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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
11/3/2013 4:14:50 PM
Yeah Evelyn, One epic failure commenting on another epic failure. It is funny. Could have been posted in the joke thread. :)

Shalom,

Peter


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Now this is funny, ridiculous but funny at the same time.


It’s been a disastrous couple of weeks for President Barack Obama. His signature legislation, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, is a slow-motion train wreck. His poll numbers have tanked.

Now, things have gotten so bad for Obama that former president Jimmy Carter has called President Obama incompetent in the family-friendly pages of Parade magazine.

“He’s done the best he could under the circumstances,” Carter said of Obama in an interviewed published on Thursday. “His major accomplishment was Obamacare, and the implementation of it now is questionable at best.”

Carter presided over what was, until the current recession, the longest period of economic stagnation since the Great Depression. There was runaway inflation, high unemployment and an ongoing energy crisis. There was a hostage crisis in Iran involving the capture and imprisonment of 52 Americans for 444 days.

In the summer of 1979, Carter gave one of the least effective speeches any president in the history of the American presidency. The deeply unpopular “Crisis of Confidence” speech became widely known as Carter’s “malaise” speech.

Carter lost his 1980 reelection bid to Ronald Reagan by an electoral vote total of 489 to 49. He won only six states, along with the District of Columbia.

The 39th president’s Parade interview touched on several subjects in addition to Obamacare including his grandson’s role in a hidden camera video of Mitt Romney, the Middle East, the Trayvon Martin case and the recent tribulations of fellow Georgian Paula Deen.

Carter’s wife Rosalynn was also present at the interview and contributed to it.

When asked “how he hopes history will remember him,” Carter joined the rest of America in preferring to skip over his presidency. “I’d like to be judged primarily by our work at the Carter Center for the last 32 years,” he told the magazine. “I don’t mean to exclude the White House. But in my more self-satisfied moments, I think about our unwavering promotion of peace and human rights.”

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RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
11/3/2013 4:25:35 PM
Hi Evelyn,

I'm curious to see how this trial ill progress. There is no doubt in my mind that B Hussein and his regime had made contact with the muslim brotherhood while they were still outlawed by the then Egyptian government. Proff of that is his demand that the muslim brotherhood attend his infamous Cairo speech with front row seats. Showing that some sort of relationship was already ongoing then between B Hussein and the MB.

It would be very interesting if Morsi spills the beans about this and finally showing B Hussein's duplicity and his lack of loyalty to a USA ally of long standing.

Shalom,

Peter

P.S. It doesn't really matter but this article could have been posted in the HSIG thread.

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November 4th Trial Date

Morsi Trial Expected to expose Obama’s ties to Muslim Brotherhood


By Ali Al Sharnoby Thursday, October 31, 2013

Cairo, Egypt--Former Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi’s trial begins on Monday November 4th, (Valentine’s day in Egypt), and intel rumors are rife that the trial will prove President Barack Obama’s ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

If former Chief of Egyptian Intelligence Murad Muwafi, can prove Morsi’s agreement to the presence of terrorists in Egypt and providing them with protection, he will be executed for the crime of high treason.

Egyptian intelligence had begun spying on and recording the telephone calls of ousted President Morsi after it was discovered that he was leaking information to Palestinian Hamas and jihadi groups in efforts to sabotage the Egyptian Army’s efforts to eliminate terrorism in the Sinai Peninsula, mainly the demolition of secret tunnels between Egypt and Gaza, which Hamas was using to smuggle arms, money, drugs and terrorists.

These are the facts Muwafi will present to the trial:

  • The Muslim Brotherhood was linked directly with the CIA—before the massive Peoples’ Revolution of January 25th—and the Barack Obama Administration kept inciting the Brotherhood to participate in events—including the demonstrations.
  • Morsi met with U.S. intelligence in Egypt, negotiating with the Americans on the country’s status before the overthrow of Mubarak. U. S. intelligence officials held meetings in Istanbul, Turkey with International Muslim Brotherhood leader Ahmed Abdel Aaty.

Morsi’s mission was to be the main link between the Brotherhood in Egypt and the International Brotherhood run by Ahmed Abdul Aaty in Turkey. Turkey was to play a mediating role between the Brotherhood and the Americans if the Brotherhood had problems circumventing security services in Egypt.

  • The plan, between the Brotherhood and the CIA, was to cause chaos through riots leading to the collapse of the Hosni Mubarak regime. Attacking police stations and prisons was part of that plan.
  • The Brotherhood expressed their willingness to open communications with Israel if they came to power but failed, so Morsi suggested to let Hamas or Turkey help the Brotherhood to achieve this goal.
  • Morsi admitted in one of the taped phone calls that the chaos in Egypt was planned to happen before it occurred in Tunisia between the Brotherhood and the Americans, but the young liberals jumped the gun, surprising everyone by going out to demonstrate en masse before the Brotherhood plan could be implemented. Stunned and not knowing what to now do, the Brotherhood started to join the Revolution about a week after the youth sit-in at Tahrir Square.
  • In spite of keep-out warnings from the Interior Ministry, the Brotherhood began recruiting support on Facebook and Twitter.
  • The telephone calls between Morsi and the International Brotherhood organization confirmed that Ahmed Abdul Aaty—who came to Egypt from Turkey after the Brotherhood succeeded to get a majority in parliament—was the one who had been giving orders and instructions to Mohamed Morsi before he became president. This continued after he took over the presidency with Abdul Aaty appointed as the director of Morsi’s office, and Aaty remained the decision maker and the most powerful man in the presidential palace, with Morsi only following his orders.
  • Numerous reports and leaks are coming from Brotherhood supporters in Cairo and throughout Egypt with warnings of widespread demonstrations to confuse the police and army and cause a state of chaos in the streets on the trial day. Further Brotherhood activity hints at possible attempts to invade the court to smuggle Morsi out of the country. Word on the street has it that the Brotherhood has provided weapons for the attackers, including machine guns, RPGs, and a number of rockets!

  • Esam Aleryan, last on the Brotherhood Most Wanted List was captured on Wednesday.

    Meanwhile, an Interior Ministry official announced that the trial will be tightly secured—televised like the Mubarak trial—so that Egyptians can witness the events.

    Morsi’s trial Judge Ahmed Sabri, said that he’s not been told about the place of the trial so far, and that all the speculation in the media about the trial setting are all based on incorrect rumors.

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    RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
    11/3/2013 4:28:02 PM

    Hello Friends,

    During the past year the B Hussein regime purged many officers for reasons that aren't convincing in the least. What's been made known to the public were the higher ranking officers that were purged but it seems that over 197 officers from the rank of colonel and above have been relieved of duty for very suspicious reasons (in addition to 157 majors at the end of 2011). The basic understanding is that these officers simply didn't toe the party line.

    Needless to say that the military is not part of any party and is comprised of Americans that have different party affiliations that doesn't affect their military duties.

    Actions of this sort are normally done by dictators who want the military to be loyal to them and not the country they are serving. In addition we've seen similar purges in many islamic countries and the two best examples are Egypt and Turkey.

    Turkey's Erdogan purged the majority of the military's secular generals and replaced them with his own islamist followers and by doing so changed the military to a more radical one. In the past months the purged military leaders were court martialed and jailed for supposedly wanting to overthrow his government. There was never any proof that anything of the sort happened but in islamic countries you really don't need real proof to jail those who you fear might be a problem in the future. This is also why he is so supportive of the muslim brotherhood in Egypt and so against the new government after Morsi and his muslim brotherhood were ousted after the people rebelled and demanded their removal.

    That brings us to what happened in Egypt. Morsi purged all the secular military leaders and replaced them with his people that he thought would be loyal to him and the muslim brotherhood. This boomeranged on him since Sisi (appointed to his position by Morsi) led the military in removing Morsi and the muslim brotherhood from their corrupt power.

    So it seems that B Hussein is taking lessons from his muslim brothers, especially Erdogan who he likes and respects more then the leaders of the western world.

    These purges are dangerous and are a signal of things to come. None of them good. In many articles I've read since the purges of the Generals the claim is that the litmus test now is the willingness of new appointees to fire on Americans. This has been repeated often and when you think of the good people he's purged it sorta makes sense. Time will tell whether these claims are true or not.

    The below article shows just how serious this issue is and hopefully will be an eyeopener to many of his supporters and finally wake them up to the big mistake they made.

    Shalom,

    Peter


    Obama Accused of Military 'Purges'

    The United States military is being "purged" of officers suspected of disloyalty to or disagreement with the Obama administration, several sources charge.

    "We recognize President Obama is the commander-in-chief and that throughout history presidents from Lincoln to Truman have seen fit to remove military commanders they view as inadequate or insubordinate," Investor's Business Daily (IBD) observed.

    "Yet what has happened to our officer corps since President Obama took office is viewed in many quarters as unprecedented, baffling, and even harmful to our national security posture."

    Retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely believes Obama is "intentionally weakening and gutting our military and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being purged."

    According to Breitbart.com, at least 197 officers, mostly at the rank of colonel or above, have been relieved of duty for a variety of reasons, or for no stated reason at all.

    Nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the administration this year, "leading to speculation by active and retired members of the military that a purge of its commanders is underway," IBD reported.

    Among those officers:

    • Gen. Carter Ham was relieved as head of U.S. Africa Command because he disagreed with orders not to mount a rescue effort in response to the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on U.S. diplomatic personnel in Benghazi, Libya.

    • Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette, commander of Carrier Strike Group Three, was relieved of duty in October 2012 for disobeying orders when he sent his group to assist and provide intelligence for forces ordered into action by Gen. Ham, according to IBD.

    • Two nuclear commanders were fired in a single week — Maj. Gen. Michael Carey, head of the Air Force unit that maintains control of 450 intercontinental missiles, and Vice Adm. Tim Giardina, the No. 2 officer at U.S. Strategic Command. Carey was sacked "due to a loss of trust and confidence in his leadership and judgment," while Giardina lost his post for allegedly using counterfeit gambling chips at a casino.

    • Maj. Gen. Ralph Baker, commander of the Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, was fired for alcohol use and sexual misconduct charges. Defense officials told CNN the reason was “loss of confidence.”

    • Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Charles Gurganus was terminated for questioning the "winning hearts and minds" policies that led to the murders of U.S. officers by Afghan recruits, according to FrontPage magazine.

    • Maj. Gen. Peter Fuller was relieved of his command in Afghanistan after he told a media source that Afghan President Hamid Karzai and other government officials were "isolated from reality."

    • On the last day of November 2011, the administration terminated 157 Air Force majors, citing budget shortfalls as the primary reason — a move that some legal experts said was illegal.

    According to IBD, a senior retired general said on the condition of anonymity that "they're using the opportunity of the shrinkage of the military to get rid of people that don't agree with them or do not toe the party line."

    FrontPage concluded: "Obama has made clear that he will aggressively pursue anyone who defies his agenda. Now it seems that chilling message has been sent to the military as well."


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    RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
    11/4/2013 1:01:20 AM
    Very scary and numerous military bases were closed under the Clinton administration and now it looks like Obama is going to finish the military off by getting rid of the top leaders, leaders who probably won't go along with the fraud.

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    Hello Friends,

    During the past year the B Hussein regime purged many officers for reasons that aren't convincing in the least. What's been made known to the public were the higher ranking officers that were purged but it seems that over 197 officers from the rank of colonel and above have been relieved of duty for very suspicious reasons (in addition to 157 majors at the end of 2011). The basic understanding is that these officers simply didn't toe the party line.

    Needless to say that the military is not part of any party and is comprised of Americans that have different party affiliations that doesn't affect their military duties.

    Actions of this sort are normally done by dictators who want the military to be loyal to them and not the country they are serving. In addition we've seen similar purges in many islamic countries and the two best examples are Egypt and Turkey.

    Turkey's Erdogan purged the majority of the military's secular generals and replaced them with his own islamist followers and by doing so changed the military to a more radical one. In the past months the purged military leaders were court martialed and jailed for supposedly wanting to overthrow his government. There was never any proof that anything of the sort happened but in islamic countries you really don't need real proof to jail those who you fear might be a problem in the future. This is also why he is so supportive of the muslim brotherhood in Egypt and so against the new government after Morsi and his muslim brotherhood were ousted after the people rebelled and demanded their removal.

    That brings us to what happened in Egypt. Morsi purged all the secular military leaders and replaced them with his people that he thought would be loyal to him and the muslim brotherhood. This boomeranged on him since Sisi (appointed to his position by Morsi) led the military in removing Morsi and the muslim brotherhood from their corrupt power.

    So it seems that B Hussein is taking lessons from his muslim brothers, especially Erdogan who he likes and respects more then the leaders of the western world.

    These purges are dangerous and are a signal of things to come. None of them good. In many articles I've read since the purges of the Generals the claim is that the litmus test now is the willingness of new appointees to fire on Americans. This has been repeated often and when you think of the good people he's purged it sorta makes sense. Time will tell whether these claims are true or not.

    The below article shows just how serious this issue is and hopefully will be an eyeopener to many of his supporters and finally wake them up to the big mistake they made.

    Shalom,

    Peter


    Obama Accused of Military 'Purges'

    The United States military is being "purged" of officers suspected of disloyalty to or disagreement with the Obama administration, several sources charge.

    "We recognize President Obama is the commander-in-chief and that throughout history presidents from Lincoln to Truman have seen fit to remove military commanders they view as inadequate or insubordinate," Investor's Business Daily (IBD) observed.

    "Yet what has happened to our officer corps since President Obama took office is viewed in many quarters as unprecedented, baffling, and even harmful to our national security posture."

    Retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely believes Obama is "intentionally weakening and gutting our military and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being purged."

    According to Breitbart.com, at least 197 officers, mostly at the rank of colonel or above, have been relieved of duty for a variety of reasons, or for no stated reason at all.

    Nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the administration this year, "leading to speculation by active and retired members of the military that a purge of its commanders is underway," IBD reported.

    Among those officers:

    • Gen. Carter Ham was relieved as head of U.S. Africa Command because he disagreed with orders not to mount a rescue effort in response to the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on U.S. diplomatic personnel in Benghazi, Libya.

    • Rear Adm. Charles Gaouette, commander of Carrier Strike Group Three, was relieved of duty in October 2012 for disobeying orders when he sent his group to assist and provide intelligence for forces ordered into action by Gen. Ham, according to IBD.

    • Two nuclear commanders were fired in a single week — Maj. Gen. Michael Carey, head of the Air Force unit that maintains control of 450 intercontinental missiles, and Vice Adm. Tim Giardina, the No. 2 officer at U.S. Strategic Command. Carey was sacked "due to a loss of trust and confidence in his leadership and judgment," while Giardina lost his post for allegedly using counterfeit gambling chips at a casino.

    • Maj. Gen. Ralph Baker, commander of the Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa, was fired for alcohol use and sexual misconduct charges. Defense officials told CNN the reason was “loss of confidence.”

    • Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Charles Gurganus was terminated for questioning the "winning hearts and minds" policies that led to the murders of U.S. officers by Afghan recruits, according to FrontPage magazine.

    • Maj. Gen. Peter Fuller was relieved of his command in Afghanistan after he told a media source that Afghan President Hamid Karzai and other government officials were "isolated from reality."

    • On the last day of November 2011, the administration terminated 157 Air Force majors, citing budget shortfalls as the primary reason — a move that some legal experts said was illegal.

    According to IBD, a senior retired general said on the condition of anonymity that "they're using the opportunity of the shrinkage of the military to get rid of people that don't agree with them or do not toe the party line."

    FrontPage concluded: "Obama has made clear that he will aggressively pursue anyone who defies his agenda. Now it seems that chilling message has been sent to the military as well."


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    RE: The President That Hates His Country By Joan Swirsky
    11/4/2013 1:04:46 AM
    This is for all the Obama lovers...........................


    The Messiah's prayer


    Please bow your heads as we say the messiah's prayer;

    Our father, who art in the White House, King Obama is your name
    Thy kingdom come, no gun for anyone
    In Socialist America as is in China
    give us this day our monthly food stamps
    and forgive us our college loans,
    as you give us free phones
    lead us not into debt ceilings and
    deliver us to your brainwashing bias media & illegal alien scamnesty,
    for thine is the gaydom, the perversion and the end of America as we know it

    amen

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