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Re: This is extreamly important. manic depression/bipolar
1/2/2006 5:38:14 PM
Thanks for your consideration and support.What a sad story of that little boy. If no one intervenes he will most likely grow up to be part of the homeless community. I worked for 15 years with homeless people in St Kilda. Most of them had a mental illness. As soon as the government offices return to work I am contacting people. Our system is sadly lacking. My neice is being well cared for now in the public hospital. However I think it will be weeks before she is able to leave the hospital. Then what.She will not be well enough to live independenly and there is no appropriate support housing for these vunerable people. When they are well they have a right to live safely.
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Re: This is extreamly important. manic depression/bipolar
1/2/2006 6:38:56 PM
Hello Cheryl Thank you for stopping by my forum. It is a very sad thing to see so many people in this world suffering with mental illness and allmost nobody really gets the kind of care they need. I get research reports and news feeds from all over the world and it is the same story everywhere. Here in the states, we have a new bill that just went through congress that will make things even worse. No liability for the drug companies whose drugs cause autism spectrum disorders. Not to mention budget cuts for medicaid and housing to the tune of 10 billion over the next 5 years. I have several people from Australia that I communicate with and theior stories are just as sad. It is a shame and I know that you , as well as my self and many others, wish we could do more to help. Take Care Cheryl Mental Health And Political Forums http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=10129 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=9637 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=8212 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=7420 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=8259 Lifetime web building and hosting for under $40. One time payment http://www.superpayline.com/p002859 The most advanced VOIP system there is anywhere. https://wv0079721.betteruniverse.com/members/index.php?action=buy_miphone Better Universe. The People Helping People Company http://wv0079721.betteruniverse.com May a smile follow you to sleep each night, and be there waiting when you awaken. SIncerly, Bill Vanderbilt / Fanbelt
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Re: This is extreamly important. manic depression/bipolar
1/18/2006 5:58:51 AM
Well my niece is back on the roundabout again. She was discharged yesterday. Not because she was well. But, because the psychiaratrist thoght she was forming unhealthy relationships!!!They did not tell her why she was discharged. Now she believes she is well agian. Her mother was not informed that she was discharged. When her mother arrived at the hospital this morning they apologised for the 'oversight'. What follow up plan is in place for this very vunerable 30 yr old woman? She has been placed on a waiting list for a case manager. She has also been told she is too old for many services that are for 18-25 yr olds. Of course she is also too young for aged/geriatric services. So the family will pick up the pieces. My concern is that the stress will cause her moter to have a breakdown. Thanks for 'listening' everyone
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Re: This is extreamly important. manic depression/bipolar
1/18/2006 10:52:43 AM
Hello Cheryl I am sorry to hear about your neice. I can understand your frustration and the pain this might cause your entire family. I have never heard of such a poor excuse for discharging someone from the hospital. If they think her relationships are unhealthy in the hospital, what do they think they will be like outside. Unbelievable!!!! While I am not a professional, I do have a couple of ideas that may help your niece. While she is still on her medication, you might try talking with her about getting involved in a community support group. If there is no support group in your area you might consider helping your niece start one. Contact local churches or community services to make arrangements for a meeting place. Perhaps your niece has friends with similar problems that she can contact to help her get the group started. If you can get her involved in a project like this it will help her with self esteem and give her a sense of accomplishment. It may help her avoid old habits. Try to make sure that someone in the family keeps daily contact with and above all else, offer her love and support. Try to avoid confrontations with her or criticizing her. Most likely, the moment she senses confrontation, she will run the other way. Here in America, peer to peer networks and community groups are fast becomming the norm due to the fact that there are so many cutbacks in services and budget cuts for mental health. I hate to put myself in a position where it appears that i am giving advice but, if those of us with mental health issues don't learn to deal with our own situations, where else would we be able to turn to. We are all dealing with a system that is failing. A system that is outdated, underfunded and getting little support on the political front. SO, please don't consider this advice. Just consider this a sharring of experience and knowledge that has been aquired over a period of 25 years going in and out of the mental health system. From my heart to yours, I wish you all the best of luck and please feel free to come back here and talk any time you wish. You will allways find an ear and a shoulder if you need them. Take care my friend. Mental Health And Political Forums http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=10129 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=9637 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=8212 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=7420 http://community.adlandpro.com/forumShow.aspx?ForumID=8259 Lifetime web building and hosting for under $40. One time payment http://www.superpayline.com/p002859 The most advanced VOIP system there is anywhere. https://wv0079721.betteruniverse.com/members/index.php?action=buy_miphone Better Universe. The People Helping People Company http://wv0079721.betteruniverse.com May a smile follow you to sleep each night, and be there waiting when you awaken. SIncerly, Bill Vanderbilt / Fanbelt
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Re: This is extreamly important. manic depression/bipolar
2/13/2006 2:14:43 AM
I have to say something here. I was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, then it was changed to bipolar disorder, then changed again to personality disorder. I really think that the medication caused a change in symptoms and that when I took medicine for depression it made the anxiety worse, and when I took it for anxiety it made the depression worse. I honestly believe now that I was going through normal grief over the loss of loved ones, my mother and dad, my grandparents, all of whom were very important to me and who I had lived with and grew very close to had died. I was abused by three different husbands, and had children to worry about. Social services stepped in and made our lives hell on top of everything else and gave me no time to experience and get through grieving in the proper way. I was expected to just "get over it." It took a kind and understanding therapist who had known me before I was ill and he told me that if he didn't know any better, he would have thought I was retarded. The medication had slowed my speech down to the point I really sounded like I didn't have a lick of sense. But even with all of this I was able to go to school and made the dean's list four times in a row and kept a 3.85 grade average. I had been told that I would always have to be on medication and that if I took anything like elavil or mood elevators it would cause me to flip out and that I had to have stabalizers like haldol and thorazine to keep me on an even keel. I've taken every medicine known to man I think. They even had me on a drug that's used as a chemical restraint for especially violent prison inmates. It can cause you to break your own back because of the extreme muscle spasms it causes. This drug, prolixin is commonly given to people who have been diagnosed as manic and they don't always get the dosage right. I've been put on the locked ward, put in the seclusion rooms and seen people get knocked across the room with ashtrays and some of the most terrible things you can imagine in these hospitals. So I can speak from experience that being mentally ill is a type of hell in itself. No one can know the full meaning of this without living it firsthand. But after this therapist helped me figure out what was wrong with me and I had a total hysterectomy and recovered from it, I'm a walking miracle. I've come back from the brink of hell and lived to tell about it. There is hope. You don't have to live through hell any more. They've made a lot of advances in mental health and can now treat it with a lot less invasive methods than they did twenty years ago. But they still will try different medications and it's not fun, but it's something you have to do to get better. You may not have to be medicated for the rest of your life. In my case, I gave my life over to the Lord and he took it away. And HE CAN take it all away. He loves you and wants nothing more than for you to be healthy and to prosper, but you can also know that he gives doctors the knowledge to help you. They wouldn't be able to do what they do if not for Him giving them the knowledge. So hold on to your faith and give your life to God first of all, then let them help you. They are so much better at this now than they were back then. I met some of the sweetest people in the hospital and these nurses were there for me and even helped me get to sleep at night. One of them even sat on the side of my bed and joggled it sort of like rocking me to sleep when I was having a fearful time of it. Get the help you need and don't be afraid. They can help you to find the peace that you deserve. It's worth every bit of trouble I went through to have this sense of peace that I have now. And I know if I hadn't gone through this I wouldn't understand it. It's not easy when you're going through it, but it's worth it when you see that they're helping you. Becky
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