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The Actress we all Love to hate... Jane Fonda...But its wrong to.
9/2/2007 10:43:55 AM

Jane Fonda was 12 years old when her mother checked into an asylum and killed herself there, slashing her throat. Her father, Henry Fonda, quickly remarried, and a woman who was only 10 years older than Jane became her stepmother. Yet by all accounts this stepmother, Susan Blanchard, grew marvelously into the role of mom, and within a few years the Fonda children were calling her "Mom-two". Their father divorced Blanchard when Jane Fonda was in her late teens.

At 17, Jane and her famous father co-starred in The Country Girl, a play staged for charity in Omaha. Prior to that she had shown little interest in acting, but after the performance, she decided that would be her career. Her father paid for her acting lessons, under noted tutor Lee Strasberg. After several stage appearances she made her Broadway debut in 1960 in There Was a Little Girl, with Gary Lockwood and Joey Heatherton. She was the leading lady in her first film, Tall Story, a romantic comedy co-starring a pre-Psycho Anthony Perkins.

After Ann-Margret turned down the role, Fonda was offered the lead in Cat Ballou, a comedic western that was one of 1965's biggest hits. For several years, she was a top star in light comedies like Barefoot in the Park with Robert Redford, and the sexy sci-fi schlock classic Barbarella for husband Roger Vadim. While she was married to Vadim, Fonda says he often sought other women, and brought them home for three-ways with Fonda. She participated, she says, because Vadim played on her insecurities, making her feel "less than perfect".

She won her first Oscar for Klute in 1971, and her father was quoted as saying, "How in hell would you like to have been in this business as long as I and have one of your kids win an Oscar before you do?"

She was a star before she was political, but after meeting several Vietnam veterans who had changed their minds about the war, Fonda began wondering why American soldiers were killing and dying in a tiny country's civil war half a world away. She became an anti-war activist, then worked for almost any leftist cause, including desegregation, women's rights, and environmental issues, until eventually she was known as much for her political stands as for her films. She visited Alcatraz during its siege by Native Americans in 1969, and thought Rev. Jim Jones was doing good work. She supported Huey Newton's campaign for Congress, and said the Black Panthers were "our revolutionary vanguard. We must support them with love, money, propaganda and risk". During the Vietnam war, Fonda toured America with her Klute co-star and real-life lover Donald Sutherland, staging a "guerilla theater" piece called FTA (for "Fuck the Army" or, when speaking with mainstream reporters, "Free the Army"). "If you understood what communism was", she said, "you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist". Jane Fonda

She took a two-week tour of Vietnam, but not like stars usually do during wars, visiting American troops to bolster their morale. Instead Fonda stayed with natives, visited the enemy's capital city, and famously posed for several photos at a Vietnamese anti-aircraft battery, as if she were shooting at incoming American planes. She met with eight pre-screened Americans who were being held as prisoners of war, and with cameras clicking and their guards watching, the prisoners unsurprisingly said they were being treated very well. When Fonda returned to America, she rather naïvely announced that the Vietnamese were treating all their American prisoners humanely. Years later, several of those American prisoners said they had been forced by their captors to meet with Fonda, for the propaganda value. A few Americans held prisoner have said they were tortured when they refused to meet her.

For her politics and for that stupid trip to Vietnam, Fonda was and still is despised by many, but what actually happened has sometimes been wildly exaggerated. Decades after the Vietnam war, many Americans still abhor Jane Fonda as a traitor -- "Hanoi Jane". Fonda has never apologized for her opposition to the Vietnam war, and she says she never will. She still asks why the US killed millions of Vietnamese people, and what more than 50,000 American soldiers died for. She has, however, apologized for those famous photos. "I will go to my grave", Fonda has said, "regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft gun, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless".

Her politics hurt her career, but not for long. In the late 1970s she played Lillian Hellman in Julia, won a second Oscar for the Vietnam war-themed Coming Home, and her political yet entertaining statement against nuclear power The China Syndrome became a huge hit when Three Mile Island had its little accident mere days after the movie opened. In 1980, Fonda bought the rights to On Golden Pond, hoping her father would play the lead, and she would play his daughter. When he won his Oscar for that role, he was not healthy enough to attend, but his daughter accepted the statuette on his behalf. The elder Fonda said it was "the happiest night of my life".

Fonda had continued success as an actress through the 1980s, and made a series of wildly popular exercise videos in the late 1980s. Her father's last wife, Shirley Fonda, appeared in two of Fonda's Workout videos. Fonda now says she never exercises any more. In the early 1990s, she married cable mogul Ted Turner and left show business. For years, she said she would never return to acting, but after divorcing Turner she appeared in a New York production of The Vagina Monologues, and returned to film with Monster-In-Law starring Jennifer Lopez and Wanda Sykes.

She now describes herself as a born-again Christian, and continues speaking her mind on political issues. She has criticized America's occupation of Iraq, marched in Mexico with activists demanding an investigation of the murders of hundreds of women there, and been involved with a campaign to protect Kenyan girls from genital mutilation.

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Re: The Actress we all Love to hate... Jane Fonda...But its wrong to.
9/2/2007 10:54:04 AM
Hi Thomas,

I can only repeat my post in Bj's forum

"I remember the Jane Fonda Vietnam Scandal well. And my only observation is that - however sorry she is and however much she regrets her wrongdoing - she should NEVER be considered for this award.

And what is more, if she has any integrity at all - she will not accept it.

If she does - it will demonstrate that her apology was valueless"

In common with many young americans including vietnam veterans  of her time - Jane Fonda opposed the War the Vietnam.-   this did not make them traitors.  However, she had a public face which she used and made a very grave error of judegement in her actions which had terrible consequences for the people involved.  Whatever she has done to redeem herself from an act of impetuous youth - she must bear the responsibility for her actions - the same as the rest of the world.

Saludos

Jenny
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Re: The Actress we all Love to hate... Jane Fonda...But its wrong to.
9/2/2007 11:04:37 AM
Thanks Jenny yes she must bear the consiqeuces of her actions just like i do and i am. But being in the limelight (hollywood) still does not tell us want the people want, being nominated for an award? what does that tell you? I think for the most part people have put this little mis hap of hers behind. So we live with it. Grin and bear it for theres nothing anyone can do to change the past only what we are going to do in the future. OJ simpson is still around and he in my eyes was a murderer.
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9/2/2007 3:12:29 PM
Hi Thomas,
  My friend, I'm sorry to say this but this was not a little incident that many have forgotten.  I am a Vietnam ara Veteran and I will never, NEVER!!!!!, forget going into the hospital in Providence Rhode Island to visit with my gravely ill father.  As I walked up the steps of the hospital, Proudly wearing my Class A uniform to show my father that I was proud to be serving my country, I was pelted with eggs untill my uniform was a complete shambles.  My father turned away from me and weeped.
  Hanoi Jane was quick to call our military soldiers, (Her neighbors) Baby Killers but she was NOT THERE when compassionate troops, hearing babies crying in a Rice Field, scooping thos babies up, bringing them back to their unit to care for them, and having those babies Blow Up, killing almost everyone in their units.  It was okay for Hanoi Jane to spread her vicious propanganda of her own people but she said nothing of the Viet Cong that strapped Bombs to their own children, (Their own flesh and Blood) and use them as traps to kill our troops.  How can you, or anyone condone the actions of a person that just shrugs her shoulders and simply says, "Okay, maybe I was wrong."  Does this picture look funny to you?  How about with a foul mouthed so called American Citizen sitting on it and pointing it towards your neighbors?????Isn't this a cute picture?  Too bad she wasn't allowed to live.  Our soldiers were Forced to have to sacrifice the lives of those that posed a threat and what is not normally understood is that many of the troops that were ordered to shoot a child, would later be found with a Bullet in their head.  The Veitnamese war (Not conflict or Police Action) was manned by untrained military personnel that for the most part received as little as two weeks training, no background information on the area they were going to nor what to expect when they got there.  No one was ready to see an American Actress (She was never that great an actress to begin with) on the evening Propaganda News, yes they were being fed the news three times a day from Viet Cong News channels and Hanoi Jane was shoved down their throats as she would reveal the location of American Troops, just before her Vietcong Friends would Bomb the encampment.  She should be tryed as a Traitor and should pay for her War Crimes.  There are too many vietnam Veterans laying in graves or wishing they were dead as a direct result of Hanoi Jane's Propaganda aimed at weakening the Armed Forces of the United States of America.  I am Proud to be an American, I am proud that I served for five years in the United States Air Force, proud that I served for four years in the Army Reserve, and Proud that I served for four years in the Army Nationa Guard, but I am not proud that we still have Slime Balls like Hanoi Jane walking around free after all the heartaches that they have caused against their own people. 
  I'm sorry my friend, but Monday Shirley and I will celebrate Labor Day along with many others, however if Hanoi Jane shows up on any channel whatsoever, that will be the end of my celebration.  Perhaps as we Forgive Hanoi Jane for her mistakes we should also forgive Suddam Hussein for the thousands of his own people that he deliberately killed while testing the effects of a new Gas bomb that he was planning to use on us, and we may as well forgive Osama Bin Laden for planning the 911 disaster, and lets not forget to forgive Timothy McVey for all those children that he killed in Oklahoma that never had the chance to even know what life was all about.  I'm sorry, but I guess I'm not qualified to be a Christian because I can not bring myself to forgive those that have caused so much grief to so many innocent people.

HAPPY LABOR DAY!!!!

God Bless You

Mike

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Re: The Actress we all Love to hate... Jane Fonda...But its wrong to.
9/2/2007 3:25:56 PM
PROUD TO A HUMAN. God already blessed America with plush reach soil and a land of opportunity is the place im proud of but condeming a persons view of which they have appologised and said it was a mistake for?  is still in turmoil of such hatred, many actresses who have made mistakes toearn money for a life early on keeps coming back, imagine how they feel? Being proud of your country is one thing but to care for another is wrong?? Our value in what is right and what is wrong is so messed up do we still need to be reminded that Jesus died for us who are faithful? What he did was wrong so was my shooting heroine up my arm for 10 years was wrong, i still beatmyself up on that but i shouldnt? you know why...God forgives and God forgets. Rehashing an old news bit is not going to get nothing done.  We all make choices in what we know is best but when we fall who is there to help pick us up? we have freedom of choice but i have freedom in Christ and for me i learn to forget and to forgive. We can not correct the past only to learn from it.
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