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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/14/2010 8:20:34 AM
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“If the American people really knew what we had done, we would be chased down the street and lynched.” — President George H.W.Bush to White House correspondent Sara McClendon, 1992

Seated from left to right: Slobodan Milošević, Alija Izetbegović, Franjo Tuđman signing the final peace agreement in Paris on December 14, 1995.

(Milosevic, Izetbegovic, Tuđman, signing the final peace agreement)

During a bloody collapse of former Yugoslavia, USA played a main role. Milosevic was their main character (along with his alter-egos Karadzic, Tuđman and Izetbegović) until The Dayton Agreement ( November 21st 1995). Prior to his political career, while was still a banker, Rokfeller`s pics was framed, in Milosevic`s sleeping room . ( Obituary for Slobodan Milosevic from The Times and Sunday Times, About Hegelian Cover Up ).

Today the rest of the world understands: IF USA IS OFFERING THEIR HELP TO SOLVE ANY ISSUES ... to those whom the help has been offered, ONLY WHAT STILL REMAINS IS GOD`s MERCIFUL HELP :( .

What is up to us?
Understanding.

We people were born with an ambivalent nature.
While up to 98 % of population don`t know either, but to confront that ambivalence (offering all of their capacities to support, or fight against, the CONSPIRACY, becoming nothing than a clay pigeons), the 2% of us, understanding how, use that ambivalence to rise up and to become the condors. A clay pigeons and a condors, never would being able to fly together, or to live in the same nest. All what they have in common is THE SKY ABOVE AND THE GROUND BENEATH, along with the time given to each to create best of the given role.

Yes, I have enough time and patience (even being terribly overwhelmed by it) to write here about Serbia/KOSOVO (or Bosnia) , AL QUAEDA , mafia, narcotics and USA HUMANITARIAN INTERVENTION IN MY REGION .......... but it will make no sense. To the people/condors close to Mr. Fiedur`s understanding, all of this is well known. To the clay pigeons .... this probably will be a bit clearer after passing their own hell of USA humanitarianism. We should not be a pathetic pacifists. Don`t you hear how many citizens of this world are screaming out for the fight??? IS QURAN FRAUD?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Let them find their answers. Creator gave them the right to seek for them.

I am not scared for my head. One day I will die smiling.

I can`t lose any war for I do not participate in it, neither I seek for it.
I can`t lose my own peace for it is what I am.

I ignore all Conspiracy Theories, for they live on behalf of the power I give them, offering my time and beliefs.

IS QURAN FRAUD?????????

Quran is what It says It is. So far, stepping over my 63rd .... that`s the answer I found about it.

Servus,

Anton Petrovci





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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/14/2010 9:14:32 AM
Hello Anton,

To start off with I tried your links but it appears they are all broken.

I'll relate to one statement in your post only in the meantime.
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IS QURAN FRAUD?????????

Quran is what It says It is. So far, stepping over my 63rd .... that`s the answer I found about it.

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I wonder if you read the Koran or are just being politically correct like most of Europe is today? But, in a way what you write is correct it is what it says it is. It is a book that calls on its believers to kill all the infidels non believers. That's you and me unless you're a Muslim. It allows abuse of women and children. It calls for world domination and considers Islam to be the supreme religion in the world and all others are subservient to it. And so much more Anton. So yes unintentionally you hit the nail on the head. And that doesn't include all the perversions of Mohammad that are copied/imitated and revered by Islamic followers in most Muslim countries.

So yes I agree with you. It's all in the Koran for all to read and it is what it says it is. For me and many others Radical Islam is the greatest danger in the world bar none. There are other dangers as well but they are minimized by Radical Islam.

I got you beat by a year Anton. :)

Shalom,

Peter


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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/14/2010 11:36:33 AM
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Hello Anton,

To start off with I tried your links but it appears they are all broken.

I'll relate to one statement in your post only in the meantime.
Quote:

IS QURAN FRAUD?????????

Quran is what It says It is. So far, stepping over my 63rd .... that`s the answer I found about it.

.

I wonder if you read the Koran or are just being politically correct like most of Europe is today? But, in a way what you write is correct it is what it says it is. It is a book that calls on its believers to kill all the infidels non believers. That's you and me unless you're a Muslim. It allows abuse of women and children. It calls for world domination and considers Islam to be the supreme religion in the world and all others are subservient to it. And so much more Anton. So yes unintentionally you hit the nail on the head. And that doesn't include all the perversions of Mohammad that are copied/imitated and revered by Islamic followers in most Muslim countries.

So yes I agree with you. It's all in the Koran for all to read and it is what it says it is. For me and many others Radical Islam is the greatest danger in the world bar none. There are other dangers as well but they are minimized by Radical Islam.

I got you beat by a year Anton. :)

Shalom,

Peter



Hello Peter,

Sorry for the broken links, but it is so obvious that I am a newbie here :). I`ll try to figure out how to re-post them.
Now about being familiar with Quran. Probably you know even a bit about Albanian people and reality. Like i.e. Mother Theresa, I was born in Albanian family with Catholic Christian background (in former SFR Yugoslavia, in the capital of Kosovo and Metohija - Prishtina .) Up to 70% of Albanian population (both: in Albania and Kosovo) are Muslims.
From 1774 until beginning of the communist seizure of power, the Muslim noble class constituted Albania`s ruling elite, but this group never interfered with religious freedom, which was sanctioned by the various pre-World War constitutions.These constitutions have stipulated that the country have no official religions, that all religions have be respected, and that their freedom of exercise should be assured. These provisions reflected the true feelings of the people who, whether Muslims, Orthodox or Roman Catholic, were generally tolerant in religious matters. When Enver Hoxha sit on his Godlike Throne, main religion became Albanianism ...
In former Yugoslavia, country of my birth, all the religion rights were granted. One of them gave a special benefices : communism :) ... but fortunately I didn`t resonate with it`s commandments and sceneries.
I read Qur’ān in Albanian, Serbian, German, English and in Arabic. Much has been lost in translations.
Did you read it?
And just a few words about "BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT AS MOST OF THE EUROPE TODAY."
Well, thanks to a long-lasting Judeo-Christian Oligarchy efforts, our eyes seem finally being opened. We see what we were supposed to see.
Please, remember those words written by ALBANIAN CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN, resident of SERBIA, not only today, but all the time, including 1991-1999. This short description may offer you a many clues/if not answers, if you are seeking for them.

Servus,

Anton Petrovci



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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/14/2010 11:43:18 AM

"I got you beat by a year Anton. :)"

PS Peter, bad thing is that I will come to your place soon, but you will never be again here where I am. Generation of mine - CHEERS !!!!
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RE: Is thisThe Truth About Muhammad: QURAN is a FRAUD !
1/14/2010 1:38:50 PM
I have been following this forum from the beginning and I must say I have a learned a lot. I have been very impressed with the civility of Jim, Peter and Bogdon in stating their personal opinions. Now it seems we have an imposter, a fraud, who has joined the discussion. I think Anton that you are an imposter and a fraud and not who you say you are. Why do I say that? Because when I logged into ALP early on the morning you joined ALP, you had just joined the community and as always the first thing I do is send friend invitations to all the newcomers and then I read back through the post history. There you were grinning like a canary and posting in two of Jim's forums. Never have I seen a new person hone in on a forum as you did almost as soon as you had set up your account. I am fairly certain I know your real identity and no I will not say who I think you really are because you would just say I was wrong. So, I will just keep watching until you make the mistake of letting everyone know who you really are and it will happen. It is just a matter of time.
In the meantime I will just sit back and watch. :)
Have an awesome day.
Evelyn

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