Transcript of Archangel Michael’s Comments on SaLuSa, Containment vs. Mass Arrests
2012 JULY 5 1:18 AM
Posted by Steve Beckow

For those who wish to see a transcript of the actual reading in which Archangel Michael amplifies his comments on the reasons why his own message differs from that of our beloved SaLuSa, here it is, courtesy of Ellen.

Reading with Archangel Michael and Steve Beckow, July 4, 2012

Steve Beckow: Many readers say that they cannot understand the differences between your description of the containment and SaLuSa’s descriptions of arrests. SaLuSa does not mention containment, and you do not talk as if any arrests will take place. Can you please give us as specific a discussion as possible of why your two messages appear to differ and how we can reconcile the two?

Here is the original tape:

Archangel Michael on Containment, July 4, 2012

Archangel Michael: As I have said to you … first of all, let us back up, for I do not wish to be seen or felt to be in contradiction with SaLuSa. We come from a slightly different perspective, obviously. Now, let us address this.

The Company of Heaven, and yes, my legion of light, have shared with you very sacred information on what we do and how we proceed, in our way and in the way of what you may see as divine intervention, to address a system, a massive system, because it is not simply restricted [to?] this, what you have thought of as poor behavior, okay, egregious behavior, behavior that has never been of love or light, and how we will choose and have already begun to contain this.

Your planet, my dear friend, has a very poor track record of handling such things as mass arrests in a kind and loving, beneficent manner. And if you wish to look at examples, look to the Holocaust. Look to what has happened in other countries, very recently, when people have been herded.

SB: Or to the evacuation of Japanese from the west coast, Lord. I think that’s another example.

AAM: Yes. It is never kind. It is never loving. And what it does in terms of Universal Law, it is not in alignment. And regardless of how many people are saying that they wish to do this in peaceful, calm manners, there is a part of the human psyche, the collective, that is truly looking for revenge and retribution. And the mechanisms that you have for — and I am not simply speaking Canada or the western world — the mechanisms you have in place for such mass arrests, as you call them, have normally and generally and historically involved, if not actual violence — and normally it has involved actual brutality — it is certainly emotionally and spiritually brutal, because it has that element.

You are not trying to contain people so that they can be rehabilitated or re-penetrated by love. Look at your prisons. Where do you intend to put all these people? How do you intend to treat them? And while we are talking of this, what are you going to do with all the people who are in prisons all over your planet?

It is not kind, it is not gentle, it is not loving, and it is certainly not of the higher dimensional reality. Can the human beings, the collective, choose to appoint themselves and go and start arresting people? Yes. I have asked that this not take place, but we do not override your free will. But what I ask is that what you do come from a place of compassion and forgiveness. This is where it is truly required.

We’re not talking about the person who has slighted you in line at the bank, or the person who has broken your heart, or even perhaps stolen your money, taken your home. We are talking about a mass action that there has been no evidence to date … if this was a year from now our approach would be different. But there is no evidence that we see that those who would be on the delivery line of making such mass arrests would not simply be generating more of the same.

We have heard the argument that people need to see the arrests so that they begin to feel safe and that their hearts, the collective hearts, begin to heal, knowing that the punishment, or the secured … this position has been taken. Is this not exactly the accusation that you would make of your enslavers? Is this not exactly the same behavior?

And there is a second layer to this, my friends. Who, who do you think will be in charge of making and coordinating such a massive undertaking? Well, it will be one who seeks control. And that is what you are breaking away from.

So, are you capable of having mass arrests? Yes. Is it what our plan is? No.

SB: If I can intervene, Lord, the dilemma remains for me, perhaps for my readers, the dilemma is, who are they to believe? SaLuSa says there will be mass arrests, or he says there will be arrests. You say there will not be. The readers are confused. They don’t know who to listen to. Could you please reconcile the two? Is SaLuSa correct? Will there be arrests?

AAM: There will be some arrests, but it will not be on the level that you are thinking of.

SB: So, mostly people will be contained, but there will be some arrests.

AAM: Yes, and look to those who are being contained, and notice what they are doing with the change of heart.

SB: Is John Roberts, the Supreme Court Justice, one of those?

AAM: Yes.

SB: So, can I point to that as an example of somebody who is contained?

AAM: Yes.

SB: All right. So, incredible changes of heart?

AAM: Incredible changes of return-to-original-divine-plan of their heart. Yes.

SB: So, you mean to say somebody can be contained and still carry on as a Supreme Court Judge?

AAM: Oh, yes. In fact, it can be very beneficial, can it not?

SB: Oh, I don’t know. I don’t know very much about this subject, so …

AAM: Yes, think of it this way. If it is of love, if it is of light, if it is of peace, if it is of transformation, then that love can enter out into the world. If it is of hatred, cruelty, greed, limitation, then it will not. In the whole time that someone is in the process of containment, think of it has heavenly rehabilitation.

SB: All right.

AAM: They are penetrated deeply, profoundly — more than you can imagine — by the light and the love. And you already know how intense that is. Until then, all that remains within that individual is the return to light and love. So, do we want to have people removed from their positions? Not necessarily. Because if they remain — and this is a call on our side, not yours — but if they remain in that position and become the true light of love, then they are uniquely positioned to create massive change. And that can be beneficial for the whole.

Now, there are some that will simply be arrested because that is what the human collective wants to have happen.

SB: Can you give us any idea of the size of that group?

AAM: We have been very busy with our containment-undertaking project. We would say that that would be less than 100 people on your planet.

SB: Really? Why then does SaLuSa talk about arrests? Why does he not talk about containment?

AAM: Because that has not been information that has been readily available to [him?] .

SB: So the galactics — well, I don’t know if I should say the galactics — but at least SaLuSa does not know about containment…

AAM: No, it is not their purview to speak of it. It is not their purview to undertake it. This is an action undertaken — and let us say exceptionally rarely — by us.

SB: And who is “us”, Lord?

AAM: By the archangels. By the Company of Heaven. Particularly by the archangels, by the Mighty Ones.

SB: Sorry, I’ve always spoken of the Company of Heaven as if it’s the galactics, the ascended masters and the celestials.

AAM: But do not assume that the galactics have access to everything that we do. That would be an incorrect assumption.

SB: Okay. But it leaves the readers with a picture of there being a kind of a divided effort among the …

AAM: No, there is not a divided effort. It is simply not something that SaLuSa is in a position to address. Much the same way as that I really do not like to address the issue of mass arrests.

SB: All right. So when will this become evident to the galactics?

AAM: How do you mean evident? They are aware of it. It is just not something that they are claiming that they are doing.

SB: But they are part of it?

AAM: No, they are aware of it. There is a difference.

SB: Okay. Well, you realize that I’m going to have to try to make this as comprehensible to readers as possible, because there’ll be much confusion. So …

AAM: What we ask you is to watch, watch the changes — and we are not talking watching for long, because you know that you are on an accelerated pathway. So, the guidance is to observe, to be the observers that we are asking you to be. We are not asking you to go to the streets bearing arms and to become militias of the human collective making mass arrests. We’re not asking you to fall into lock step with military or paramilitary organizations to make mass arrests.

So, as you observe whether there are or there are not mass arrests, you will know, as you observe, are there changes in the leadership that has been abhorrent to us? Do they seem to be shifting in their understanding of what is love? These are your litmus tests. It is not to pit us against one another. It is to be in partnership, one having the approach that they would support the collection … and understand how the galactics also…. Let me speak to this, because it is important.

How galactics or intergalactics would go about collecting those who have, hmm, wronged humanity, who have abandoned the knowing of universal law, is very different and would be far more gentle and peaceful than anything the humans would do. So, even the phraseology — and that is why we have moved away from the using of human language, because of the imprints of what history has meant and what is embedded in your collective memories, whenever you speak of mass arrests.

SB: When can we expect to see the galactics speaking in the same way that you’re speaking? How long do we have to wait before this difference in speaking is reconciled?

AAM: We will have this discussion with them right now.

SB: And so we could expect to see in the channeled messages that come up very soon some alteration in manner of speaking?

AAM: Some alteration in the explanation of what is anticipated.

SB: All right. Well, I’m sure that would be very comforting, and we wait for it with bated breath, I’m sure.

Second question. There are people who — readers — who are greatly annoyed because they waited so long for any tangible, concrete visible evidence of something happening. Now, I realize that the example of John Roberts will help, Lord, so that will definitely show up as tangible proof, but still I want to have asked this question of you on their behalf. They waited for tangible, concrete evidence, and now they hear you saying that these invisible containments will happen, and we can look at them with our third eye or fourth eye and perhaps see it, but there is no tangible evidence, and they have just — stamped their foot and said, “I’m tired of waiting, I want some tangible evidence so I’m not regarded as crazy, so I can point to something and say, ‘This is actually happening.’”

So, and so, when you spoke about your containment, that for them was the last straw. They’re tired of waiting. Could you address them, please?

AAM: We understand what it means to be tired of waiting. And you have not waited that long. Yes, I know you do not wish to hear this from me. But in fact your time of waiting has not been — it has not been for eons within your lifetime, or even a portion of your lifetime. And one of the things that we have repeatedly asked for you is to look for the changes within your sacred self, to look for changes within your family, your neighborhood, your town, to do the work, yes, of cutting cords.

And I know none of you wish to hear that, but I am also not only the archangel of peace, but I carry the blue flame of truth. You will have your evidence. You will have your evidence, and you already do. Look at the skies. Look at what is available to you in your secondary media. Look at the changes that you are witnessing in people’s belief systems. And maintain your balance.

My beloved friends, it is true, you are on the firing line. And you are tired of saying that things are changing and then there is no large, tangible evidence. But your tangible evidence is also within you in how you feel, how you perceive, how you act, how you know. But your systems, you do not want things to crumble too rapidly so that it is complete chaos, so that you are without very basic resources. That is not the way of peaceful transition, of shift.

But look every single day. You are given many, many situations, whether it is in courts of justice or in the news, in a neighbor’s smile, in the children who are remarkable, in the ability to communicate very clearly with Gaia, with cats and dogs and rabbits. Rocks and trees. Look up to the sky and communicate with your star brothers and sisters.

These are tangible. And do not think that everything is a plot. It is not, not on our part, and not on the part of the humans. Yes, there are those who step away from the law, from their highest selves. There are still many atrocities. But this is shifting.

So, yes, even as unreliable as some of your news sources are, look to those that are trusted and note the changes.

SB: Could you give any suggestions of anybody to look to? Because there — I know people will say, well, who? Who could we possibly follow?

AAM: Well, of course it is our platform [AAM's name for the 2012 Scenario], but there are certain … BBC news is more reliable than anything that you have in the western hemisphere.

SB: I thought they were. Okay.

AAM: Stephen Cook.

SB: Yes, well, of course. (Steve: I laughed here as if to say “Lord, you don’t need to stroke our feathers by naming one of us. It’s OK.”)

AAM: Yes, but I need to say this.

SB: Oh, okay.

AAM: Because they need to know that there are voices of truth, of balance and of reality. And yes, as surprising as it is, even Diane Sawyer.

SB: Thank you, Lord. Thank you. I’m going to have to close off because I just have eight more minutes to ask all the questions that I have. So I’m going to have to end here. And thank you very much on behalf of our readers for such a full discussion. Thank you.

AAM: You are welcome. Do not hesitate, ever, to ask me the hard questions.

SB: Thank you, Lord.

AAM: Go in peace.

[end]

Even though I’ve asked people not to write me personally because I’m swamped in email, I’m receiving more email than I can possibly answer, much of it on containment. So perhaps let me answer here rather than so many individual emails.

There are people who’ve suffered grievously and consider the policy of containment as letting the cabal off easily, denying themselves the tangible evidence that the arrests provide, giving them no sense of closure, etc.

And I’m hearing evidence from others about the containment itself that rounds out some of what Archangel Michael said. But I cannot talk about that yet. Nonetheless it does add to the certainty I have that such an operation is in fact in process.

Please allow me to address this matter.

I served eight years as a refugee adjudicator here in Canada and have heard more stories of torture, mass rape, citizen (mob) action, child soldiers cutting off people’s limbs, honor killings, assassinations, genocide (Rwanda, Serbia), etc., than any normal person would hear in several lifetimes.

I don’t think there’s anyone reading this who’s heard more first-hand accounts of the injuries that the Illuminati have inflicted, or that ordinary people have inflicted on their victims, or that mobs reacting to events have inflicted on innocent people than I have. If I were to tell you some of the circumstances, you’d retch in a bucket or go numb.

Perhaps I was given that experience to be able to say this now.

When Archangel Michael said:

“We have heard the argument that people need to see the arrests so that they begin to feel safe and that their hearts, the collective hearts, begin to heal, knowing that the punishment … has been taken. Is this not exactly the accusation that you would make of your enslavers? Is this not exactly the same behavior?” (1)

I know from listening to people and reading the global human-rights literature that once a mass of people – call it a mob, if you will – begins to work, there’s no controlling it. If we began mass arrests, pretty soon we’d see lynchings and every other form of atrocity.

When this site began discussing the process of unseating the cabal, we called it “accountability” – making the Illuminati answer for their actions through legal process. More recently that phraseology became “mass arrests.” But that was not simply a change of words. It represents a change of attitude as well, as Archangel Michael noted. And a change for the worse.

I regret myself that I didn’t see that and had to wait for AAM to educate me. But the celestials saw it and never intended to act on that new direction that we – not the galactics and not the celestials – had created. Yes, SaLuSa used the word “arrests” but he didn’t use the word “mass arrests.” I expect that he was trying to use our word as far as he could. But the celestials have overruled that course of action. And I’m glad they did.

You’ve heard the false message from “Micah” in which he quoted a line from the movieIndependence Day.

“Spread this good news with others and tell them how to bring these sons-a *****es down!” (2)

You’ve also read the false message attributed to Drake in which the writer advises us to lock and load and go out and execute the bastards. (3) How many people can, as I can, ask Archangel Michael if the message is a fake? How many people would know it’s fake? In my opinion, both those communications emanate from the cabal. And both show how soon this human action could be co-opted and go off the rails.

Why would the cabal want us to act in this way? Because they know a few things about human psychology that we don’t. One is they know that, if you create a mob, it can be manipulated by those who are skilful to serve their own ends. Two is that arousing these energies in us will turn us into animals and we’ll lose our grip on the high ground, lose our touch with the higher realms, and be more vulnerable to being defeated by their greatly better-equipped forces. By taking this kind of action, we would push the celestials away from us. They wouldn’t be able to rescue us from our own crimes.

Many times I’ve played for you the video of the Dylan SUV-mounted supergun. I’m not saying the cabal would be allowed to use such a weapon on us but they probably don’t know that. They probably think that this is how they’d control mobs.

Three is that I’m led to believe that they batten off our fear but I don’t really know anything about that circumstance. I’ve only heard it. Four is that they oppose Ascension and what better way to derail it than to have us act like our Atlantean forebears, who also looked to Ascension and descended into chaos and violence? Why not watch us fall under the waves losing the greater part of humanity? They want to go out with a bang. Why not a Big Bang?

We human beings haven’t shown ourselves to be humane, kind or thoughtful when organized into large groups. We respond to the loudest voice, tend towards violence, and feel immensely justified in anything we do because it appears as if it’s a majority decision.

The celestials have intervened. They’re saying that they don’t think the human move from “accountability” to “mass arrests” is wise, they won’t support it, even though they can’t stop us from indulging in it by the law of free will, and what they’re going to do in light of us gravitating towards “mass arrests” instead of “accountability is something different.

Their approach won’t leave this world with the karma that we’d invite by going the route of what we conceive of as “mass arrests,” which invites mob violence and roadside justice.

Some of the cabal are being rehabilitated; some are being placed under various forms of restraint; some are being taken off-planet. The job is being done without us steeping our hands in blood. It wouldn’t be possible for us to prepare for Ascension by offing the cabal. No matter how much anyone has suffered, the answer doesn’t lie in revenge.

So I do hear that people are frustrated, angry, disbelieving, and all manner of states hearing that an idea that we humans hatched (namely, “mass arrests”), not an idea that our heavenly protectors came up with, will not be the way things are going to be handled. But the choice of going the route of peaceful removals and restraint will allow the same goal to be achieved without so many of us descending into violent circumstances from which we may not recover before Ascension. In a very real sense, we’re fortunate that cooler heads have prevailed against our lack of wisdom. (Once again.)

So I do ask you to allow events to unfold. You’ll hear more of the story when it’s safe and prudent to tell it. Until then, we have to trust those who are responsible for the removal of the cabal to know what they’re doing and have our very best interests at heart.

And to those who say that it didn’t sound like Archangel Michael or Steve has been infiltrated by the Illuminati, nothing of the sort is true. I’ve spoken to AAM through this channel for perhaps two years now I think, give or take a few months. I know the feeling of speaking to AAM and it’s something that no one can produce by artificial means. Certainly nothing the Illuminati could produce.

And far from feeling any evidence of having been taken over by the cabal, I’ve never felt better. So please don’t generate any fanciful theories of how things have gone wrong. They haven’t gone wrong. If anything, if you reflect on it a bit and remember those child soldiers cutting off people’s limbs and everyone who’s ever been lynched by a mob, they’ve gone right.

Footnotes

(1) “Transcript of Archangel Michael’s Comments on SaLuSa, Containment vs. Mass Arrests,” athttp://the2012scenario.com/2012/07/transcript-of-archangel-michaels-comments-on-salusa-containment-vs-mass-arrests/

(2) “Message to the People of Earth. Pleiadian Council – Micah. Independence Day,” Disclosure – 2012, June 29, 2012, at http://www.disclosure-2012.com/page/474047947

(3) “Fake Call from ‘Drake’ for Militias to Form Up: No Need for It,” athttp://the2012scenario.com/2012/07/fake-call-from-drake-for-militias-to-form-up/

SaLuSa: July 6, 2012

Channelled by Mike Quinsey

http://treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/Channeled_Messages_by_Mike_Quinsey.htm

Do not let your guard down after such a long time lifting yourself up into the Light. At present there is much disinformation being spread, but not always deliberate and sometimes by people of good intent that are simply uninformed. Also strong beliefs are difficult to change when often they are planted in your mind at a very young age.

Those that have sought to mislead you have been very clever and even altered your history to persuade you their teachings are correct. We will therefore have quite a task on our hands to put right much that is given to you as factual when it is false.

This also applies to the sciences that have made their proclamations without understanding the more spiritual aspects of life and how they fit in. Your intuition is, and always will be your best guide, but by all means consider any source of information that you are comfortable with as a means of verification.

When we give you our accounts of your history, what will be decisive is the fact that we can back it up with absolute proof by way of introducing you to people who can relate events first hand. We can even go back in time and show you an actual replay so that there can be no argument as to the facts.

Some of you will be allowed to go back in time into any period of your history and see with your own eyes what happened. Not only that but you will also understand what is being spoken. Be assured that in time only the truth will remain, and of course you will have made great advancements in your knowledge.

Our coming is to bring you the truth and that will help create Oneness between you, whereas at present you are very much divided. A most important area is concerning the many religions and their attempts to place you under the One God, but lack the true understanding or facts to be able to do so.

The truth will be given by the Masters who will speak to their own, but it will show that each set of beliefs will have to be greatly amended if they are to bear some semblance to the truth. If some souls cannot make those changes to a more enlightened state, they will naturally be allowed to continue to pursue their old beliefs. We know that in time they will realise that if they are to move on, they will have to look beyond them.

There are souls who have been taught that extraterrestrials are devils in disguise, and are out to get them. Whilst Galactic history shows that there were wars started by evil entities that invaded or destroyed planets, you are in no danger of that happening now. You have been protected by us for eons of time, and we have been given the authority to control who is allowed to visit Earth.

We are of service to the Universe in God’s name and are called the Galactic Federation of Light for good reasons. As we have informed you previously, there are exceptions when for karmic reasons contact has been allowed with the Greys, but even so they have never been a real threat to your world.

When we introduce you to members of our Federation you will find no reason to question their purpose for being here. Our whole demeanour has been one of approaching you in peace, and in no way will our conversations or manner pose the slightest threat.

As has often been pointed out, any advanced civilization with the intent to take you over could have easily done so. That is right up to quite recently, as you are now more able to protect yourselves. In fact recently we repelled an invasion that was a last ditch attempt to take you over.

The Light on Earth attracts a lot of attention and certain dark groups have tried their hardest to prevent your Ascension, without success. We will say again that Ascension is by Divine Decree and absolutely no one can prevent it from taking place. Our presence is also intended to ensure that only the minimum interference takes place.

So Dear Ones, your Ascension is not dependent on the many changes that you are aware of that are beginning to happen. They are to advance you very quickly so that you are prepared for a new life that is befitting of souls that have risen into the Light.

You are required to make good the damage and destruction of Earth so that Mother Earth is also ready to ascend. In that task we are already prepared to make short work of the extensive cleansing that is required. It presents no problem at all bearing in mind our advanced technologies.

We know of your frustration at the delays in getting everything going, but it has already commenced if only in a small way. The preparations are complete and as always it is the timing that is critical, but as you know, there is a final date by which it must start at full speed.

So do not worry as you have yet to experience the ways in which we work, and they will astonish you when you realise how fast we move. You obviously tend to see the challenges based on your own abilities, but remember that the Galactic Federation are thousands of years ahead of you. We are in control of your future and promise you a glorious victory over the dark Ones.

We might give hints at when a major event is about to occur, but we have learnt that Humans are prone to take them as certainties, hence the uproar when they do not happen. Plus we cannot always tell you the reasons for delays, and we do have to be prepared to change course at short notice as circumstances necessitate.

All that you really need to know is that come what may, we will keep our promises to you. We realise that your patience has worn thin, and we can understand it as you have quite rightly expected action by now based on what you were told some time ago. However, we reiterate that all proceeds well and in the end we do not anticipate any lasting problems. In any event we are ready for all possible permutations of what is needed to bring you safely through the remaining period to Ascension.

I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and can tell you that the mere mention of arresting top members of the cabal brought about a new feeling of hope. After all, conditions on the Earth were deteriorating quickly and heading for a complete collapse of your civilization. You reacted positively to the good news and it gave you a lift knowing that those responsible for your circumstances were going to be removed – and so it is.

Thank you SaLuSa

Mike Quinsey