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1/14/2013 10:27:08 PM

California boy, 12, convicted of neo-Nazi dad's murder


RIVERSIDE, California (Reuters) - A California boy, now 12, was convicted of second-degree murder on Monday for shooting dead his neo-Nazi father, following a juvenile trial that centered on allegations of abuse and the young defendant's grasp of right and wrong.

The verdict by Superior Court Judge Jean Leonard means that Joseph Hall, who was 10 years old when he shot his father to death at point-blank range in May of 2011, could be sentenced to a juvenile facility until he is 23.

He faces a disposition hearing on February 15 to determine where he will be placed.

Jeffrey Hall, 32, was a regional director of the National Socialist Movement, a white separatist group. The case in Riverside, 60 miles east of Los Angeles, has made headlines because of his neo-Nazi ties and the rarity of a parent being killed by a child so young.

In rendering her verdict, Leonard said she weighed evidence that the boy had suffered a lifetime of abuse. "He was abused and neglected from the womb," she said. "The NSM taught him things a minor should not know about."

The judge, who heard the case without a jury, said she had determined that at the time of the shooting Joseph Hall understood that what he was doing was wrong, a key finding in the juvenile court case.

"The minor chose his own way and made his own rules," she said. The boy showed little reaction as the verdict was read.

Because Hall is a minor, the purpose of the trial was not to determine guilt or innocence, but whether allegations about his motives and grasp of right and wrong were true.

'NO HAPPY ENDING'

Defense attorneys had argued during the trial that Hall should not be held responsible for his actions because a lifetime of abuse and his father's neo-Nazi activities had conditioned him to violence.

But prosecutors said that the boy, who lived with four siblings, shot his father because he thought he was planning to divorce his stepmother and break up the family. Hall shot his father with the man's own gun.

"This was a very difficult case to prosecute. I have very mixed emotions. There's a lot of sadness in it. Joseph is a little boy and his life has been very very sad," Riverside County Deputy District Attorney Michael Soccio said.

"My position is that the NSM had very little if anything to do with the killing," Soccio said. "The question is, what do we do now?"

Hall's lead defense attorney, Matthew Hardy, called the second-degree verdict a "tragedy" and said it could lead to his client's incarceration in a California Division of Juvenile Justice facility with the "worst of the worst" young offenders.

"If we create a monster, I'm not saying Joseph is a monster but as a society if we create a monster we have some responsibility for what that monster does," he said, adding that he was considering an appeal of the verdict.

Experts say the murder of a parent by a child so young is extremely rare.

Kathleen Heide, a criminologist who specializes in juvenile offenders, has told Reuters that 8,000 murder victims over the past 32 years were slain by their offspring, but only 16 of those crimes were committed by defendants aged 10 or younger.

"There can be no happy ending for our family," Hall's grandmother, JoAnn Becker, told Reuters following the verdict.

(Reporting by Dana Feldman and Dan Whitcomb; Writing by Dan Whitcomb; Editing by Cynthia Johnston, Carol Bishopric and Andrew Hay)


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1/15/2013 2:02:15 AM
Hi again Mike, and sorry for not replying immediately.

When I was 14 years old I, too, was approached by a priest in my school. It was not an aggressive move but one in which the priest/teacher asked me to become 'his special friend'. It was at the end of a class and I am not even sure that he was ill-intentioned, only I did not feel at ease being alone with him and so I left with an excuse. But I told my mother the same day and she told me to keep apart from him, just in case.

In time, when all the heinous cases of pedophile where priests were involved became widely known, I got to fully understand what a great danger I had probably been in, as
I could but imagine the horror their victims had gone through from those actions. On the other hand, I also felt horror at the idea that priests could behave like that; plus it struck me to realize what an awful karma those priests, and those in the hierarchy who had protected them and kept silent on the atrocities committed, had incurred.

There are certain things that more recently have made me somewhat soften my position on all this. The main one, the fact that it is not all, but no more than two or three percent of the priests who perpetrate the crimes; the other ninety-seven or ninety-eight percent are probably worthy priests (or so I hope at least).

As to child adoption by gay people, I have told Myrna what my feelings are. I don't have anything against the LGTB; far from it, I have them in great esteem, all the more when I see they are good, nice people. And
I would not like to initiate a debate, plus I may be wrong on all this; but it is disintegration of family, the very core of human society, that I fear could ensue if child-adoption by them became widespread.

There are other important points about child adoption by gays that should be carefully addressed as well. Next to the one I have just mentioned is, for example, what the adopted children will feel after a few years have elapsed and they see their homes are not like those of other children in the neighborhood, because they only have two fathers or two mothers and not one father and one mother like all the others have. And, w
ill they be discriminated? There is so much at stake in an experiment like this.

Hugs and Blessings,

Miguel

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Hi Mike,

Thanks for your contribution to this subject. I will reply later as I must make a few posts first. So sorry.

Miguel

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This is one thing that gets me where it hurts..This holier then thou people.

How dare these cardinal and catholic leader say anything against someone else. I guess we just swept the boys under the rug. They never harmed a child, did they!
10_1_136.gifHi all,

I was born and raised Catholic. While I was taken my Catecism classes things were alright. I noticed that at the end of class, the priest would point out one boy or girl to help him. Finally, it was my turn. I am seventy years old, and the horror of what happened that day has never left my mind. I was told, of course, not to mention it to anyone because if I did, I could not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. When I got home,I immediately told my mother what had happened. Later, when my father came home, she told me to tell him. When I did, he went into a rage and gave me the worst beating I had ever had, (for lying about the priest) About five years ago, I called the Archdiocese of Fall River and told them about the incident and subsequent incidents that had occured until I finally pushed the priest back, punched him, and knocked him over the pew. They actually sent a women out to interview me from Fall River who had a meeting in Washington D.C. She stopped by on her way back to Massachusetts. After about two hours, she said that she had a solution. She gave me one of her business cards, told me that she would enter me into a physcho ward and that the Archdiocese of Fall River would pick up the tap as soon as I was cured. She opened the door and I told her to get out because the air was beginning to smell. However, with all the lives that they have ruined, (In the name of GOD) they still have the Gall to judge others. I LOVE GOD, and I believe in Jesus, but the Vatican is the biggest Mafia organization in the world because they commit the crimes that become a very slow and agonizing death for their victims. The Bible teaches LOVE, the churches (All denominations teach Hate, Greed, and Deception.

I mention all denominations because I wanted my children to learn about GOD and one day a church bus stopped by and offered to pick up my children and take them to church on Sunday. My ex wife and I agreed. Every so often, the bus minister would stop by and ask if he could take our daughter with him as he was picking up treats for the kids and wanted her to show him what kids liked. About a year went by and the bus minister was transferred to an undisclosed church in a different town. I finally found out from my daughter that he would pick up four or five girls, take them shopping and then he took them to his house where they all stripped down. The rest is obvious. Back home I drove cab. One of my female passengers took my cab one day and she was apparently upset. After asking her what was wrong, she finally told me. She was depressed, so she went to a Rabbi, even though she was not Jewish. She trusted him. After talking with him for awhile, she noticed that he was behind her soothing her shoulders. She said that before to long, he was doing much more.

They all seem to have the right to ruin people's lives, but when, they are about to be caught they are mysteriously whisked off to another city, town, or state to continue their depraved habit, however they seem to have the right to deny others their rights. If two men or two women truly have love in their hearts they will pass that love onto their children. It is true that they cannot produce children of their own, however they can adopt children that have no love and probably give them a better understanding of love then a lot of us could. I believe that everyone has the right to choose their own lifestyle as long as they have no malice in mind.

There is a passage in the Bible that mentions affections and kissing on the lips. Man and man. Woman and woman. I have never understood that. If you are a man and you try to kiss me on the lips, you will get a fat lip very quickly, as I won't do it. However I won't critisize those that do. I apologize for seamingly ranting on, but this is one subject that makes me sick. There are thousands of people just like me that will never get justice because the churches are just to big to fight.

GOD BLESS YOU

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1/15/2013 5:12:39 AM

10_1_136.gifHi Miguel,

There is never a need for you to apologize as you continue to bring us news and information that we need to be aware of. When you mentioned "Special Friend" that rang a loud bell in my mind because I recall that the following week after the first incident the priest whispered in my ear, " Your father called me. He did not believe you, so you are going to become my Special Friend." I am not sure if there is any classification that you can put that type of person in. I should also explain that not all, but some of the people that are homosexual are not always born that way. Perhaps somewhere along their path of growing up they had a tramautic experience with a parent or sibling of the opposite sex which caused them not to trust them. I am not sure where I read it, however the same concerns that you have were discussed by a panel that had the same concerns. Rather than question the same sex parents, they questioned their adopted children. The results were that almost all of the parents had spoken to them prior to adopting them, explaining that theirs was not a normal lifestyle and that there would be a lot of criticism along the way. Depending on how a child is raised will normaly depend on how the child turns out later in life. However I affirm your concerns on the matter, but also feel that both the children in an adoption center who never knew their parents or knew their parents as always drinking, fighting and causing havock, and the gay couple who's only concern is to give a child love and support, should have the right to prove themselves. Not all marriages work out, whether they be Heterosexual or Gay marriages, however I believe that everyone has the right to Love in a way that is right for them. Perhaps I'm way off base, but that is how I feel. Once again, this is not my cup of tea, so keep your Lipton out of my cup.

GOD BLESS YOU

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1/15/2013 10:40:50 AM
Thank you, Mike. I must go on with providing information now. My only wish is that it may turn more positive soon.

Terrorists Taunt France After Failed Rescue Mission


ABC News - Terrorists Taunt France After Failed Rescue Mission (ABC News)


Al Qaeda-linked terrorists in Africa today posted gruesome pictures of a man they said was a French commando killed in a failed operation to rescue a French intelligence agent overnight Friday.

The pictures, released via Twitter by the Somalia-based terror group al-Shabaab, show a white male in a dark blue shirt and camouflage pants surrounded by military gear and weapons. The shirt is covered in blood and the man appears to be dead. As a caption for one photo that shows the man's crucifix necklace, al-Shabaab tweeted, "A return of the crusades, but the cross could not save him from the sword."

In another tweet, al-Shabaab showed a picture of the man and addressed the French president directly: "Francois Hollande, was it worth it?"

The raid was meant to free "Denis Allex," the pseudonym of an agent of the French foreign intelligence service DGSE who was kidnapped in Somalia in July 2009.

Late Saturday, Hollande acknowledged that two French soldiers had been killed in the operation and that it was likely that Allex was executed by his captors. Hollande offered his condolences to the families of the dead but said the operation "confirms France's determination not to give in to the blackmail of terrorists."

Today al-Shabaab put out a press release claiming it had killed "several" French commandoes, but that Allex was still alive. The group said it had "reached a verdict" on what to do with him and would announce it in coming hours.

French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said Saturday that the raiding party slipped secretly into the area but was met with "very strong resistance" on the ground and "very violent combat ensued." In addition to the French casualties, Le Drian said 17 terrorists were killed.

President Obama revealed Sunday that U.S. military forces had been involved in the mission, providing "limited technical support." Obama was required to notify Congress of the action, since it amounted to a deployment of U.S. military personnel, and released the notification letter to the public. U.S. aircraft "briefly entered Somali airspace to support the rescue operation, if needed," but did not use their weapons, the letter said.

READ: US Forces Involved With Failed Somalia Hostage Rescue

Al-Shabaab formally allied itself with al Qaeda in February 2012, but that didn't stop African forces from handing the terror group a series of military defeats in Somalia, eventually pushing them out of all major urban areas in the East African nation.

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1/15/2013 10:43:42 AM

U.S. pledges help to France against al-Qaida rebels in Mali


ABC News - US Pledges Help to France Against Al Qaeda Rebels in Mali (ABC News)

The U.S. today pledged to aid France's widening aerial assault on al Qaeda-linked rebels in Northern Mali, as Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said the U.S. would provide the French with intelligence and airlift support and the State Department said it would send civilian contractors to the region as early as this week to train an African-led military force.

"I commend France for taking the steps it has," Panetta told reporters. "We have promised that we'll work with them and cooperate with them."

Panetta said he did not want to "go into all the particulars" about the nature of U.S. assistance, "but it suffices to say that it's basically in three areas. … One is, provide limited logistical support; two, provide intelligence support; and three, provide some airlift capabilities."

France began military action Friday at Mali's request after the radical Islamist rebels began a rapid advance south. By Sunday, French jets had bombed training camps in militant areas and hundreds of French forces were involved.

Panetta said the rebels' push south had added urgency to the situation.

"It was clear to France and all of us that that could not be allowed to continue, and that is the reason France has engaged, and it is the reason we are providing cooperation," Panetta said.

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said Monday the Obama administration has agreed to help coordinate and train an African-led force, which will be structured under the West African regional organization known as ECOWAS. The force will receive a mandate by the United Nations, similar to the African peacekeeping force in Somalia AMISOM. The United States has historically been the primary funder of AMISOM, but Nuland said it is too early to determine whether the same will be true for the force going to fight in Mali.

"It was France who was requested to help by the Malians," said Nuland. "They had the assets to do it. They were willing to do it. They are asking us to help them in a number of ways that we are now reviewing."

Said Nuland, "We have traditionally had relationships of burden- sharing when we embark on global security operations. It speaks to the strength of our allies and our ability to share burden around the world with them."

For months U.S. officials have been involved in discussions with leaders from France, Mali, and neighboring West African countries about the best way to proceed militarily against the Islamist extremist groups who seized the northern half of the country last April. The jihadists are accused of human rights abuses such as enlisting child soldiers and stoning to death women accused of adultery as they enforce a strict interpretation of Sharia law.

The top U.S. military commander for Africa, General Carter Ham, recently said there is evidence that extremists from other African countries have traveled to Mali to train with the al Qaeda affiliate that has moved into the country.

Intervention by a UN-backed ECOWAS force wasn't expected to come for several more months, but late last week the rebels pushed further south to capture another key city. On Friday, France surprised many by immediately sending warplanes to push the rebels back and is continuing to go after rebel targets in northern and central Mali.

While France has greater political and economic ties to its former colony, the United States has long shared concerns about terrorists finding safe haven in the country's desolate northern region. The U.S. military has been involved in counterterrorism operations in Mali since 2002. In the past decade, Mali has been among several West African countries that received training from the U.S. military intended to improve security in the region by strengthening the nations' ability to defend against jihadists and rebel groups. The U.S. is also involved in intelligence gathering, with the frequent use of surveillance drones to keep an eye on extremist groups.

Panetta told reporters he could not say how long the fight against the Islamist rebel groups in Mali would take, but analysts expect it could become a long, difficult battle against the rebels who are well armed with the weapons that flooded into Mali after the fall of neighboring Libya last year.

"It will likely last for quite some time," said African analyst Mark Schroeder of the U.S.-based global security analysis firm Stratfor. "The rebels in northern Mali have been embedded among the local population there and know where to hide in the mountains."

"This is home for the jihadists in northern Mali, and they are going to fight for it," said Schroeder.


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