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Re: GreenZap and Mazumah Are From The Same Guy ... Damon Westmoreland ...AND ...
2/17/2006 3:21:56 PM
Hello Patricia, The opening statement asks IF GreenZap is being run by a convicted felon and I do state "is for you to decide". I do not state anyone is. As for the BBB reports, they are real and not lies and all that I have read so far is validated except the convicted felon part. Here's full link to BBB reports: http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=28009119
http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bureau=sandiego&compid=30002299
http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bureau=sandiego&compid=23002098&language=&code=
http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bureau=sandiego&compid=1030246&language=&code=
http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bureau=sandiego&compid=1043708&language=&code=
http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bureau=sandiego&compid=13006533&language=&code=
http://www.sandiego.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bureau=sandiego&compid=27002208&language=&code=
Some reports do include an update by the bureau of Mr. Westmoreland's affiliation to GreenZap. Other previous businesses are listed as well with Mr. Westmoreland's ties to the company. I really wouldn't post anything unless I check it out thoroughly. I do state again to do your own due dilegence and not just take my word for it. Newest Release: Podcasting For Fun & Profit! Podcasting Teleprompter - Make Yourself Sound Like A Pro! FREE Niche Report AlertPay - A BETTER Alternative to PayPal Coming soon "Ads By The Squares" www.adsbythesquares.com Kenneth R Sword Jr Co-CEO - Bizzy Blogz http://www.bizzyblogz.com/krsword Copy this link to your RSS Reader: http://www.bizzyblogz.com/rss.php?u=krsword http://www.executive-hosting.biz
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Re: GreenZap and Mazumah Are From The Same Guy ... Damon Westmoreland ...AND ...
2/17/2006 3:38:32 PM
Hi again Patricia, I don't take this personally and know that you didn't call me a liar. Most people would become distraught in a situation like this. I really do look deep into things before I open my mouth or report something though. I just replied a moment ago with all link from the San Diego BBB I dug up (not somebody else) so you can have it from me directly to give you accurate info. I, too, am a member of GZ, a greeny, and I wanted answers BEFORE I put any money into something. This company didn't settle with me and I went to find answers and when I recieved a reply from Stamps.com stating GreenZap could only be an affiliate this made me look a little harder. I had written many more companies from GZ's list but no others replied. Please understand I am looking out for all here and ask all to always proceed with caution in any transactions pertaining with money and personal information. Wishing the best for all. Newest Release: Podcasting For Fun & Profit! Podcasting Teleprompter - Make Yourself Sound Like A Pro! FREE Niche Report AlertPay - A BETTER Alternative to PayPal Coming soon "Ads By The Squares" www.adsbythesquares.com Kenneth R Sword Jr Co-CEO - Bizzy Blogz http://www.bizzyblogz.com/krsword Copy this link to your RSS Reader: http://www.bizzyblogz.com/rss.php?u=krsword http://www.executive-hosting.biz
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Re: GreenZap and Mazumah Are From The Same Guy ... Damon Westmoreland ...AND ...
2/17/2006 3:59:52 PM
I certainly am not DISTRAUGHT (and in a situation like what? I haven't lost any money with GreenZap). I know Damon and I feel all these attacks are made by liars. Last night I got my 20 FREE members just as GreenZap (Alex Sonkin & Damon Westmoreland) said I would. Promise kept. There is no way on God's Green Earth that I would not market GreenZap. Paying $1-2 fees as opposed to PayPals HIGH fees will be great - GreenZap members will benefit. AND KENNETH, you really SHOULD investigate to see how many complaints PayPal has lodged against them. THERE ARE THOUSANDS. T-H-O-U-S-A-N-D-S. Not a handful of complaints like GreenZap has. And all GreenZap's have been resolved - PayPals have NOT. Why haven't you contacted GreenZap to let them know of your concerns rather than copying and pasting OLD stuff you found on message boards? Regards, Pat
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Re: GreenZap and Mazumah...closing account
2/17/2006 6:15:00 PM
Hi everyone Just thought I would let you know that it appears the support desk at GZ has some real people answering the emails. They did close my account. Here's the reply I got from them, Quote Dear Roger, Thank you for contacting us! Per your request, your account has been closed. Sincerely, Your GZ Customer Care Team Unquote
Roger Abraham Tillsonburg, ON Canada 519-842-8485 MSN:rogera1@hotmail.com Billboards on the Information Highway! http://rog.url123.com/sev4
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Re: GreenZap and Mazumah Are From The Same Guy ... Damon Westmoreland ...AND ...
2/17/2006 6:35:11 PM
It appears obvious that Kenneth is doing or has done his due diligence on Greenzap Patricia. Rather than scratch the surface (like yourself), Kenneth has research deeply. Unfortunately I have to agree with him. Right now I don't personally have the time to write up a full analysis of findings on Greenzap, but I will say that what I have discovered is that I certainly will NEVER upgrade to gold! I have had more spam since joining as a 'green' member almost one year ago than I have had in my entire online experience of 12 years. Thats right, since 1994 I have been online, & I have never had as much spam. I gave greenzap my personal email addr for this opportunity. What a mistake!! Stupid me, how could I have been so naive? The $25 they promised in cash transformed somehow into webcash. I even recruited a few members. I was told I would receive cash for them but that also transformed into webcash! I forgot that this calibre of person has no scruples or concerns of selling a databse of names to email marketers (thus the flood of spams)- Silly me. It was only a week after joining & recruiting that I actually thought about things & then went & did some research. OMG, what I found!! Amazing! The little bit that Kenneth has posted is only a pimple on an elephants ass.(no disrespect Ken. Actually what you have posted is more than enough to make an informed decision) But if you google for more the info is abundant. These days Yaysayers are a very very small minority. Naysayers are everywhere! But... in those times of research for me there was extremely little in the public domain. That was prelaunch days. I think I even did a post here & elswhere all those months ago telling folk to beware. Nobody knew who was actually behid GZ in those days, apart from those closely associated with DW, who were probably being paid for their assistance in assisting the cause. Being cautious, before making firm accusations, I threw out the initials DW as the main man behind this cause & gave fair warning. Wasnt long before one of his 'not so bright' cohorts came very quickly to his defence spelling his name out in lights! ("Damon Westmoreland") Then it was all on! She had stated that Damon only worked for Alex Sonkin who was the CEO of Greenzap. Well I knew better. Alex Sonkin? Who? The famous Wall St banker & Greenzap CEO that he claimed he was or from his live picture on the webcast a guy who looked exactly the same as a male model with the same name on a modelling website? (yes, sprung, so Sonkin later admitted publically to the modelling as there was absolutely No defence!!) This is only one very small incosistency I discovered amongst literally hundreds of others. Many of them have been published by myself & many others many times & some I still hold as the ace card up my sleeve. DW thought he was a smarty by the way he went about registering Greenzap & the way he had others fronting it. Unfortunately, the net leaves a nice trail to follow & that, combined with years of experience in the real world as an 'Investigator', with contacts & 'other' intel & tools at my disposal, led to him being exposed probably a lot sooner than expected. Seems a lot of folk have been burnt in his many other money making scams in the past. Still thinkinking about joining or upgrading to gold in Greenzap? Please DONT until you google & make an informed decision. You could start at http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?threadid=2190 if you cant be bothered googling. That thread is 139 pages long so have a few spare hours aside. There are both sides fighting there but you will see the YAY sayers being exposed as the threads progress as being DW himself or one of his Fraudster buddies (with the appropriate proof to back it) This is happening all over the web. The associations I discovered amongst this group of scammers is to say the least, incredible. Had DW not been exposed sooner I believe this would have been the nets GREATEST Scam. Maybe even the Worlds' Greatest Scam! Although there is a sucker born every day so they will carry on business. Dont let the flashy webpage trick you into believing they are legitimate.
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