Hello Donna,   Thanks for the invite.. i hope I can help everyone some how.....    I have posted in another forum of the same topic. Robert had started it ,I believe.    I'm on my first cup of coffee so I still have sleepies in my eyes..   There are quite a few Names of illnesses that doctors don't really know much about.. if you don't search around and shop for doctors opinions and stick to one because you always have seen that doctor or he/she is a family doc, your limiting your options to a better healthier life.. Most doctors stick to a small frame around makeing an easy liveing for them. they don't exspand the frame to other doctors training and opinions.. They would rather work from a book, a page they memorize and feel safe with. Did you know by practiseing what they believe is the right way and do it themselves-- their average life span is only 58,59..     A Proffessor in the univurcity of california told many others they should practice his ideas, on diferent illnesses. well they didn't listen to him and he has out lived them. In 1994 he was 94 yrs.. still teaching and farming..   Now there IS a doctor (Dr Wallach) who listens, whom is quite entriqued with livespans and how people in tibet live to be 140 yrs. He has travelled to investagate and mostly learn. From what he learns he shares..  He started out as a farm boy and went on to be a vet. he then became a physycian. From what he learned as a vet and a physician he did thousands of autopsies and learned that natural deaths are caused from lack of vitamins and minerals..... You've heard death of complications after an elderly women fell and broke her hip,, she died from asteralpuroses,, from lack of """calcium"""" .... The lack of calcium is the cause of over 140 illnesses and ailments..  There are ways to stop and prevent even cure illnesses naturally.  With vitamins and minerals. Dr Wallach has cured people with advanced authoritus and diabetes.        This might sound like a sales pitch well in a way it could be -for people to open their eyes and listen...     People buy the pills and swallow perscripctions,  but their bodies don't even brake those pills apart or open them. They get passed out and down the sewer.. one adays, centrium, and so on..  YOUR body stops absorbing what it should get after the age of 30 by the age of retirement you only absorb 3% of what your should get..   on the other hand ORAL consumption of liquid products, you get 90+% of what you should...   Theres another piont The farm lands we get our foods from is so used up the crops don't produce the minerals we think we are getting. This was file in senate of our goverment in 1958'.  Our foods are just a stomache filler thats it. So for the past fifty years our goverment has been letting the food and drug adminastration push chemicals that they believe to make up the difference. However then you keep hearing (sideaffects)..They do this anyway because as our government says "It builds jobs" and makes them money.. we have to find the vitamins and minerals elsewhere.  with a little research and time you might find someplace to do this in the meantime investagate these links.. http://www.oxywave.com/atbuyit/ Affiliated http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/?af=342598 Affiliated http://www.colloidal-min.com/b1.htm just because.

Without the vitamins and minerals our -your bodies need we will (feel) symtoms and ailments. just like animals show farmers they need vitamins by chewing on the wood in the barn or a deer bone they find laying around, they need vitamins and minerals.   Women crave while pregnent because they are lacking vitamins and minerals, they even loose a tooth or 2. because they are being drained of calcium.. women dureing (pms) wouldn't have those terrible cramps if they had (boron)   Vitamins and minerals or paying a doctor bill thats how i look at it.......

Fact- here in the east the milk is homonginized and pasturized (watered done even) the calcium has been thinned out of the milk. There is no creme in the milk containers. Our kids here are developeing calcium divisienceys. I went to texas and there is still creme in therir milk..  They should be glad they do.

Nick- has the right idea...

Hi Donna,

As you know, I've posted some information on your other threads about removing toxins from the home.  This is often helpful and never harmful.  I thank you for this description of fibromyalgia it has really helped to enlighten me on what it must be like to suffer from it.  I hope that anyone suffering from this is able to find something that works for them to find relief!

Alana

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Hi Tom,

Thanks for sharing your information. We never know what might help with fibromyalgia symptoms. It depends upon the individual and the product. I will check into your links.

DonnaZ

Hi Alana,

Thanks for posting on my forum. Please feel free to share your information on the toxins in our home in case someone finds my forum but not yours. I agree about the toxins and use some Melaleuca products in my home. Since we are not allowed to advertise on the internet or sell products on auctions it is difficult to get the word out about the toxin-free products.

I have heard about the portable steamer that some people use to clean their homes instead of using chemicals. I have not tried one of these and wonder if anyone has any experience with this? If so, does the steamer really do a good job of cleaning stoves, toilets, sinks, showers, etc. or is it just another one of those products that sounds good in theory?

DonnaZ