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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
12/28/2012 4:29:22 PM

...but Bloomin-idiot-berg believes a 13 year old is old enough to have an abortion WITHOUT her parent's knowledge or consent...

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
12/28/2012 7:29:27 PM


Hello Evelyn

I hope you had a great Christmas and holidays.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the so-called 2nd person with a gun. It could just be a coincidence or something else. As far as the computer being smashed, the shooter was a very angry young man because he thought his mother and others were going institutionalize him and may have destroyed the computer himself. When you listen to Gwen Olsen's videos, you will see he had good reason to be afraid of what that might mean for him. Almost every time you see a person who is angry it is because he is afraid. Fear creates anger. Add to that, mind altering drugs and you have a big mental mess.

Just to show you how ridiculous these conspiracy stories get, a man on my email list sent me a link to a website that was blaming the Israeli gov't for being behind this dastardly deed. Can you imagine such a thing? They also blamed the Norway shootings on Israel. Israel would be insane to try such a thing! They have far too much to lose and anyway, their plate is full with what is going on around them at home. You would be surprised who was quoted in the articles with regard to his hate mongering. I will try to remember to post it here so people can see how crazy the world is getting. Israel would never do such a thing and has no desire for doing that. People who say things like that about Israel are racists and are looking for anything they can try to pin on Israel knowing that most people don't want to read anything for themselves and can be hooked on the first thing they hear.

Then the same man sent me another version of a conspiracy completely different from the first one. It included a video from what looked like snippets from other videos all out of context, of course. You have to ask how he even got hold of these videos to make his own video. I have to admit that at first glance, it looked very authentic. And then we have to remember that there is a program called Photo Shop which lets you change just about anything and it makes pictures and things that are not real look very authentic. Most conspiracy stories would require a lot of people keeping their mouth shut about it and that would never happen.

I've been on the internet for 13 years and I've learned you can't believe half of what you see and hear. I've also learned you can make up just about any kind of story you want and make it look any way you want it to look. If I smell a rat ...or even just get a whiff of a rat, I look for the rat and many times I find it.

I could be wrong, I suppose, but I think some of these conspiracy stories are just young adolescents without a job and nothing to do so they make up videos just to see who can get the most hits, all the while laughing at how dumb we all are ...and they are right. We are as dumb as a hammer.

Helen


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Helen, I will be back to watch these videos as I think they will be very interesting. As you probably know I was away for several days and am way behind on things but I would like to mention that there has been nothing said about the second person arrested at the scene wearing camouflage and carrying a rifle. This was reported the day the shootings happened and I've wondered if maybe someone took advantage of this young man's mental state and a big why is why was his computer smashed to the point where nothing could be retrieved from it? Could it be there was information on it that would have shed light on the truth of this situation and implemented others? I guess with the way lots of things are covered up we will never know the truth but I do know a lot of people have mysteriously died since Obummer has been president and that is fact and not hearsay.

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Here's a couple of videos done by Pharmaceutical Rep, Gwen Olsen. These videos are powerful and informative!

In the first video, she talks about her experiences as a Pharmaceutical Rep.

In the second video, she talks about her own experience while using a psychiatric drug and what happens when someone withdraws from these drugs. Even if a person has not been taking the drug for a week or two, the effects linger for months making a person worse off than before they ever took any drug. In some news stories, they might make it sound as if a shooter's mental illness is the problem and caused him to commit this crime when it is really the side effects of the drugs that caused him to do it. Remember Andrea Yates? They made out like she was nuts. I don't recall much being said about the drugs she was on as being instrumental in causing her to drown her 5 children. They implied it was her mental disease.

In the article in our local paper, they talked about the shooter possibly having aspergers (spelling ??) and a psychiatrist said that there is no history of an aspergers person ever being violent. They didn't even mention drugs in the article.

If you go to YouTube, you will find other useful videos with Gwen Olsen.

I hope you will consider sending this information to your private lists. You never know who you might help and whose lives you might have saved. If the shooter's mom had known about these side effects maybe she could have made other choices for her son in this area and maybe it would have prevented the shooting from ever happening and made life better for the young man. Just copy and paste this entire email if you wish and email it to people.

Please mention to people that before trying drugs they should try using a good multiple vitamin high in B-vitamins. Also most diets are very low on minerals of all kinds. There are 67 or more minerals that humans need so a good mineral supplement would be helpful.

Also we have been seeing some amazing results with the product I have been selling. Tell them to send me an email to get more information about that.

Helen
zhebee@yahoo.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOW8LNU2hFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEIg1as2ppc

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If there had been guns in the school, the shooter may not have gone to the school at all.

I read a full page about this shooting in our local paper with the articles coming from news media such as AP. There was some talk of this boy having had some mental issues but not one word about whether he had been taking prescribed psychiatric drugs or not. Judging from what they said, it was very likely that he was on some sort of psychiatric meds which have side effects such as homicidal and suicidal tendencies.

The killer was not guns, it was not a madman, IT WAS PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES who know what the side effects are but they sell them anyway. They are the real murderers. The only way we can change that is to inform as many people as possible. We should be doing this while the iron is hot.

Helen

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Former NYPD Detective John Baeza says that it’s important to mourn, but we need to take action to see that schools are made safer. And to do it he says we need to repeal legislation making schools gun-free zones so that teachers can properly defend themselves:

Watch:

Spend $4 and get back $10 every time you spend. Contact me (Helen) at this email »»» zhebee@yahoo.com
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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
12/29/2012 2:26:24 PM

Helen I try my best not to get caught up in conspiracy theories but to me there is just too much that is unanswered in this situation just like several others. Things are not always as they seem to be. Hope you have a wonderful weekend. :)

PS: I had a wonderful Christmas.

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Hello Evelyn

I hope you had a great Christmas and holidays.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the so-called 2nd person with a gun. It could just be a coincidence or something else. As far as the computer being smashed, the shooter was a very angry young man because he thought his mother and others were going institutionalize him and may have destroyed the computer himself. When you listen to Gwen Olsen's videos, you will see he had good reason to be afraid of what that might mean for him. Almost every time you see a person who is angry it is because he is afraid. Fear creates anger. Add to that, mind altering drugs and you have a big mental mess.

Just to show you how ridiculous these conspiracy stories get, a man on my email list sent me a link to a website that was blaming the Israeli gov't for being behind this dastardly deed. Can you imagine such a thing? They also blamed the Norway shootings on Israel. Israel would be insane to try such a thing! They have far too much to lose and anyway, their plate is full with what is going on around them at home. You would be surprised who was quoted in the articles with regard to his hate mongering. I will try to remember to post it here so people can see how crazy the world is getting. Israel would never do such a thing and has no desire for doing that. People who say things like that about Israel are racists and are looking for anything they can try to pin on Israel knowing that most people don't want to read anything for themselves and can be hooked on the first thing they hear.

Then the same man sent me another version of a conspiracy completely different from the first one. It included a video from what looked like snippets from other videos all out of context, of course. You have to ask how he even got hold of these videos to make his own video. I have to admit that at first glance, it looked very authentic. And then we have to remember that there is a program called Photo Shop which lets you change just about anything and it makes pictures and things that are not real look very authentic. Most conspiracy stories would require a lot of people keeping their mouth shut about it and that would never happen.

I've been on the internet for 13 years and I've learned you can't believe half of what you see and hear. I've also learned you can make up just about any kind of story you want and make it look any way you want it to look. If I smell a rat ...or even just get a whiff of a rat, I look for the rat and many times I find it.

I could be wrong, I suppose, but I think some of these conspiracy stories are just young adolescents without a job and nothing to do so they make up videos just to see who can get the most hits, all the while laughing at how dumb we all are ...and they are right. We are as dumb as a hammer.

Helen


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Helen, I will be back to watch these videos as I think they will be very interesting. As you probably know I was away for several days and am way behind on things but I would like to mention that there has been nothing said about the second person arrested at the scene wearing camouflage and carrying a rifle. This was reported the day the shootings happened and I've wondered if maybe someone took advantage of this young man's mental state and a big why is why was his computer smashed to the point where nothing could be retrieved from it? Could it be there was information on it that would have shed light on the truth of this situation and implemented others? I guess with the way lots of things are covered up we will never know the truth but I do know a lot of people have mysteriously died since Obummer has been president and that is fact and not hearsay.

Quote:

- - - -

Here's a couple of videos done by Pharmaceutical Rep, Gwen Olsen. These videos are powerful and informative!

In the first video, she talks about her experiences as a Pharmaceutical Rep.

In the second video, she talks about her own experience while using a psychiatric drug and what happens when someone withdraws from these drugs. Even if a person has not been taking the drug for a week or two, the effects linger for months making a person worse off than before they ever took any drug. In some news stories, they might make it sound as if a shooter's mental illness is the problem and caused him to commit this crime when it is really the side effects of the drugs that caused him to do it. Remember Andrea Yates? They made out like she was nuts. I don't recall much being said about the drugs she was on as being instrumental in causing her to drown her 5 children. They implied it was her mental disease.

In the article in our local paper, they talked about the shooter possibly having aspergers (spelling ??) and a psychiatrist said that there is no history of an aspergers person ever being violent. They didn't even mention drugs in the article.

If you go to YouTube, you will find other useful videos with Gwen Olsen.

I hope you will consider sending this information to your private lists. You never know who you might help and whose lives you might have saved. If the shooter's mom had known about these side effects maybe she could have made other choices for her son in this area and maybe it would have prevented the shooting from ever happening and made life better for the young man. Just copy and paste this entire email if you wish and email it to people.

Please mention to people that before trying drugs they should try using a good multiple vitamin high in B-vitamins. Also most diets are very low on minerals of all kinds. There are 67 or more minerals that humans need so a good mineral supplement would be helpful.

Also we have been seeing some amazing results with the product I have been selling. Tell them to send me an email to get more information about that.

Helen
zhebee@yahoo.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOW8LNU2hFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEIg1as2ppc

Quote:

If there had been guns in the school, the shooter may not have gone to the school at all.

I read a full page about this shooting in our local paper with the articles coming from news media such as AP. There was some talk of this boy having had some mental issues but not one word about whether he had been taking prescribed psychiatric drugs or not. Judging from what they said, it was very likely that he was on some sort of psychiatric meds which have side effects such as homicidal and suicidal tendencies.

The killer was not guns, it was not a madman, IT WAS PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES who know what the side effects are but they sell them anyway. They are the real murderers. The only way we can change that is to inform as many people as possible. We should be doing this while the iron is hot.

Helen

Quote:

Former NYPD Detective John Baeza says that it’s important to mourn, but we need to take action to see that schools are made safer. And to do it he says we need to repeal legislation making schools gun-free zones so that teachers can properly defend themselves:

Watch:

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
12/29/2012 2:30:22 PM

A picture, or in this case a graphic, is worth a thousand words. :(

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RE: SOUND OFF ON ANY TOPIC YOU WANT TO.
12/29/2012 2:40:48 PM
THE REPORT FROM WASHINGTON

Exclusive: Ellis Washington has historical chart linking firearm restrictions to genocide
by Ellis Washington

Here’s the Formula: Hatred + Government + Disarmed Civilians = Genocide.

What makes the argument so powerful? Two factors. First, it makes common sense: Unarmed, defenseless people have no hope against armed aggressors. Second, it states the historical truth: Evil governments did wipe out 170,000,000 innocent non-military lives in the 20th century alone.

~ Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership website

The pretext: Massacre of the innocents – Newtown, Conn.

I am a professor at a wonderful online school called National Paralegal College (NPC). Shannon Southard, a student there recently raised some very prescient questions on the issue of gun control:

Seems that almost every shooting that has made national headlines recently has involved a shooter suffering from one form or mental issues or another. We had two tragic shootings this week – one in a crowded mall another in an elementary school. Not to mention the awful shooting earlier this year at the movie theater. … Who should be blamed for these individuals being able to commit such heinous acts – lawmakers for allowing access to weapons, mental health professionals for possibly not treating appropriately, society for turning their backs on them?

This prompted fellow NPC student, Kathryn Dunigan to remark, “Almost all the mass shooters over the past 20 years, including the ones at Columbine and the Aurora Theater were on mind altering psychiatric drugs. Is gun control really the national conversation we need, or is [it] medication control?”

This comment prompted my response to Kathryn:

Don’t take the easy (unconstitutional) way out. … I want you to reconsider your remarks in light of constitutional history. If you follow Obama’s and the Democratic Party path to disarm law-abiding citizens, then the criminals (who won’t obey any gun laws) will be emboldened to use gun violence without limits. Why? Because they will know that law-abiding citizens will be disarmed and easy prey for criminals to abuse We the People. When in doubt, always follow the Constitution.

I would invite you to read Dr. John Lott’s excellent book dispelling liberal assumptions on the correlation between the access of guns and the proliferation of gun violence. You can read a short analysis of Dr. Lott’s book, “More Guns, Less Crime.”

Note the level of vitriol in the academic community against his theories. Why? Because progressives understand that to effect and increase federal government hegemony and state-control throughout society, the Second Amendment must be repealed. Look at the history of all fascist societies from Robespierre and the Jacobins, the French Enlightenment, Germany’s Otto von Bismarck, to Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Franco, etc. The first thing these tyrants want to do as soon as they secured power was to disarm the public and make the STATE (e.g., the army, police, secret police, Gestapo, etc.) the only entity legally allowed to possess guns. Why? So the state can steal your unalienable (God-given) liberties and make you slaves of the Leviathan State. … In my opinion, President Obama has almost taken America to that abyss.

The Policy

The great Spanish philosopher George Santayana warned us decades ago: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) is an organization dedicated to the preservation of gun rights in the United States and “to encourage Americans to understand and defend all of the Bill of Rights for everyone.” The group was founded by former firearms dealer Aaron S. Zelman in 1986. JPFO interprets the Second Amendment as recognizing a pre-existing natural right of individuals to keep and bear arms.

According to the comprehensive research by JPFO, all of America’s present gun-control laws have Nazi origins, evidenced by the group’s shocking accusation that the Gun Control Act of 1968 was plagiarized almost word for word from Nazi legislation. The German Weapons Law, which existed before the Nazis came to power in 1933, was amended on March 18, 1938, by the Nazi government. The JPFO’s claim is based in part by the fact that the 1968 law introduces the “sporting purpose” test to distinguish different types of weapons, similar to the “sporting purpose” test that existed in the German law in question. Sen. Thomas Joseph Dodd (father to Sen. Chris Dodd) was a prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials and had reviewed copies of the Nazi firearms law as the 1968 legislation was being drafted.

Examine carefully the JPFO chart below detailing the history of global gun control laws in just a few selected countries over the past 100 years; it is a Who’s Who of hatred of liberty, government fascism, disarmed civilians and genocide.

The Postlude

America, you have a constitutional natural right to be armed in order to protect yourself, because under U.S law the police have no duty to protect the average person. The Bill of Rights (the first 10 amendments to the U.S. Constitution) are all unalienable rights, which meant that they are God-given, self-evident truths, natural rights that originated from God, the Bible and Natural Law and therefore can never be lawfully taken away by man or the State.

America, if you don’t learn your history, you will be damned to repeat it.

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