Hey Old Coot,

Nearly 4 in the afternoon for ya. I'm just seeing daylight starting. And I lost my compass somewhere. I'll find it soon enough.

In a way my post is a rant, but, instead of just ranting I also showed the other side of the coin at what really to look for in a program advertising that claims "IGP". I tried to clarify this in my reply to Mary above.

It's more like saying 'I have a credit due me vs. I got the money now'.

Another part is showing that you don't need to be in someone's program to make money. Create your own products. and earn 100% of the sale.

Now, for your assistance. Let me say I never saw the 'call' until now. I will say to look at Willie Crawford's ebook found here:

http://www.fast-fast-money.com/

I can back up all claims on his program. You just have to follow the steps he outlines. And I am here to help.

Best of the day to ya

Another Old Coot - Kenneth

Hey Mary,

You make me smile. Sarcastic or not keep it coming.

You show another good example about the paying surf sites and then not getting paid. Even I was in one and I admit I lost $40.00 of my own money. All the credit I never got so I can't claim that I lost thousands. Did I learn? I learned a lot.

Are monograms no longer allowed (like LOL)? Hehehehe. May I try Igpay Atinlay?

Keep smiling

Kenneth

Well, it doesn't appear to me that the ebook really works because I never got paid.

Hi, Kenneth,

Now I see where you are coming from!

You'll have to forgive me but 5 out of 6 cylinders no longer spark!

I suppose I have several hundred dollars worth of sales on which I have not been paid - nor am I ever likely to be.

Why not?

Simply because I am to recruiting what Mickey Mouse is to Quantum Physics - and all the programmes only pay commissions after you have two, three or, in one case, five active members in your down line. This is a little clause that I over-looked in the TOS but I look very carefully for it now.

The annoying thing is that I learned, too late, of the proclivity for many people to join a programme directly, by removing affiliate IDs from promotional urls - but that, as they say, is probably another topic for another forum.

The Old Coot

Ok Old Coot,

That's ok. Thanks for sharing your story with us.

As for bypassing affiliates and links ... best to use a link masker or have a domain name of your own and set up a redirect to your affiliate page. That way you promote your own url. Can't bypass that.

Kenneth