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Re: Please say a Prayer. Thank you - Santa Ana Winds
10/23/2007 12:25:48 PM
I don't mean this in a flippant way-but it really looks like Mother Nature is annoyed with the whole lot of us!
We're getting it all-fires, floods, droughts, pestilence, new diseases.
Since we can't figure out how to get along with each other she won't get along with us either.
Be nice to someone today-Make Mother Nature happy.
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Re: Please say a Prayer. Thank you - Santa Ana Winds
10/23/2007 12:34:07 PM
Thank you for your comments. The first person that needs to be nice is being nice to yourself, being forgiving and letting God take control, its essencial for us to take Jesus my rabbi litterally, natural disasters happen due to the fact of were not taking care of ourselves in a global sense, peace and love is in the past if you think humanisticly, keep the Faith my young friend! Repent and be baptized as the apostle Paul commanded from my Lord Jesus Christ. Being nice to each other is good but its a far fetch idea if you dont have the love in your heart to do so.
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Re: San Diego Fire update
10/23/2007 8:26:34 PM

SAN DIEGO (Reuters) - Towering wildfires burned out of control across Southern California for a third day on Tuesday as 500,000 people fled the San Diego area and firefighters made a desperate stand to save a mountain town ringed by flames.

More than a dozen fires blazed from the horse country north of Los Angeles to the Mexican border 150 miles south, torching more than 1,500 houses and other buildings, blotting out the sun with smoke and raining ash on the streets.

Most of the destroyed homes were in the southern end of the state near San Diego, where three major wildfires burned unchecked and half a million people were ordered to evacuate to beat the flames, some 8,000 taking refuge in a football stadium.

Two deaths have been reported and more than three dozen had been injured, including 18 firefighters.

As the firestorms raged, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said 68,000 homes were threatened statewide and 6,000 men and women were manning the fire lines, sometimes hunkering down in fire shelters when shifting winds trapped them.

"We have had three things come together -- very dry areas, very hot weather and a lot of wind. This makes the perfect storm for fire," Schwarzenegger said at Lake Arrowhead, where blazes threatened two nearby mountain communities.

Both Schwarzenegger and San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders put the number of evacuees at half a million.

President George W. Bush declared a state of emergency for much of California and authorized the Federal Emergency Management Agency to coordinate disaster relief. Bush planned to visit the fire-stricken area on Thursday.

Running Springs, a town of about 5,000 people nestled in the San Bernardino Mountains, was surrounded by fire by Tuesday afternoon as crews made a furious effort to save several thousand homes.

Firefighters in the Mexican border city of Tecate tried to control fires that sent up black smoke and covered houses and cars with gray ash. Fires also burned on the outskirts of the Mexican city of Tijuana, 20 miles from San Diego.

OFFICIALS DECLARE POWER EMERGENCY

California power authorities issued a transmission emergency because downed power lines had left San Diego with only 60 percent of its usual supply of electricity.

The hot Santa Ana winds, which have fanned the flames as they blow in to Southern California from the desert, continued to gust up to 65 mph (105 kph) and high wind warnings remained in effect for most of the region until Wednesday afternoon.

Sanders told people to "stay at home, stay off the freeways" so fire crews and evacuees could keep moving as the winds changed course. All San Diego schools and many businesses were closed for the week.

Officials were hoping that easing winds and an accompanying rise in humidity would help them gain the upper hand against the wildfires.

But on Tuesday afternoon a new, 1,000-acre (405-hectare) fire had erupted at Camp Pendleton, one of the largest Marine bases in the United States and home to 60,000 people. The flames were within seven miles of Southern California Edison's oceanside San Onofre nuclear power plant.

So far, the fire "does not pose a threat or danger to our facility, our employees or the ability to operate the plant," Edison spokesman Gil Alexander said.

More than 300,000 acres have been blackened, an area about twice the size of Chicago, stretching fire crews and state emergency services to their limits.

San Diego officials said people were cooperating and evacuating quickly, resulting in minimal loss of life. In the region's last major fire in 2003, 15 people died and 5,000 buildings were destroyed.

But Erica Schmidt said friends in San Diego county ignored evacuation orders to safeguard their own homes.

"It bothers me to know my friends are still up there because they can't get out. All the roads are closed," Schmidt.

Some 8,000 people, including senior citizens from nursing homes, went to the Qualcomm stadium, where the San Diego Chargers football team plays, or to the Del Mar Fairgrounds, famed for its horse racing track. Thousands of horses and family pets were also accommodated.

People who sought shelter at Qualcomm said the operation was well organized and clean, in contrast to the chaos at New Orleans' Superdome, which was used as a refuge after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

On Tuesday afternoon, some San Diego evacuees were allowed to return to their communities.

The state insurance commissioner, Steve Poizner, said the fires have likely caused several hundred million dollars worth of damage to homes and businesses.

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Re: San Diego Fire update
10/24/2007 12:36:55 AM

Thank you Thomas, for posting this information here as to how the wildfires are in southern California!

On Jan 1, 2006 a wildfire came within about 3 miles of our house here in Texas as many of our neighbors lost their homes, barns, fields of baled hay (as well as what was still in the fields) and orchards, storage buildings, work shops, green houses, big rigs, expensive farm equipment, and chruch buildings!

I mention this because I don't have to go very for from our house now to still see the eerie aftermath of such disaster!

I'm with you in prayer for people who are going through this unforgettable trauma in their lives as these wildfires continue! 

We had to evacuate in 2006, but thankfully, although smoke did get into our house, we escaped without damage!

Please pray for me to have the ability and wisdom to know how to help my neighbors who didn't escape and who still have not come back to the financial status they were in before the fire!

Since the fire, we have had much more rain than usual and there has been flooding near some of the same areas that were affected by the fire!  Many homes have been lost or caused to be in ill repair due to flooding.

Is Mother Nature mad at us?

Well, personally I don't put my confidence in "Mother Nature" as much as I do in the God of creation, Our Father, Son, and Holy Spirit!

Some may accuse me of believing in three gods but I would answer, "No, He is One!"

Three inseparable persons (for the lack of a better term) but only One God Creator of all who holds all His creation together by the One by Whom it was created in the first place - Jesus Christ!

Now is He mad at us?

To that I would say that "Although He has every right to be, no He isn't!"

Does He, like any loving parent, want us to repent of our evil doing?

Of course He does! 

Does any loving parent sit back and enjoy watching their own children destroy themselves?

Why would we think any differently of Our Loving Heavenly Father?

So you see, all things really do work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to His purpose!

If we, as members of the human race, could only come to understand that we have all been called to work together for the good of His purpose instead of our own purpose, we would all be better off!

There is a proverb that says, "The fool has said in his heart there is no God."

In my opinion, only a fool would also say that God has no knowledge of what is going on in southern California right now!  I would also hasten to add that He is probably not taking any more pleasure in it than the rest of us!

I would also add to that, that what is going on may not be just for the benefit of those who are nearest to the flames but for a test to see what kind of Godly acts are those of us who are farther away going to accomplish by seeing our fellow human brothers and sisters and their families who are suffering!  How are we going to react?

It is not unusual for various churches to pitch in and help others in situations like this!  I know that our denomination has an "emergency fund" in place to help each other out in cases of emergency!

But that brings up something else!  Church attendance is way down, does that mean anything?

Do you suppose that all or most of those people who are not attending the church of their choice are sending in contributions nevertheless?

If there is a lack of funds in the "emergency fund" till, whose fault is it?

If there are not enough funds available to help those who have not been contributing, what can we do about that?

I'm certainly not saying that those who attend church are any better in God's eyes than those who don't, but I will say that it gives those of us who do attend church a good opportunity to reach out to those who don't and give them a good taste of what they are missing out on and maybe after all the fires are put out we can see a need to build larger church buildings and invite people to come worship with us who were not as willing to before the fires!

These are just some of my thoughts for what they are worth, may God bless us all to do what he wants us to according to the gifts He has given to us!

Love and blessings to all,

J.V.

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Re: San Diego Fire update
10/24/2007 12:53:32 AM

Dear J.V.  sorry to hear that you wnt through almost the same situtaion and thank God you made it our alright, as for your Neighbores sake, my answer to is just to be there for them more presence of God sometimes without anywords to ones voice. No J.V. God is not angry he just wants us to wake up, to notce who's really in-charge. As a priest manytimes church issues come up like money or what is "the Church" and where is it? perhaps they can know more just looking through my "Encourage my Soul" forum . Thanks for the consern for us down here J.V. God_bless you friend.

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