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Re: SHOULD THE PATRIOT ACT BE TAKEN OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION???
11/30/2006 10:24:24 PM

 Hello Kathy and Friends

     The Patriot Act has it's merit but for the most part, it is unnessesary. Just about everything that is covered by the Patriot ACT HAS ALREADY BEEN COVER BY PREVIOUS ACTS OF CONGRESS and executive orders. Actually, it has alreday been established that during wartime, the government has to right to suspend the constitution in it's entirety as we as do away with all civil liberties. Not just for illegals and foreign nationals but for US citizens as well. What I don't like about the Patriot Act is that is was written mostly in secret and it has given unlimited power to a single person. The President Of The United States. The Patriot Act was passed of as being nessesary for the purpose of saving time in the decisin making process with regard to our national security in the time of war. Our Patriot Act was concieved pripor to us being in a war. In fact, it appears that rather than the Act being created in the case of war, a war was created in order to enact the Patriot Act and give unlimited power to GW Bush. Any act that gives so much power to one man cannot be good for the nation. The Patriot Act establishes unlimited power to Bush without even so much as an opinion from the congress. This is totally in opposition to anything ever established by the constitution or the bill of rights. The act had barely been in effect for a few months untill the first abuses of this power were being exposed. These abuses of power have continued nonstop and have now reached the point of actually being blatant disregard for the constitutuion

    The following is a bit about other executive orders designed to be enacted in the time of war. To me, it is all very frightening.

 
FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS:
Locations and Executive Orders 

 

September 04, 2004
There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.
 
Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.
 
The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.
 
Now let's review the justification for any actions taken...
 
Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:...
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
 
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
 
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
 
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
 
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
 
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
 
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
 
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
 
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
 
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051
 
specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310
 
grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049
 
assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
 
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921
 
allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...
 
National Security Act of 1947
 
allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.
 
1950 Defense Production Act
 
gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.
 
Act of August 29, 1916
 
authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.
 
International Emergency Economic Powers Act
 
enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.
 
Where are these camps?
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Re: SHOULD THE PATRIOT ACT BE TAKEN OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION???
12/3/2006 1:59:50 PM

Hello Kathy,

I agree that the 'Patriot Act' is a necessary component of our government and crucial to our safety.  However, I believe that it gives our government too much power, power that is used to invade the privacy of innocent americans.  I see it as a 'necessary evil'.  And I believe that it should be rewritten to protect the innocent.

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