.

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Re: Good News ,Goodbye To A Tyrant? 59 years
2/29/2008 9:58:43 AM
Thanks Billdaddy, goodmorning Adland folk, I believe here in America we have to much freedom, what i mean by that is that our local laws have given us way to much consideration in our judicial system, so its no wonder we have the most people locked up in prisons. Thanks for all you info Pops, it gives me a better understanding of politics around the globe. :)
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Re: Good News ,Goodbye To A Tyrant? 59 years
2/29/2008 11:19:36 AM
Hi Thomas and good morning ,

After reading your last post I just had to come back and toss my opinion out lol  you said
"I believe here in America we have to much freedom, what i mean by that is that our local laws have given us way to much consideration in our judicial system, so its no wonder we have the most people locked up in prisons."

Here in the US we have what is called a democracy  that is suppose to be a government run by the people for the people not by the government . When the government has sole control it becomes tyranny . The cost of freedom is giving everyone the right to choose some make wrong or bad choices. A G-d given right is the right to choose.

I personally don't think we have nearly enough freedom as we once had when this country was founded; they snip a little freedom away with each new amendment they make in Washington .

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Re: Good News ,Goodbye To A Tyrant? 59 years
2/29/2008 11:46:20 AM
Hello Geketa, if people would make the right decisions on the amendments there voting on and really understand the re-procussions for which they are voting on then i think we would be in much a mess as it is? I over see the voting here in San Diego county North coast and i see so many people not really knowing what there doing as hey come up to me and ask, i see alot of young people now as i did when i first started 8 years ago, but again the understanding of the policys are not clear enough for a person to understand, some policys take up two pages. If people cant correct there policy behavior how can the governments do there jobs correctly? were all human, we all make mistakes, but we must really know what we are doing to get the results that we need to acheive more civilized freedoms. I also believe in that you pay for your mistakes. I also believe that if you dont vote, you dont have a right to complain. Like paying taxes , paying your bills, providing living expenses for your family, these things are all first prioritys agree? so without one or the other how can we take things not for granted as it is a ruetene and so it goes to carelessness and from there breaking laws. We have to get out of that and start getting into the heart of the issues. This year marks the first of 3 elections in the same year, lets just hope we know what were doing come June election.  Thanks for the reply Geketa and your thoughts! :) God_bless you.
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