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6/11/2013 10:32:57 AM

6 in 10 Americans Don't See Anything Wrong With Mass Government Surveillance


The first polling on the National Security Agency surveillance leak is out, and despite almost unanimous cries of outrage from the press and civil-liberties advocates, the rest of America seems decidedly "meh" on the matter.

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Over half of us—56 percent, to be exact—think that serving phone companies with a secret court order to surrender customer phone records is an "acceptable" way to fight terrorism, according to a new survey from the Pew Research Center. While 41 percent oppose the NSA surveillance program specifically, a much broader swath of the country is generally willing to sacrifice privacy for security. Sixty-two percent say they'd rather the government intrude on their privacy if it means making it easier to investigate terrorist threats.

This attitude might reflect, in part, a growing awareness that our control over privacy is slipping away as companies and services increasingly learn more about us and our behavior. What's another gigantic organization or two?

But the survey also reveals some fascinating demographic information. Out of the age groups surveyed, young people are both the least likely to be following the surveillance news closely and the most likely to say they highly value their privacy. Predictably, Democrats say they're supportive of the policy more often than Republicans do—and Republicans were far more supportive of the NSA's warrantless wiretapping back in 2006 when President Bush was in the White House, compared with today.

On the whole, only 27 percent of Americans are even paying close attention to the revelations. That's roughly the same share of the country that in late May was tuned into the IRS targeting scandal and Congress's investigations into the Benghazi attack. Make of that what you will.

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6/11/2013 10:37:28 AM

These Pundits Have Decided Snowden Deserves to Go to Jail


These Pundits Have Decided Snowden Deserves to Go to Jail

Almost 24 hours have passed since Edward Snowden revealed his identity -- plenty of time for everyone to decide whether he's a good guy or a contemptible monster. What we know of Snowden's background suggests he's an unusual person -- he never graduated from high school, but used his programming skills to climb the ladder at the CIA and then the NSA. Such a fascinating biography gives a pundit a lot to work with. It makes him either an up-from-his-bootstraps meritocrat who knows government overreach when he sees it or an uncredentialed hack who had no business being where he was in the first place. Snowden has brought together a diverse crowd of supporters -- Glenn Beck, Michael Moore, Daniel Ellsberg, Julian Assange, The New Yorker's John Cassidy have all called Snowden a hero. There is also a diverse crowd that disagrees.

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"A Grandiose Narcissist Who Deserves to Be in Prison" — Jeffrey Toobin, The New Yorker

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"For this, some, including my colleague John Cassidy, are hailing him as a hero and a whistle-blower. He is neither. He is, rather, a grandiose narcissist who deserves to be in prison," The New Yorker's Jeffrey Toobin writes. Toobin mocks Snowden for saying "the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting," and objecting it. Hello! The NSA records things, Toobin says. Really, that is what he says: "What, one wonders, did Snowden think the N.S.A. did? Any marginally attentive citizen, much less N.S.A. employee or contractor, knows that the entire mission of the agency is to intercept electronic communications." And yet, Toobin says converting this common assumption into established fact is reprehensible.

And what of his decision to leak the documents? Doing so was, as he more or less acknowledges, a crime. Any government employee or contractor is warned repeatedly that the unauthorized disclosure of classified information is a crime. But Snowden, apparently, was answering to a higher calling.

Is that a stand against all national security leaks? The Journalistic Conventional Wisdom just a week ago -- when the Justice Department's investigation into Fox News report James Rosen was the big leak news -- was that national security leaks are absolutely vital to journalism and democracy. In fact, Toobin's colleague Steve Coll wrote a longer story in last week's magazine about that very thing. Toobin allows that some leaks are acceptable. In this case, however, he says Snowden should have taken his complaints to a member of Congress.

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"A National Security Kim Kardashian" who might need the death penalty

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On Fox and Friends on Monday, Ralph Peters railed that Snowden's true motive was to be stylish. "Now you’ve got this 29-year-old high school dropout whistleblower making foreign policy for our country, our security policy," he said. "It’s sad, Brian. We’ve made treason cool. Betraying your country is kind of a fashion statement. He wants to be the national security Kim Kardashian... I mean, we need to get very, very serious about treason. And oh by the way, for treason — as in the case of Bradley Manning or Edwards Snowden — you bring back the death penalty."

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"Self-appointed whistle-blower"

"Can intelligence operate effectively if every starry-eyed analyst feels entitled to be a self-appointed whistle-blower?" The Wall Street Journal's Gary Rosen tweets.

"Weak man" who didn't go to Congress

Andrew Sullivan posts a reader email that, like Toobin, suggests Snowden could have resolved this problem by going to Congress.

The DoD and classified programs have a variation of the Ethics Hotlines that most corporations have to support employees who have concerns about bad behavior. Snowden could have worked his concerns with this hotline. Barring that, he could have worked his concerns with the members of Congress briefed on the program. He could have even gone to a member of Congress who wasn’t briefed and gotten him or her involved.

Current members of Congress must be so proud to hear this, having been bashed for the last few sessions as the "Worst" and "Least Productive" Congresses ever. But some, like Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkley, might note that when they ask the secret court approving the collection of all phone call metadata to just make its legal rationale public, they were shot down. Sullivan's reader concludes:

Edward Snowden is not a hero. He was a weak man who took an oath to protect the nation’s secrets, found something he felt was contrary to our ideals, and decided to resolve the issue in an irresponsible manner by making the biggest, loudest bang he could. He failed the country he claims to want to save.

He must be hunted down

"I hope we follow Mr. Snowden to the ends of the earth to bring him to justice," South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham tweets. As The Guardian's Spencer Ackerman points out, that's the same construction he used to describe Osama bin Laden.


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6/11/2013 10:43:07 AM

Journalist in US surveillance case: More to come


Associated Press/Vincent Yu - Glenn Greenwald, a reporter of Britain's The Guardian newspaper, speaks to The Associated Press in Hong Kong Tuesday, June 11, 2013. Greenwald, the journalist who interviewed Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old contractor who allowed himself to be revealed as the source of disclosures about the U.S. government's secret surveillance programs, said he had been in touch with Snowden, but declined to say whether he was still in Hong Kong and said he didn’t know what his future plans were. (AP Photo/Vincent Yu)

HONG KONG (AP) — The journalist who exposed classified U.S. surveillance programs leaked by an American defense contractorsaid Tuesday that there will be more 'significant revelations' to come from the documents.

"We are going to have a lot more significant revelations that have not yet been heard over the next several weeks and months," saidGlenn Greenwald of The Guardian.

Greenwald told The Associated Press the decision was being made on when to release the next story based on the information provided by Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old employee of government contractor Booz Allen Hamilton who has been accused by U.S. Senate intelligence chairwoman Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California of committing an "act of treason" that should be prosecuted.

Greenwald's reports last week exposed widespread U.S. government programs to collect telephone and Internet records.

"There are dozens of stories generated by the documents he provided, and we intend to pursue every last one of them," Greenwald said.

Snowden's whereabouts were not immediately known on Tuesday, although he was believed to be staying somewhere in Hong Kong.

No charges have been brought and no warrant has been issued for the arrest of Snowden.

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6/11/2013 10:50:54 AM

Special Report: French homeless seek refuge in offices


Reuters/Reuters - Exterior view of the squat at Number 2 rue de Valenciennes in Paris May 22, 2013. REUTERS/Philippe Wojazer

Right of Housing group DAL spokesman Jean-Baptiste Eyraud is seen at the squat at Number 2 rue de Valenciennes in Paris April 8, 2013. Picture taken April 8, 2013. REUTERS/Jacky Naegelen
Right of Housing group DAL spokesman Jean-Baptiste Eyraud stands at the squat at Number 2 rue de Valenciennes in Paris April 8, 2013. REUTERS/Jacky Naegelen

By Mark John

PARIS (Reuters) - The occupiers staked their claim to the building with pizza.

When the first of 16 families entered a vacant four-storey office block in Paris one night last December, they placed repeated food orders so the neighbors could see from the comings-and-goings of delivery men that the address was occupied. Under French law, witness accounts of residency make eviction harder.

But it was their next act that really had the building's owner shaking his head in disbelief.

"What amazed me was when they invited in the housing minister a few days later," said Spanish property developer Ignacio Lasa Georgas, who has temporarily lost control of his 7- million-euro ($9 million) office block between the Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est railway stations.

"And over she came to give them her support."

The squat at Number 2 rue de Valenciennes is both a political battleground and a symbol of France's dysfunctional housing market. Activists helped the families move in to draw attention to how Europe's second biggest economy, which prides itself on its welfare system, is struggling to provide basic shelter for many of its 65 million citizens. The problem is not unique to France, but the reasons for it are both aggravated by, and feed into, the country's wider economic woes.

House prices started to rise in 2000. Spurred by a growing population and fragmenting households as well as cheap credit, the average house price in France has defied recession, increasing more from the turn of the century than in countries such as Britain and the United States. Government data show the cost of a home in France has outrun rises in household incomes by 70 percent; houses are now at their costliest compared to disposable incomes since the 1930s.

The housing shortage is further fueled by long-standing policies to protect tenants that discourage many owners from putting properties up for rent. Housing experts say as many as 7 percent of all apartments in Paris are vacant.

The red tape that clogs up bids for planning permission, as well as a steadily growing list of regulations on everything from safety to parking spaces, has also discouraged new building. Strict rules on building figure prominently in the total 400,000 regulations in France's law books. In Le Mans, a city famed for its motor races, plans for a new school have hit trouble because authorities are insisting it be earthquake-proofed - despite a government report stating there has never been any evidence of seismic activity in the region.

The shortage is plain on the streets of the capital. An early morning walk reveals huddles of cardboard and blankets in doorways, the makeshift abodes of some of the 33,000 people estimated by housing charity Abbe Pierre Foundation to be living rough in France - a figure that rises to 274,000 including those in shelters, short-term bedsits and improvised homes on campsites or the like.

That is nearly half the 633,782 people officially recorded as homeless on a single night last year in the United States, a country whose population is almost five times that of France. Exact comparisons are difficult because the countries use different methods, but both measures include people who are living rough or in temporary shelters.

Add to the homeless those living in acute overcrowding or moving from sofa to sofa, and Abbe Pierre, the charity, estimates a total of 3.6 million people in the country lack decent housing. The group puts the shortfall of affordable housing at more than 800,000.

As the problem grows, it is magnified. The families who occupied the offices at rue de Valenciennes are registered as priority cases for social housing, but their requests have gone unanswered for years.

The housing minister who visited them in January said squatting in office blocks is no solution to the crisis. Such occupations, said Cecile Duflot, are "never very legal."

Under French law, squatting is a civil offence and evictions not simple. In France, no one can be evicted in winter. Data on squatting is hard to find, but the latest estimates suggest it has risen sharply in Paris - helped by increasingly organized activists - to around 20,000 squatters from about 3,000 in 2002, said Hans Pruijt of Erasmus University in Rotterdam, who has studied the practice across Europe.

The aim of Duflot's visit "was to show I understand," the Green party MP told Reuters in her office across the River Seine from the squat. "My compassion is for the woman who before that was trying to raise her children in nine square meters of space."

POLITICAL PAIN

President Francois Hollande, whose popularity ratings are at record lows for a French leader completing his first year in office, has made more affordable housing a priority. In March, he launched an emergency plan to encourage 500,000 new homes a year by 2017, of which 150,000 are to be social housing. The plan includes tax breaks on materials and streamlined procedures.

"We know it will be difficult to reach this target but that is the rate of build we must achieve," said Duflot. The crisis is a top campaigning issue for the main candidates in next year's election for mayor of Paris. But realigning the market will take years: Hollande's targeted building program is about 100,000 more homes than have actually been constructed each year for much of the last decade.

Lasa Georgas, owner of the rue de Valenciennes building, has launched legal action to regain control of his building. Its last tenant - jewellery shop "Histoire d'Or" - moved to a more upmarket site before its lease ran out in March 2012. Lasa Georgas says he had new takers lined up including a private college, and an investor who wanted to buy the building to convert into a hotel. They even made a formal offer, but both projects are now on ice while he sorts out the squatters. Given the local government has intervened to support the families, that may take some time.

One of the building's new occupants is Samia Lacombe, now trying to make a home in two adjoining offices with a sick husband and three children.

Until a few years ago, Lacombe's Italian restaurant business and her husband's job as an engineer funded the 3,800-euro monthly rent on their 160-square-metre (1,722 sq ft) apartment near Jardin Villemin, a garden in central Paris.

But from 2007, just before the global slowdown pulled France into recession, the family's fortunes took a turn for the worse, she says. Not only did the restaurant fold, Lacombe's husband lost his job and was taken ill with what was later diagnosed as a tumor of the spinal cord. The couple split.

Lacombe - who detailed her story for Reuters - could not keep up with the rent and she and her children were put on the waiting list for housing. They're still on the list.

The family was shunted from one hotel room to another. Lacombe's resume, with a string of temporary addresses, has made it hard to get permanent work. Her sick husband, who also struggled to find housing, has rejoined the family in the squat.

"I know anything can happen and we all can be kicked out, but at least I have found some stability here," she said, her voice lowered as her husband slept in the office next door.

Some of her neighbors, many of them immigrants or the children of immigrants, have similar stories: Fariza Taleb, 33, of Algerian origin and also a mother of three, said she had been on a waiting list for public housing since 2009. Her family - her husband works for a chemicals company - lived in her parents' cramped apartment for years. She said it became unbearable.

Others moved in because they were priced out of the market. In the basement, Laura Fedida, 25, shares a suite of offices with three others. After leaving school in Burgundy she moved to Paris to work behind a bar for 650 euros a month and study her passion: puppetry.

"I couldn't afford even a small studio. I was living here and there where I could with friends until I found this."

OVER-THE-COUNTER LIVING

In other European cities such as London, foreign buyers have boosted prices but kept properties empty. In France, such problems also arise in small pockets. But economists say the main problem here is that supply has failed to meet demand.

Since 2000 France's population has grown by around five million, the consequence of immigration and one of the highest fertility rates in Europe. A rise in divorces and the fact young people live alone for longer have also boosted the number of households seeking lodging. Turbulent financial markets since the dot-com crash have encouraged investors to put money in bricks and mortar, and falling interest rates on home loans, now at an all-time low just under three percent, have fueled the demand.

Businesses say high housing prices are hurting growth because they dissuade employees from relocating for work. As many as 40 percent blame housing problems for difficulties recruiting staff, or say it has increased wage demands or reduced productivity, according to a survey by France's Credoc research institute in April 2012.

Some firms are paying out to help accommodate their staff. In 2011, hypermarket chain E. Leclerc built its staff a 2-million-euro apartment block in Saint-Nazaire, an Atlantic coastal town. The company says its 22 rent-subsidized apartments are largely occupied by young singles, couples and a few one-parent families.

Cosmetics giant L'Oreal pays the insurance premium that landlords take out to protect themselves against risks including unpaid rent. Oil group Total offers new staff loans to help with the up-front costs of finding accommodation.

A study by applied economics think tank Cepremap estimated that by 2011 the property boom had added 20 billion euros to companies' property bill over a decade, about a third of the total cost. The inflated value of property has forced companies to increase dividend payments, the study said. The higher value of such assets has lifted firms' market values, making dividend yields look smaller; to keep attracting big investors, firms boosted payouts.

At rue de Valenciennes, owner Lasa Georgas is paying to keep power and water running, for what he called "humanitarian reasons". The building was heated through the winter and some apartments even have air-conditioning.

But the block was not made for families, and it shows. A waist-high counter cuts the main room of the Lacombe's residence in two. They get from one side of the room to the other by using a corridor outside.

The building has plenty of toilets and hand basins, but just one main kitchen and three showers. On the ground floor, children attend an improvised homework club supervised by a member of Droit au Logement (DAL, or Right to Housing), one of the movements that initiated the occupation.

"SYMBOLIC" OFFER

Despite his legal claim, Lasa Georgas is unsure when he will have access to the place, if ever. Hollande's Socialist allies at Paris City Hall announced in April they would make an offer on the building, with a view to buying it to convert into social housing.

In France, local authorities have a pre-emption right to bid for buildings for the wider public good. This does not mean they can force a sale, but it obliges owners to either enter negotiations or challenge them in court, which can take years.

Jean-Yves Mano, the Paris deputy mayor in charge of housing, said City Hall made a "symbolic" gesture to buy the building. He declined to say how much it had offered, but called the price a "significant mark-down" on the market value which a government agency had put at 7 million euros.

He says City Hall uses its pre-emption right on up to 30 buildings a year and has no qualms about bidding low. "After all, we are responsible for looking after the money of the people of Paris," he told Reuters at his office.

Lasa Georgas said the city's offer was 4.3 million euros, which he rejected. He is angry. "I invested in France back in 2005 because at that point Spanish property prices were already sky-high and I thought French law would give me protection. But the authorities seem to have a clear aim of taking away my building." A hearing on the case in early May was postponed on procedural grounds.

Inside the office block, the families are growing tired.

"We just can't see a way out of this," said Lacombe. "We really don't want to make things difficult for the owner. We just want somewhere proper to live."

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(Additional reporting by Emmanuel Jarry in Paris and Natalie Huet; Edited by Sara Ledwith and Simon Robinson)

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6/11/2013 10:55:27 AM

Turkey protests test Obama's ties with Erdogan


Associated Press/Burhan Ozbilici - Riot police chase Turkish protesters on the John F. Kennedy Streetnear the U.S. embassy in Ankara, late Monday, June 10, 2013. In a series of increasingly belligerent speeches to cheering supporters Sunday, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan launched a verbal attack on the tens of thousands of anti-government protesters who flooded the streets for a 10th day, accusing them of creating an environment of terror. (AP Photo/Burhan Ozbilici)

FILE - In this May 16, 2013, file photo, President Barack Obama, accompanied by Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, gestures during their joint news conference in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington. Government crackdowns against protesters in Turkey could test the close ties between Obama and Erdogan, a strategically important U.S. ally in a tumultuous region. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, File)
Turkish riot police charge toward protesters during clashes in Ankara, Turkey, Tuesday, June 11, 2013. Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan will meet with a group of protesters occupying Istanbul's central Taksim Square this week, Deputy Prime minister Bulent Arinc said Monday, as the government sought a way out of the impasse that has led to hundreds of protests in dozens of cities. (AP Photo/Vadim Ghirda)
WASHINGTON (AP) — Government crackdowns against protesters in Turkey could test the close ties between PresidentBarack Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a strategically important U.S. ally in a tumultuous region.

The demonstrations in Turkey, now entering their second week, cropped up after Erdogan's visit to the White House last month, which highlighted a variety of issues on which the U.S. needs Turkey's help. They include quelling the violence in Syria, stabilizing Iraq and stemming Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Erdogan, known for his brash and stubborn leadership style, has responded to the public outcry by questioning the legitimacy of the protesters. In a series of increasingly belligerent speeches to supporters Sunday, the prime minister warned that his patience was wearing thin and said those who do not respect the government will pay.

Hundreds of police in riot gear briefly fired tear gas canisters and rubber bullets at protestors in Istanbul's central Taksim Square early Tuesday, forcing many protestors who had occupied the square into a nearby park. Some groups also clashed with police at one edge of the square, setting off fireworks, firebombs and throwing stones at a police water cannon.

The clash mirrored previous confrontations between Turkish police and protestors, which have also involved the use of tear gas and water cannons. Turkish authorities are trying halt demonstrations, which have spread to nearly 80 cities across the country.

James Jeffrey, who served as Obama's ambassador to Turkey until 2010, said that in private discussions among U.S. officials "there's some wincing at the statements by Erdogan."

But in public, the White House has carefully avoided criticizing the prime minister directly, though the U.S. has urged Turkish authorities to exercise restraint. There also have been no known conversations between Obama and his Turkish counterpart since the protests began.

"We continue to have serious concerns about the reports of excessive use of force by police and large numbers of injuries and damage to property, and welcome calls for these events to be investigated," White House press secretary Jay Carney said Monday. "We also continue to urge all parties to refrain from provoking violence." He did not mention Erdogan.

"This is always the quandary for the U.S. government," said Bulent Aliriza, a Turkey analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "When you get that close to an ally, you become very careful about criticizing them."

That's the pattern the U.S. fell into with former Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak, an autocrat who found favor with the U.S. by protecting American interests in the Middle East. The U.S. only turned on Mubarak after the Egyptian people launched mass protests against his government in 2011 as part of the Arab Spring push for democracy that swept through the region.

Despite the unrest in Turkey, Erdogan doesn't appear in danger of losing power. But the protests have exposed pent-up hostility among many Turks who fear Erdogan is backsliding on his early record of democratic reform and seeking to impose his religious views on the secular nation.

The anti-government rallies started after police launched a pre-dawn raid against a peaceful sit-in protesting plans to uproot trees in Istanbul's Taksim Square. Since then, tens of thousands of mostly secular Turks have joined the demonstrations, turning them into Turkey's biggest anti-government disturbances in years.

For the White House, Erdogan's handling of the challenge to his leadership could complicate Turkey's close but complex relationship with the U.S.

Since taking office, Obama has taken significant steps to point to Turkey as a model for other majority-Islamic nations pursuing democracy and ties with the West. Three months after winning the White House, Obama put Turkey on the itinerary for his first foreign tour as president, a 2009 trip that was aimed in part at resetting the U.S. relationship with the Muslim world. While touring Turkey alongside Erdogan, Obama cast the ties between their two countries as a "model partnership."

Since then, the two leaders have spoken frequently by phone, conferred on the sidelines of international summits and held two White House meetings, most recently in May.

Despite the robust relationship between the U.S. and Turkey, Erdogan has created headaches for Obama before. In 2010, Turkey broke with the U.S. and voted against United Nations sanctions against Iran over its disputed nuclear program. Erdogan also ratcheted up tensions with Israel earlier this year when he called Zionism "a crime against humanity."

The lengthy civil war in Syria has exposed perhaps the deepest rift between Erdogan and Obama. While both want Syrian President Bashar Assad out of power, the prime minister has become frustrated with Obama's reluctance to use military force to end the violence.

Erdogan pushed Obama during their recent talks to deepen U.S. involvement in Syria, but the Turkish leader received none of the assurances he sought.

Obama, however, has proven to have some measure of influence over his Turkish counterpart.

Earlier this year, Obama brokered a truce between Israel and Turkey, which had cut diplomatic ties following an Israeli attack on a Turkish aid flotilla bound for Gaza. Analysts say Erdogan would have been far less willing to accept an apology from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had Obama not also been on the line during the phone call.

Aliriza, the Turkey expert at CSIS, said Obama's success in restarting diplomatic relations between Turkey and Israel underscores the influence Obama could have now in shaping the prime minister's response to the protests.

"There is only one man in this world that Erdogan listens to, and that's Barack Obama," he said.

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