Hello Everyone! :-) On that web site, someone who had a near death personal experience. Cathy's NDE (name changed) Cathy (my girlfriend) has had an NDE after being brought in to the first-aid room of a hospital in Holland. I don't know if it is essential to mention that she had tried to commit suicide (pills). She was unconscience when she was found at home and was brought to the hospital like that. She remembers to have seen her body lying in the first-aid room, viewed from a high corner near the ceiling; the medical staff was working hard on her 'body', details from this were precisely given by her afterwards without ever having seen the room before or later. She felt quite neutral, even when she heard a doctor or nurse say: 'Oh, there she goes again'. Then she had an experience like travelling through a dark tunnel, seeing to the right of the end of the tunnel a female person, dressed in white, with dark hair. Then she saw IT, the music and colors that were undescribably beautiful and a light with such an intense beauty and mildness as never before. She was not allowed to go through. All of a sudden she found herself again at the entrance of the tunnel, where it was dark, there was no sound at all. She felt like being one of the many who were there, walking around and around, being doomed to do so eternally. It was the worst thing that a person can ever experience. There was suffering, pain, remource, guilt. The 'many who were there' were without any body-form like we know, they merely looked like little packets or little dull colored balls and were to her belief rapists and murderers. One of these 'packets' was sort of allowed to leave this place without her knowing exactly how and by whom. She envied this 'entity' for it, the suffering was unbearable. She does not know how long she has been there, she awoke in the IC-unit of the hospital, tied to her bed. This experience has influenced her life tremendously, changing everything that was before. People told her later that her stories about the whole hospital-thing were rather incoherent, but one aspect remained always the same, her NDE. Does this indicate something what we could call a hell ? Is this what was made clear to her: change your life or look what will happen when you die ?

John Beals' NDE from that web site: John Beals gave this remarkable account to a Friend shortly before his death in 1796 : Recovering from a fit of sickness, a weak John Beals desired that his family retire for the evening sooner than was usual. The door to his room suddenly opened and a person, clothed in white raiment, drew to his bedside and bade him to arise and follow him. They went out of the room together and ascended up through the air. John was brought to Heaven by his Guide and was placed before the Great Being who was seated on a bright throne of glory. The Divine Being looked upon him and asked how he came to be there. He replied that a person in white raiment had come to him and brought him to this glorious place. The Divine Being told the Guide to take John and show him the glory of the Saints. What John saw caused his heart to be overcome with joy and he desired to remain there forever. He was informed that he must go back again to the world and remain for two and a half days. If he spent his time in faithfulness, he should return and have his inheritance among the Saints forever. John then asked the Guide to take him where he might have a fragrant smell. He was taken to a place where a door opened and released the most delightful odor he had ever experienced. He was soon filled with the odor and then was brought back by his Guide to his chamber and the bed where he lay. The fragrant smell remained in his nostrils for many days. He recovered very quickly from his sickness and believed that what he had seen would soon be fulfilled.

People will believe what they want to believer in spite of facts. Near death experiences can be duplicated ANYTIME one wants to experince them by simply reducing the amount of oxygen getting to the brain by a sufficent amount. I have been there and done that. The difference is I know what it was. I have had dreams so real I believed they actually happend and in one case, believed it for years. I would have testified in court it happened, I would have bet my life it really happend. Only, IT DID NOT! IT WAS A DREAM! And I have NO clue, (nor does anyone else) how many things I truly believe have happened which are really just dreams I have had and which I have not yet discovered are dreams. SO, when people swear up and down they have had experiences which defy the laws of nature, logic and common sense, the chance they are anything other than dreams, is about ZERO!

I have had a couple of deja' vu experiences and they always feel very weird. I would swear that I've been somewhere or done something before. Turns out I never have, I just feel like I do. I also do a lot of cross-stitch and some other crafts that always have to do with Native Americans. A girlfriend told me once maybe I was an Indian in a past life.

Great forum topic! I can't think of anything that I've observed or experienced to share, but I sure enjoy reading the accounts of other people. Very interesting posts so far. :)