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Well John,
You said "Personally I think its pointless trying to get some people to "Do the right thing" we may as well accept that people ..."
Let me go back to a time when we were young(er) and remember ever getting into trouble? We had parents from many families that would help make sure we all did the right thing. Community parenting worked. Because parents didn't want to be embarrassed by their child doing something wrong and some other parent having to say something about it.
Today, everyone wants to say 'it's not my problem'. Guess what? If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. People have gotten so lazy and one sided that our world is going to crap. Look at the youth today. Need I say more?
If you see something wrong, speak up and help those that don't know better. If you get slack about it ask for help on the matter. Do what's right, not convenient.
Kenneth
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