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Helen Elias

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
1/24/2012 11:24:35 AM
Hello all

My main concern about Ron Paul has been that maybe he was/is an anti-semite (racist). Well, I am not so sure. He seems to be a patriotic American.


I am not a US citizen but if I were, I have decided I would vote for Ron Paul. Sorry, Peter!
I don't think Romney or Gingrich can beat Obama.

As far as Ron Paul talking about withdrawing support (probably mostly money) from Israel, he is saying he would withdraw support from all the other countries as well. That could really be to Israel's advantage. Right now, the US gov't is giving millions and billions of dollars to various countries, many of which are Muslim countries ...like Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, the Palestinians, etc etc as well as to Israel. These Muslim countries are supposed use the money to help build up their countries but often the money is spent on arms to be used against Israel and to line the pockets of the leaders of these nations. If less money was available to countries that want to fight Israel, then Israel would need to spend less on arms and the military and wouldn't need as much money from the US, if any.


Right now, the Palestinian leaders, for example, are living in homes worth $1.5 million while their people live like paupers in refugee like camps without running water and proper toilets. Where did the leaders get the money for these expensive homes? Not from the poor in their territories, that's for sure. Where do the Palestinians get the money to buy all those rockets they use to strike at Israel civilians. Yes, a lot of money is also coming from Arabia and Iran as well but if Ron Paul were in power would he not be in favor of the US using its own oil. Less money would then be flowing into Arabs' pockets.


I know this is all rather simplistic but do you see where I am going with this? It probably wouldn't hurt Israel much if the US didn't help them financially. It might even be advantageous for Israel. Like Ron Paul has often said the US should not putting their nose into other countries business. It is not helping to make the world more peaceful, is it? The US is involved directly or indirectly in most of the world's wars. Imagine how peaceful this world would be if the US did not involve itself in these altercations. I realize that the big corporations are instigating most of these wars.

I don't have all the answers but from what I see, I think Ron Paul is the best choice for president even though there may be some things left to be desired. The alternatives leave a lot more to be desired.

Helen

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
1/24/2012 4:16:39 PM
Hi Helen,
I agree and you have written out great points that I have had difficulty explaining. Ron has not been against Israel or antisemitic, he said we should not be the 'Police of the World' and let each country take care of themselves. If there was the need to go to war then it should be discussed in Govt under due process before war is declared because otherwise it is Treason to just go out warring upon countries.
I have read through much of the history of the Global Elite's manipulations of the global populace and how they would get everyone under their New World Order - it has been done under deception playing one country against another and if it doesn't work then they harass and harangue until one side fires the first shot or they perform a False Flag event, supplying arms to both sides so they can profit from these wars. Just watch at all the 'war game' firings going on and the many ships in the Harmaas strait at present just harassing Iran into firing the first shot. This is the works of the Globalist. I listened to Lindsey Williams who was a Pastor for many of the older members of the Illuminati and they are talking before they die I guess.. Lindsey was telling his audience that the Globalists will try and hold off the war until around October so it will be a shoo in for Obama's election as people will not vote against him in time of war.. I guess we will have to see.
To vote for either Romney or Gingrich would be like voting for Obama because they are for New World Order and abortions, carbon taxes, wars etc.
The Main Stream Mudslingers deliberately mislead, misinform, just plain bald face lie, or they leave Ron and Rand Paul out altogether of news especially if it has a positive note.
More people are seeing this for themselves and reading and watching alternative news to find the truth.
The Main Stream Mudslingers audience has taken a huge nose dive that alternative media sources have shot up in their numbers - this might shine a light for you why SOPPA, PIPA bills were tried to be passed!
Amanda

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Hello all

My main concern about Ron Paul has been that maybe he was/is an anti-semite (racist). Well, I am not so sure. He seems to be a patriotic American.


I am not a US citizen but if I were, I have decided I would vote for Ron Paul. Sorry, Peter!
I don't think Romney or Gingrich can beat Obama.

As far as Ron Paul talking about withdrawing support (probably mostly money) from Israel, he is saying he would withdraw support from all the other countries as well. That could really be to Israel's advantage. Right now, the US gov't is giving millions and billions of dollars to various countries, many of which are Muslim countries ...like Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, the Palestinians, etc etc as well as to Israel. These Muslim countries are supposed use the money to help build up their countries but often the money is spent on arms to be used against Israel and to line the pockets of the leaders of these nations. If less money was available to countries that want to fight Israel, then Israel would need to spend less on arms and the military and wouldn't need as much money from the US, if any.


Right now, the Palestinian leaders, for example, are living in homes worth $1.5 million while their people live like paupers in refugee like camps without running water and proper toilets. Where did the leaders get the money for these expensive homes? Not from the poor in their territories, that's for sure. Where do the Palestinians get the money to buy all those rockets they use to strike at Israel civilians. Yes, a lot of money is also coming from Arabia and Iran as well but if Ron Paul were in power would he not be in favor of the US using its own oil. Less money would then be flowing into Arabs' pockets.


I know this is all rather simplistic but do you see where I am going with this? It probably wouldn't hurt Israel much if the US didn't help them financially. It might even be advantageous for Israel. Like Ron Paul has often said the US should not putting their nose into other countries business. It is not helping to make the world more peaceful, is it? The US is involved directly or indirectly in most of the world's wars. Imagine how peaceful this world would be if the US did not involve itself in these altercations. I realize that the big corporations are instigating most of these wars.

I don't have all the answers but from what I see, I think Ron Paul is the best choice for president even though there may be some things left to be desired. The alternatives leave a lot more to be desired.

Helen

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
1/25/2012 3:01:58 AM
Hello Amanda Helen

Helen you are lucky Canada has a good government now, your people are waking up.

Below is are videos that show how the Australian People have been fooled by bad Governments. This will show you how important it to Americans to vote in the right person Ron Paul





There is Great 7 part video series we should promote. Part 6 Climate Change


If videos load too slow Click YOUTUBE to watch.





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Amanda Martin-Shaver

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RE: Ron Paul 2012 - Wins Again
1/27/2012 12:08:36 AM
Hello Michael,
I saw these video's a couple of days ago and did not have time to watch them, then I forgot which out of the dozens of forum threads I had seen them! I am glad to have found them on here and did not even think about this thread!
Thanks for sharing and I have passed them on to my elder brother whom is living up in McKay, Queensland who is still asleep and hopefully they will explain more about what is happening in Australia. I have passed on several other articles but he has not responded about them at all.
I really want my brother to wake up so we can talk cause he has always been my buddy to go unload on and I miss that because the times we do talk on skype he is in denial so I can't go there and have to talk about other trivial stuff.
Amanda

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Hello Amanda Helen

Helen you are lucky Canada has a good government now, your people are waking up.

Below is are videos that show how the Australian People have been fooled by bad Governments. This will show you how important it to Americans to vote in the right person Ron Paul





There is Great 7 part video series we should promote. Part 6 Climate Change


If videos load too slow Click YOUTUBE to watch.





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