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RE: RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: Is IT THE ROAD TO SERFDOM
8/9/2010 5:30:25 AM
Shedding light causes the DARK to recede into the shadows where it belongs. Here is more light via Easy Opinions.


Aug 30, 2008

Leading The People

If You Don't Agree Now, You Will Later Leading The People 08/31/08 http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/08/leading-people.html

The University of Chicago was an intellectual school in 1967 (probably still is), and it had a diversity of students, I among them. Most students were liberal or very liberal; some were aspiring revolutionaries. I had read a little and liked limited government, freedom to start a business, and personal freedom. I doubted that a more powerful government was going to change the world in any good way. This made me a "conservative" in most discussions.

I have a clear memory of the end of one discussion. I was talking to one of the radical guys in my dormitory, call him Brad. He argued that only a radical change in government would bring about a better society. I disagreed. He said that I should join the demonstrations against the University to end the Vietnam war. I thought a sit-in demonstration against the University was misdirected. I suggested the he should demonstrate against the government; the University was not at war.

Read more ...

He said that his movement would become stronger, and eventually I would agree with him. I asked, what if I didn't agree with him, even later? He flashed anger and told me that if I didn't agree on my own, he would make me agree. I saw that as the end of the discussion.

I thought of this conversation when I saw Jonah Goldberg's post of 08/26/08 at National Review (via Instapundit) about the radical bombers Ayers & Dohrn. Goldberg wrote:

I am amazed, simply amazed, at the amazement of many liberals that Ayers and Dohrn should matter to anyone. [snip] Well, it seems puzzlement over the inability of others to get over this stuff extended to Dohrn herself. Fast-forward to 1993. In a predictably sympathetic profile in the New York Times, Dohrn said: "I was shocked at the anger toward me."
People like Brad, Ayers, and Dohrn won't take No for an answer. Their self confidence and superior intellect (smile) tell them that they have the right answer for whatever problem they are interested in. They are better than the people who don't agree with them, and they don't mind using force when they can't get agreement.

Brad admitted that he would eventually force me to do things his way. Ayers and Dohrn knew that their cause justified blowing up their opponents. Dohrn does not understand what all the fuss is about; she only followed the path that she thought was right as a soldier for the good.

Jonah Goldberg referred to some liberals who sympathized with Ayers and Dohrn. Those liberals understand that a vision of change may require coercion. They sympathize that Ayers and Dohrn were admirable in their goals and their willingness to take risks. Bombing was just a bit enthusiastic.

People like Brad propose solutions with the same general theme:

  • They have a solution that will work if we would only stop arguing and agree with them.
  • They may need to omit some information about the new arrangements and what these will cost. They observe that ordinary people do not think well enough to make decisions in their own long-term best interest. Dissenters are either uninformed or selfish.
  • There is no need to argue about the specific meanings of words. The good of the society justifies telling some lies, if it comes to that.
  • They do not limit themselves to offering another possibility. They reorganize everything into a comprehensive new system, breaking the existing relationships between people and defining a new set of relationships described by charts, graphs, committees, and regulations. It is an awesome task that keeps many of them at work in the bureaucracy.
  • They are best qualified by superior education and intellect to implement the solution.
  • The solution requires that we all pitch in and not be greedy. The people with the most resources will put their extra income or property into the pot.
  • There must be complete cooperation. Alternate solutions go against the community spirit, and these are elitist and illegal.
  • There will be severe penalties for non-compliance. All good people will want to comply.
  • If there are not enough resources to pay people for their work according to the solution, then those people with the appropriate knowledge and experience will contribute some of their effort for free. Whatever it takes for success.
  • They will modify or replace the solution if it doesn't work. They will design a new solution the same way they designed the first solution, through thought, research, and discussion among themselves. Further solutions may require more resources.
  • Providers within the solution will be monitored, measured, and adjusted to achieve best practice and efficiency. Daily records and monthly reports will assure that providers are in compliance and are delivering the highest quality services. Payment will be based on written quality measures.
This may seem exaggerated, but it has happened in many areas of American life. It is halfway accomplished in healthcare, with disastrous results.

Brad's Friends want to be elected, then use that power to make your life better, and you better, whether you agree or not. Brad's Friends are not motivated by respect for their fellow citizens or a regard for the truth. They want to produce a grand experiment to make a better world. Eventually, they will make you agree with them.

Links

Lying is Moral When Your God is Electing Democrats
08/29/08 by Jon Sanders at TownHall.com
Conservatives believe lying is wrong. Numerous studies have shown that conservatives are far more honest than political "liberals" As author Bruce Walker pointed out, 60 percent of Americans consistently identify themselves as conservative; in short, "Conservatives are not just a majority of Americans, but an utterly overwhelming majority of all Americans."

So yes, leftists don't have the "luxury" of being able to tell voters, who believe lying is wrong, that they think it's OK to lie to get elected. You see, getting elected is the god of the Left from which all morality flows.

Democrats Offer Stealth Liberalism
08/29/08 Wall Street Journal - Potomac Watch by Kimberley A. Strassel
If today's liberal storyline were correct, a proud "progressive" candidate should win voter acclaim with promises of higher taxes, government regulation, an encompassing health-care entitlement, protectionism and corporate-bashing. We can't know if that's the case, since the "progressive" Mr. Obama is doing such an excellent job of hiding those policies behind the conservative rhetoric of "choice," "tax cuts," "free trade" and "freedom."
How to be Annoying and Useless:
An Introduction to JCAHO and Press-Ganey

04/06/08 by EtoTheIpi at DocsOnTheWeb
A doctor complains about bureaucracy imposed for no real improvement:
Now, Press-Ganey. This is a survey company that asks patients to respond to questions about the quality of care they received. Really it is the PERCEIVED quality of care measured, often from non-paying "customers", who demand perfection and know very little about medicine (a hospital, by the way, is not a hotel. Sorry.) A 'mean nurse' can [ruin] your Press-Ganey scores relative to other hospitals. A doc who will say "no, I know better" to the annoying patient will drop you to the bottom of the list.

Control has been handed to the paper pushers and taken away from the doers. I weep for our profession.

Councils Recruit Unpaid Volunteers To Spy On Their Neighbours
08/30/08 by ThisIsLondon.co.uk (via Instapundit)
Neighborhood Councils in Britain are recruiting 'citizen snoopers' to report litter louts, dog foulers, and even people who fail to sort out their rubbish properly.

The 'environment volunteers' will also be responsible for encouraging neighbours to cut down on waste.

The move comes as local authorities dish out £100 fines ($180) to householders who leave out too much rubbish or fail to follow recycling rules.

'With council tax so high, the last thing people want to pay for is an army of busybodies peering through their net curtains at their neighbours as they put out their rubbish.'

Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools
09/23/08 - WSJ.com by Stanley Kurtz
(edited) Bill Ayers founded the Weather Underground in the 1960's. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

Ayers founded the CAC in 1995, ostensibly to improve Chicago's public schools. The CAC's agenda flowed from Mr. Ayers's educational philosophy, to infuse students and parents with a radical political commitment, downplaying achievement tests in favor of activism. Mr. Ayers wrote in "City Kids, City Teachers" and "Teaching the Personal and the Political," that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression.

Obama and Ayers - 09/23/08 at JustOneMinute (via Instapundit)
Obama explains his relationship with Bill Ayers, in an interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News on 04/27/08.
(edited) OBAMA: Now, Mr. Ayres is a 60 plus year old individual who lives in my neighborhood, who did something that I deplore 40 years ago when I was six or seven years old. We served on a board together that had Republicans, bankers, lawyers, focused on education, who worked for Mayor Daley. The same Mayor Daley probably who when he was a state attorney prosecuted Mr. Ayres’s wife for those activities. I (inaudible) the point is that to somehow suggest that in any way I endorse his deplorable acts 40 years ago, because I serve on a board with him.
Obama, Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge
09/22/08 at GlobalLabor by Stephen F. Diamond
(edited) The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was far more than a chance for Ayers to engage in "radical" efforts to raise the political consciousness of young students. It was a front in a battle for control of the Chicago Public School system. The Challenge represented an authoritarian and bureaucratic agenda - a desperate attempt to foist upon troubled classrooms a "politically correct" curriculum, and to use parents as canon fodder to control teachers and administrators.

The Authoritarian Radicals - Diamond's complete paper is at The Social Science Research Network.

Stephen F. Diamond, Santa Clara University - School of Law (09/1/08)

Abstract: The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was a $160 million dollar reform effort in the Chicago public school system led by Barack Obama and Bill Ayers among others. An analysis of the Challenge suggests that an authoritarian form of politics shared by Ayers and Obama was a critical part of the reform effort. This form of authoritarian radicalism has its roots in the American New Left and Black Power movements. The paper contrasts the authoritarian and anti-union approach of the Challenge with a democratic alternative.

Ayers-Dohrn-Obama Tie Shouldn’t Be Dismissed
10/06/08 - PajamasMedia by Bob Owens

[edited] Obama's campaign manager David Axelrod tried to explain Obama’s involvement with Ayers, “Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. They’re certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together.” This is obvious fiction. Obama's children are in elementary school; Ayers’ children are adults.

Ayers’ wife Bernardine Dohrn has largely escaped recent scrutiny. She was either a leader or the leader of the Weathermen, with ties now to both Barack and Michelle Obama.

Dohrn was a principal signatory of a Declaration of War against “AmeriKKKa”, now a standard spelling among radicals. Dohrn participated in multiple bombings and was accused of planting a bomb at a San Francisco police station that killed an officer and maimed others, according to an FBI informant.

Ayers and Dohrn infamously played host and hostess to Barack Obama’s political “coming out” with a meeting at their home, where outgoing State Senator Alice Palmer tapped Barack Obama to be her handpicked successor.

Other direct connections between the Obamas and the Ayers are much harder to discern and have never been thoroughly investigated.

--------------

Daley reins in radicals the Chicago Way
10/11/08 - Chicago Tribune by John Kass

[edited] Obama and Ayers are neighbors and they worked together on school issues with the same foundation. Obama's political coming-out party was held in Ayers' living room when Obama was running for his first political office. The boss of Chicago is Mayor Richard Daley. Mayor Shortshanks has thrown his protective embrace around both men. These are facts.

The reason Ayers is not a big deal in Chicago has to do with the Chicago Way, and the left fork of that road that has been bought and paid for by the Daley machine, subsidized by taxpayers who foot the bill for public relations contracts from City Hall.

University-educated consultants get city contracts to spin the news, shape symbolism, and tell out-of-town reporters that Ayers is no big deal. They won't bite the hand that feeds them. For an examination of the Daley spin machine—and its cost to taxpayers—please see Tribune reporter Dan Mihalopoulos' story in the Sunday editions.

--------------

NYT Won't Run Op-Ed Criticising Bill Ayers
12/23/08 - PajamasMedia by Bob Owens   --> Article

The New York Times published an Op-Ed article by Bill Ayers on 12/5/08. They declined to publish a rebuttal by Larry Grathwohl. Grathwohl is the only informant to penetrate the Weather Underground for the FBI, and lived the history Ayers wants to rewrite. Here is an excerpt of Grathwohl's reply.

[edited] Billy goes on about how the Weather Underground came into existence because “peaceful protests had failed” and “after an accidental explosion killed three comrades.”

The explosion of the townhouse in Greenwich Village was the result of a bomb factory which was preparing bombs containing roofing nails for use at a Fort Dix enlisted club. The inclusion of roofing nails can have but one purpose and that’s to injure or kill people.

Prior to this event Bill’s wife, Bernardine Dorhn, placed a bomb of the same design at the Park Police Station in San Francisco and killed Officer McDonnell. Additionally, I was still inside the Weather Underground when the townhouse blew up and the commitment to sabotage and terrorism had already been established and the purpose was the overthrow of the United States government.


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RE: RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: Is IT THE ROAD TO SERFDOM
8/9/2010 3:05:59 PM
Just a quick post to stay at the top of the list ;-)

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RE: RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: Is IT THE ROAD TO SERFDOM
8/9/2010 3:07:37 PM
Quote:
Shedding light causes the DARK to recede into the shadows where it belongs. Here is more light via Easy Opinions.


Aug 30, 2008

Leading The People

If You Don't Agree Now, You Will Later Leading The People 08/31/08 http://easyopinions.blogspot.com/2008/08/leading-people.html

The University of Chicago was an intellectual school in 1967 (probably still is), and it had a diversity of students, I among them. Most students were liberal or very liberal; some were aspiring revolutionaries. I had read a little and liked limited government, freedom to start a business, and personal freedom. I doubted that a more powerful government was going to change the world in any good way. This made me a "conservative" in most discussions.

I have a clear memory of the end of one discussion. I was talking to one of the radical guys in my dormitory, call him Brad. He argued that only a radical change in government would bring about a better society. I disagreed. He said that I should join the demonstrations against the University to end the Vietnam war. I thought a sit-in demonstration against the University was misdirected. I suggested the he should demonstrate against the government; the University was not at war.

Read more ...

He said that his movement would become stronger, and eventually I would agree with him. I asked, what if I didn't agree with him, even later? He flashed anger and told me that if I didn't agree on my own, he would make me agree. I saw that as the end of the discussion.

I thought of this conversation when I saw Jonah Goldberg's post of 08/26/08 at National Review (via Instapundit) about the radical bombers Ayers & Dohrn. Goldberg wrote:

I am amazed, simply amazed, at the amazement of many liberals that Ayers and Dohrn should matter to anyone. [snip] Well, it seems puzzlement over the inability of others to get over this stuff extended to Dohrn herself. Fast-forward to 1993. In a predictably sympathetic profile in the New York Times, Dohrn said: "I was shocked at the anger toward me."
People like Brad, Ayers, and Dohrn won't take No for an answer. Their self confidence and superior intellect (smile) tell them that they have the right answer for whatever problem they are interested in. They are better than the people who don't agree with them, and they don't mind using force when they can't get agreement.

Brad admitted that he would eventually force me to do things his way. Ayers and Dohrn knew that their cause justified blowing up their opponents. Dohrn does not understand what all the fuss is about; she only followed the path that she thought was right as a soldier for the good.

Jonah Goldberg referred to some liberals who sympathized with Ayers and Dohrn. Those liberals understand that a vision of change may require coercion. They sympathize that Ayers and Dohrn were admirable in their goals and their willingness to take risks. Bombing was just a bit enthusiastic.

People like Brad propose solutions with the same general theme:

  • They have a solution that will work if we would only stop arguing and agree with them.
  • They may need to omit some information about the new arrangements and what these will cost. They observe that ordinary people do not think well enough to make decisions in their own long-term best interest. Dissenters are either uninformed or selfish.
  • There is no need to argue about the specific meanings of words. The good of the society justifies telling some lies, if it comes to that.
  • They do not limit themselves to offering another possibility. They reorganize everything into a comprehensive new system, breaking the existing relationships between people and defining a new set of relationships described by charts, graphs, committees, and regulations. It is an awesome task that keeps many of them at work in the bureaucracy.
  • They are best qualified by superior education and intellect to implement the solution.
  • The solution requires that we all pitch in and not be greedy. The people with the most resources will put their extra income or property into the pot.
  • There must be complete cooperation. Alternate solutions go against the community spirit, and these are elitist and illegal.
  • There will be severe penalties for non-compliance. All good people will want to comply.
  • If there are not enough resources to pay people for their work according to the solution, then those people with the appropriate knowledge and experience will contribute some of their effort for free. Whatever it takes for success.
  • They will modify or replace the solution if it doesn't work. They will design a new solution the same way they designed the first solution, through thought, research, and discussion among themselves. Further solutions may require more resources.
  • Providers within the solution will be monitored, measured, and adjusted to achieve best practice and efficiency. Daily records and monthly reports will assure that providers are in compliance and are delivering the highest quality services. Payment will be based on written quality measures.
This may seem exaggerated, but it has happened in many areas of American life. It is halfway accomplished in healthcare, with disastrous results.

Brad's Friends want to be elected, then use that power to make your life better, and you better, whether you agree or not. Brad's Friends are not motivated by respect for their fellow citizens or a regard for the truth. They want to produce a grand experiment to make a better world. Eventually, they will make you agree with them.

Links

Lying is Moral When Your God is Electing Democrats
08/29/08 by Jon Sanders at TownHall.com
Conservatives believe lying is wrong. Numerous studies have shown that conservatives are far more honest than political "liberals" As author Bruce Walker pointed out, 60 percent of Americans consistently identify themselves as conservative; in short, "Conservatives are not just a majority of Americans, but an utterly overwhelming majority of all Americans."

So yes, leftists don't have the "luxury" of being able to tell voters, who believe lying is wrong, that they think it's OK to lie to get elected. You see, getting elected is the god of the Left from which all morality flows.

Democrats Offer Stealth Liberalism
08/29/08 Wall Street Journal - Potomac Watch by Kimberley A. Strassel
If today's liberal storyline were correct, a proud "progressive" candidate should win voter acclaim with promises of higher taxes, government regulation, an encompassing health-care entitlement, protectionism and corporate-bashing. We can't know if that's the case, since the "progressive" Mr. Obama is doing such an excellent job of hiding those policies behind the conservative rhetoric of "choice," "tax cuts," "free trade" and "freedom."
How to be Annoying and Useless:
An Introduction to JCAHO and Press-Ganey

04/06/08 by EtoTheIpi at DocsOnTheWeb
A doctor complains about bureaucracy imposed for no real improvement:
Now, Press-Ganey. This is a survey company that asks patients to respond to questions about the quality of care they received. Really it is the PERCEIVED quality of care measured, often from non-paying "customers", who demand perfection and know very little about medicine (a hospital, by the way, is not a hotel. Sorry.) A 'mean nurse' can [ruin] your Press-Ganey scores relative to other hospitals. A doc who will say "no, I know better" to the annoying patient will drop you to the bottom of the list.

Control has been handed to the paper pushers and taken away from the doers. I weep for our profession.

Councils Recruit Unpaid Volunteers To Spy On Their Neighbours
08/30/08 by ThisIsLondon.co.uk (via Instapundit)
Neighborhood Councils in Britain are recruiting 'citizen snoopers' to report litter louts, dog foulers, and even people who fail to sort out their rubbish properly.

The 'environment volunteers' will also be responsible for encouraging neighbours to cut down on waste.

The move comes as local authorities dish out £100 fines ($180) to householders who leave out too much rubbish or fail to follow recycling rules.

'With council tax so high, the last thing people want to pay for is an army of busybodies peering through their net curtains at their neighbours as they put out their rubbish.'

Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools
09/23/08 - WSJ.com by Stanley Kurtz
(edited) Bill Ayers founded the Weather Underground in the 1960's. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

Ayers founded the CAC in 1995, ostensibly to improve Chicago's public schools. The CAC's agenda flowed from Mr. Ayers's educational philosophy, to infuse students and parents with a radical political commitment, downplaying achievement tests in favor of activism. Mr. Ayers wrote in "City Kids, City Teachers" and "Teaching the Personal and the Political," that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression.

Obama and Ayers - 09/23/08 at JustOneMinute (via Instapundit)
Obama explains his relationship with Bill Ayers, in an interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News on 04/27/08.
(edited) OBAMA: Now, Mr. Ayres is a 60 plus year old individual who lives in my neighborhood, who did something that I deplore 40 years ago when I was six or seven years old. We served on a board together that had Republicans, bankers, lawyers, focused on education, who worked for Mayor Daley. The same Mayor Daley probably who when he was a state attorney prosecuted Mr. Ayres’s wife for those activities. I (inaudible) the point is that to somehow suggest that in any way I endorse his deplorable acts 40 years ago, because I serve on a board with him.
Obama, Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge
09/22/08 at GlobalLabor by Stephen F. Diamond
(edited) The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was far more than a chance for Ayers to engage in "radical" efforts to raise the political consciousness of young students. It was a front in a battle for control of the Chicago Public School system. The Challenge represented an authoritarian and bureaucratic agenda - a desperate attempt to foist upon troubled classrooms a "politically correct" curriculum, and to use parents as canon fodder to control teachers and administrators.

The Authoritarian Radicals - Diamond's complete paper is at The Social Science Research Network.

Stephen F. Diamond, Santa Clara University - School of Law (09/1/08)

Abstract: The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was a $160 million dollar reform effort in the Chicago public school system led by Barack Obama and Bill Ayers among others. An analysis of the Challenge suggests that an authoritarian form of politics shared by Ayers and Obama was a critical part of the reform effort. This form of authoritarian radicalism has its roots in the American New Left and Black Power movements. The paper contrasts the authoritarian and anti-union approach of the Challenge with a democratic alternative.

Ayers-Dohrn-Obama Tie Shouldn’t Be Dismissed
10/06/08 - PajamasMedia by Bob Owens

[edited] Obama's campaign manager David Axelrod tried to explain Obama’s involvement with Ayers, “Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. They’re certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together.” This is obvious fiction. Obama's children are in elementary school; Ayers’ children are adults.

Ayers’ wife Bernardine Dohrn has largely escaped recent scrutiny. She was either a leader or the leader of the Weathermen, with ties now to both Barack and Michelle Obama.

Dohrn was a principal signatory of a Declaration of War against “AmeriKKKa”, now a standard spelling among radicals. Dohrn participated in multiple bombings and was accused of planting a bomb at a San Francisco police station that killed an officer and maimed others, according to an FBI informant.

Ayers and Dohrn infamously played host and hostess to Barack Obama’s political “coming out” with a meeting at their home, where outgoing State Senator Alice Palmer tapped Barack Obama to be her handpicked successor.

Other direct connections between the Obamas and the Ayers are much harder to discern and have never been thoroughly investigated.

--------------

Daley reins in radicals the Chicago Way
10/11/08 - Chicago Tribune by John Kass

[edited] Obama and Ayers are neighbors and they worked together on school issues with the same foundation. Obama's political coming-out party was held in Ayers' living room when Obama was running for his first political office. The boss of Chicago is Mayor Richard Daley. Mayor Shortshanks has thrown his protective embrace around both men. These are facts.

The reason Ayers is not a big deal in Chicago has to do with the Chicago Way, and the left fork of that road that has been bought and paid for by the Daley machine, subsidized by taxpayers who foot the bill for public relations contracts from City Hall.

University-educated consultants get city contracts to spin the news, shape symbolism, and tell out-of-town reporters that Ayers is no big deal. They won't bite the hand that feeds them. For an examination of the Daley spin machine—and its cost to taxpayers—please see Tribune reporter Dan Mihalopoulos' story in the Sunday editions.

--------------

NYT Won't Run Op-Ed Criticising Bill Ayers
12/23/08 - PajamasMedia by Bob Owens   --> Article

The New York Times published an Op-Ed article by Bill Ayers on 12/5/08. They declined to publish a rebuttal by Larry Grathwohl. Grathwohl is the only informant to penetrate the Weather Underground for the FBI, and lived the history Ayers wants to rewrite. Here is an excerpt of Grathwohl's reply.

[edited] Billy goes on about how the Weather Underground came into existence because “peaceful protests had failed” and “after an accidental explosion killed three comrades.”

The explosion of the townhouse in Greenwich Village was the result of a bomb factory which was preparing bombs containing roofing nails for use at a Fort Dix enlisted club. The inclusion of roofing nails can have but one purpose and that’s to injure or kill people.

Prior to this event Bill’s wife, Bernardine Dorhn, placed a bomb of the same design at the Park Police Station in San Francisco and killed Officer McDonnell. Additionally, I was still inside the Weather Underground when the townhouse blew up and the commitment to sabotage and terrorism had already been established and the purpose was the overthrow of the United States government.


Rose colored glasses will not quell the light that has become a spotlight. Wakeup Sheeple!

May Wisdom and the knowledge you gained go with you,



Jim Allen III
Skype: JAllen3D
Everything You Need For Online Success


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RE: RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: Is IT THE ROAD TO SERFDOM
8/9/2010 3:23:44 PM
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Those of you that aren't drinking the Kool-Aid will love this one....NOT!

Article Discussion: Obama gets list of top Muslim Americans


Obama gets list of top Muslim Americans

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Denver Post Wire Report
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Updated: 03/27/2009 12:58:19 AM MDT

CHICAGO — In a bid to get more Muslim Americans working in the Obama administration, a book with resumes of 45 of the nation's most qualified — Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and public servants, all carefully vetted — has been submitted to the White House.

The effort, driven by community leaders and others, including U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., was bumped up two weeks because White House officials heard about the venture, said J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, who sifted through more than 300 names.

"It was mostly under the radar," Williams said. "We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn't know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community."


Note from Jim, Muslim-American? Can this be true when they do not accept our "Rule of Law?"

Obama wants more Muslims in his Administration, and to work closely with Muslim community in U.S.

But no worries: his list of potential Muslim appointees has been "carefully vetted." How carefully? We can get a hint of the answer from the involvement of Congressman Keith Ellison (D-MN). Congressman Ellison recently made the Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca that is one of the five pillars of Islam. The Muslim American Society paid for his Hajj. And what is the Muslim American Society? The Muslim Brotherhood.

"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members." -- Chicago Tribune, 2004.

And who is the Muslim Brotherhood? The Muslim Brotherhood "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America," by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991.

Imagine if a conservative Congressman had taken a trip that had been paid for by a Christian group that was, according to one of its own documents, dedicated to "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house" so that Christian law would replace the U.S. Constitution. I expect we would hear more of an outcry than we ever heard about Ellison's Hajj.

"Carefully vetted"!

"Obama gets list of top Muslim Americans," from the Denver Post, March 27 (thanks to Pamela):

CHICAGO — In a bid to get more Muslim Americans working in the Obama administration, a book with resumes of 45 of the nation's most qualified — Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and public servants, all carefully vetted — has been submitted to the White House.

The effort, driven by community leaders and others, including U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., was bumped up two weeks because White House officials heard about the venture, said J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, who sifted through more than 300 names.

"It was mostly under the radar," Williams said. "We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn't know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community."




Postby pftp on March 28th, 2009, 4:50 pm

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=12006596
I don't care what religion a person is. But it appears as though there is some type of "affirmative action" program for Muslims going on here. It is even stranger that it appears as though they wanted this to be under the radar. Why? What happened to transparency? If the person is qualified, the person is qualified. The lack of transparency in this administration just keeps amazing me.

Now we have this tax "subcommittee" that is meeting behind closed doors due to some twisting and turning of the rules. http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerst ... anel_.html

Why? Those people who argued so fervently for the openness that Obama was going to bring to the office, you know the "change that we all craved", where are you?
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The Muslim Brotherhood "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America," by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991.

What does that have to do with Congressman Ellison? Everything. The Muslim American Society paid for his Hajj. And what is the Muslim American Society? The Muslim Brotherhood.

"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members." -- Chicago Tribune, 2004.

Imagine if a conservative Congressman had taken a trip that had been paid for by a Christian group that was, according to one of its own documents, dedicated to "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house" so that Christian law would replace the U.S. Constitution. I expect we would hear more of an outcry than we are hearing about this.

"Ellison: Hajj was transformative," by Mitch Anderson for the Minneapolis/St. Paul Star Tribune, December 18 (thanks to T.K.):

WASHINGTON - There was no fanfare, no press release when Keith Ellison made the pilgrimage to the Muslim holy city of Mecca last week....

Why not? There should have been a big media circus over it.

While he consulted the State Department over any potential danger, Ellison said, he wasn't worried about his safety. He traveled mainly with fellow members of his Minneapolis mosque; no security guards went along. His expenses were paid for by the Muslim American Society of Minnesota.

Ellison said he'd like to make the journey again with his family. His wife is not a Muslim, but their four children are being raised as Muslims....

The Star Tribune doesn't mention that non-Muslims aren't allowed into Mecca, so that what Ellison is saying is that he wants to convert his wife to Islam and then go on the Hajj with her.

From, the PDF mentioned in the article above pay attention SHEEPLE! http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/misc/20.pdf

4- Understanding the role of the Muslim Brother in North America:
The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the word means. The
Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and
destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their
hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious
over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and
have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work
wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack. But, would the slackers and the Mujahedeen be equal.

May Wisdom and the knowledge you gained go with you,



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HI Jim,
Actually I believe those that are still drinking the Kool-Aid are drowning in it by now and are beyond redemption. That said many have been weaned from the Kool-Aid and have started to open their eyes.
Articles like this one and others you've posted on this issue should open the eyes of the dimmest of the dhimmis and B Hussein supporters.
Ellis has been in the back ground pushing for all the most radical of Muslim projects and organizations in the United States. He's the true enemy from within but no one says or does anything about it.
The articles are full of facts that should frighten the sheeples but they have to read it in order to understand how bad the situation is.
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CHICAGO — In a bid to get more Muslim Americans working in the Obama administration, a book with resumes of 45 of the nation's most qualified — Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and public servants, all carefully vetted — has been submitted to the White House.

The effort, driven by community leaders and others, including U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., was bumped up two weeks because White House officials heard about the venture, said J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, who sifted through more than 300 names.

"It was mostly under the radar," Williams said. "We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn't know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community."


Note from Jim, Muslim-American? Can this be true when they do not accept our "Rule of Law?"

Obama wants more Muslims in his Administration, and to work closely with Muslim community in U.S.

But no worries: his list of potential Muslim appointees has been "carefully vetted." How carefully? We can get a hint of the answer from the involvement of Congressman Keith Ellison (D-MN). Congressman Ellison recently made the Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca that is one of the five pillars of Islam. The Muslim American Society paid for his Hajj. And what is the Muslim American Society? The Muslim Brotherhood.

"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members." -- Chicago Tribune, 2004.

And who is the Muslim Brotherhood? The Muslim Brotherhood "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America," by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991.

Imagine if a conservative Congressman had taken a trip that had been paid for by a Christian group that was, according to one of its own documents, dedicated to "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house" so that Christian law would replace the U.S. Constitution. I expect we would hear more of an outcry than we ever heard about Ellison's Hajj.

"Carefully vetted"!

"Obama gets list of top Muslim Americans," from the Denver Post, March 27 (thanks to Pamela):

CHICAGO — In a bid to get more Muslim Americans working in the Obama administration, a book with resumes of 45 of the nation's most qualified — Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and public servants, all carefully vetted — has been submitted to the White House.

The effort, driven by community leaders and others, including U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., was bumped up two weeks because White House officials heard about the venture, said J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, who sifted through more than 300 names.

"It was mostly under the radar," Williams said. "We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn't know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community."




Postby pftp on March 28th, 2009, 4:50 pm

http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=12006596
I don't care what religion a person is. But it appears as though there is some type of "affirmative action" program for Muslims going on here. It is even stranger that it appears as though they wanted this to be under the radar. Why? What happened to transparency? If the person is qualified, the person is qualified. The lack of transparency in this administration just keeps amazing me.

Now we have this tax "subcommittee" that is meeting behind closed doors due to some twisting and turning of the rules. http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerst ... anel_.html

Why? Those people who argued so fervently for the openness that Obama was going to bring to the office, you know the "change that we all craved", where are you?
m m

Keith%20Ellison.jpg
Recipient of Ikhwan largesse

The Muslim Brotherhood "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions." -- "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America," by Mohamed Akram, May 19, 1991.

What does that have to do with Congressman Ellison? Everything. The Muslim American Society paid for his Hajj. And what is the Muslim American Society? The Muslim Brotherhood.

"In recent years, the U.S. Brotherhood operated under the name Muslim American Society, according to documents and interviews. One of the nation's major Islamic groups, it was incorporated in Illinois in 1993 after a contentious debate among Brotherhood members." -- Chicago Tribune, 2004.

Imagine if a conservative Congressman had taken a trip that had been paid for by a Christian group that was, according to one of its own documents, dedicated to "eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house" so that Christian law would replace the U.S. Constitution. I expect we would hear more of an outcry than we are hearing about this.

"Ellison: Hajj was transformative," by Mitch Anderson for the Minneapolis/St. Paul Star Tribune, December 18 (thanks to T.K.):

WASHINGTON - There was no fanfare, no press release when Keith Ellison made the pilgrimage to the Muslim holy city of Mecca last week....

Why not? There should have been a big media circus over it.

While he consulted the State Department over any potential danger, Ellison said, he wasn't worried about his safety. He traveled mainly with fellow members of his Minneapolis mosque; no security guards went along. His expenses were paid for by the Muslim American Society of Minnesota.

Ellison said he'd like to make the journey again with his family. His wife is not a Muslim, but their four children are being raised as Muslims....

The Star Tribune doesn't mention that non-Muslims aren't allowed into Mecca, so that what Ellison is saying is that he wants to convert his wife to Islam and then go on the Hajj with her.

From, the PDF mentioned in the article above pay attention SHEEPLE! http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/misc/20.pdf

4- Understanding the role of the Muslim Brother in North America:
The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the word means. The
Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and
destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their
hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious
over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and
have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work
wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack. But, would the slackers and the Mujahedeen be equal.

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