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PHILOXENIA INFORMS: Russian Professor Predicts End of USA
2/12/2009 10:29:48 AM
In politics madness is very contagious. Here is a prediction that would make you think twice.


As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.

In Moscow, Igor Panarin's Forecasts Are All the Rage; America 'Disintegrates' in 2010

DECEMBER 29, 2008, by Andrew Osborn


MOSCOW -- For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. For most of that time, he admits, few took his argument -- that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the U.S. -- very seriously. Now he's found an eager audience: Russian state media.

In recent weeks, he's been interviewed as much as twice a day about his predictions. "It's a record," says Prof. Panarin. "But I think the attention is going to grow even stronger."

Prof. Panarin, 50 years old, is not a fringe figure. A former KGB analyst, he is dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry's academy for future diplomats. He is invited to Kremlin receptions, lectures students, publishes books, and appears in the media as an expert on U.S.-Russia relations.

But it's his bleak forecast for the U.S. that is music to the ears of the Kremlin, which in recent years has blamed Washington for everything from instability in the Middle East to the global financial crisis. Mr. Panarin's views also fit neatly with the Kremlin's narrative that Russia is returning to its rightful place on the world stage after the weakness of the 1990s, when many feared that the country would go economically and politically bankrupt and break into separate territories.

A polite and cheerful man with a buzz cut, Mr. Panarin insists he does not dislike Americans. But he warns that the outlook for them is dire.

"There's a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur," he says. "One could rejoice in that process," he adds, poker-faced. "But if we're talking reasonably, it's not the best scenario -- for Russia." Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S.

Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces -- with Alaska reverting to Russian control.

In addition to increasing coverage in state media, which are tightly controlled by the Kremlin, Mr. Panarin's ideas are now being widely discussed among local experts. He presented his theory at a recent roundtable discussion at the Foreign Ministry. The country's top international relations school has hosted him as a keynote speaker. During an appearance on the state TV channel Rossiya, the station cut between his comments and TV footage of lines at soup kitchens and crowds of homeless people in the U.S. The professor has also been featured on the Kremlin's English-language propaganda channel, Russia Today.

Mr. Panarin's apocalyptic vision "reflects a very pronounced degree of anti-Americanism in Russia today," says Vladimir Pozner, a prominent TV journalist in Russia. "It's much stronger than it was in the Soviet Union."

Mr. Pozner and other Russian commentators and experts on the U.S. dismiss Mr. Panarin's predictions. "Crazy ideas are not usually discussed by serious people," says Sergei Rogov, director of the government-run Institute for U.S. and Canadian Studies, who thinks Mr. Panarin's theories don't hold water.

Mr. Panarin's résumé includes many years in the Soviet KGB, an experience shared by other top Russian officials. His office, in downtown Moscow, shows his national pride, with pennants on the wall bearing the emblem of the FSB, the KGB's successor agency. It is also full of statuettes of eagles; a double-headed eagle was the symbol of czarist Russia.

The professor says he began his career in the KGB in 1976. In post-Soviet Russia, he got a doctorate in political science, studied U.S. economics, and worked for FAPSI, then the Russian equivalent of the U.S. National Security Agency. He says he did strategy forecasts for then-President Boris Yeltsin, adding that the details are "classified."

In September 1998, he attended a conference in Linz, Austria, devoted to information warfare, the use of data to get an edge over a rival. It was there, in front of 400 fellow delegates, that he first presented his theory about the collapse of the U.S. in 2010.

"When I pushed the button on my computer and the map of the United States disintegrated, hundreds of people cried out in surprise," he remembers. He says most in the audience were skeptical. "They didn't believe me."

At the end of the presentation, he says many delegates asked him to autograph copies of the map showing a dismembered U.S.

He based the forecast on classified data supplied to him by FAPSI analysts, he says. He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S. When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union. Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow. The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.

California will form the nucleus of what he calls "The Californian Republic," and will be part of China or under Chinese influence. Texas will be the heart of "The Texas Republic," a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence. Washington, D.C., and New York will be part of an "Atlantic America" that may join the European Union. Canada will grab a group of Northern states Prof. Panarin calls "The Central North American Republic." Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia.

"It would be reasonable for Russia to lay claim to Alaska; it was part of the Russian Empire for a long time." A framed satellite image of the Bering Strait that separates Alaska from Russia like a thread hangs from his office wall. "It's not there for no reason," he says with a sly grin.

Interest in his forecast revived this fall when he published an article in Izvestia, one of Russia's biggest national dailies. In it, he reiterated his theory, called U.S. foreign debt "a pyramid scheme," and predicted China and Russia would usurp Washington's role as a global financial regulator.

Americans hope President-elect Barack Obama "can work miracles," he wrote. "But when spring comes, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

The article prompted a question about the White House's reaction to Prof. Panarin's forecast at a December news conference. "I'll have to decline to comment," spokeswoman Dana Perino said amid much laughter.

For Prof. Panarin, Ms. Perino's response was significant. "The way the answer was phrased was an indication that my views are being listened to very carefully," he says.

The professor says he's convinced that people are taking his theory more seriously. People like him have forecast similar cataclysms before, he says, and been right. He cites French political scientist Emmanuel Todd. Mr. Todd is famous for having rightly forecast the demise of the Soviet Union -- 15 years beforehand. "When he forecast the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1976, people laughed at him," says Prof. Panarin.



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Re: PHILOXENIA INFORMS: Russian Professor Predicts End of USA
2/12/2009 10:43:31 AM

Hi Georgious,  I am convinced that man can be convinced of many things that he can find evidence for, but that God has already forseen all that will happen.  The USA has been a Big ? to many as far as end time events.  Will the US just fade from the picture or will this Country founded on Faith in God play a role in the latter days?  I found the following article recently....

 

THE UNITED STATES DISCOVERED IN THE BIBLE 
Rev. Irvin Baxter Jr.
Submitted by Mike Russell

The Bible has much to say about the future of the United States of America.

  • Many people have thought the United States is not mentioned in Bible prophecy; however, this is not true. There is an absolutely amazing prophecy in the Bible that specifically refers to the United States of America!
  • Bible prophecy is written in symbols. This is shown in Daniel 7:23. The angel told Daniel that the fourth beast would be the fourth kingdom upon the earth. Throughout Bible prophecy a beast symbolizes a kingdom or nation.
  • Daniel 7:1-8 records a dream which God gave to the prophet Daniel. In this dream he saw four beasts. He saw a lion with eagle's wings. He watched until the eagle's wings were broken off. Then he saw a second
    beast like unto a bear. The Bible states that a voice said unto the bear, "Arise, devour much flesh." After this there was a leopard with four heads, and dominion was given to the leopard. Last of all he saw a beast like none he had ever seen. The only description he could give was that it was an exceedingly strong and terrible beast. Its predominant characteristic was that it had ten horns. This last ten-horned beast devoured the whole earth and ruled the entire world until the second coming of Jesus Christ.
  • The nations symbolized by these beasts in Daniel 7 will all exist at the time of the second coming of Jesus Christ to establish his 1000 year kingdom. We know this because in Daniel 7:9. Daniel saw the casting down of the thrones of human kingdoms and the establishment of
    the kingdom of God. In verse 12 it states that the nations symbolized by the lion, the bear, the eagle, and the leopard have their dominion taken away at the time that Jesus Christ puts down the kingdoms of men,
    but the lives of these nations are prolonged for a season and a time. These nations will be allowed to live under the millennial reign of the Kingdom of God.
  • In Revelation 20:14 the Bible talks about the time that Satan will be bound for 1000 years. During that time Jesus Christ will rule the earth as King of kings and Lord of lords. The Bible teaches that the church of Jesus Christ will rule and reign as kings and priests with Christ
    during this wonderful millennial reign called the Kingdom of God (Revelation 5:10). During this time, the lion will lay down together with the lamb; the child shall play upon the hole of the asp. There will be absolute peace upon the earth for 1000 years. Just ahead of us
    is the time of the kingdom of God when mankind will learn the path to true peace. The path to peace comes only through the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ. It comes
    no other way.

Who are the beasts?

  • When God chose to prophesy through symbols, he chose symbols that would have meaning at the time of their fulfillment.

The Lion

  • The first beast (nation) in Daniel 7 is like unto a lion. There is a major nation today whose recognized symbol is the lion. In Webster's Third New International Dictionary under "lion", it states that the lion is the symbol of Great Britain. ---* An article entitled "After
    the British Lion, the Russian Bear" appeared in the Indianapolis Star on January 4, 1980. The editors of the Indianapolis Star know that the symbol of Great Britain is the lion. Almighty God knew in 600 B.C. that one of the nations which would exist upon the earth near the end of
    this age and at the beginning of His kingdom would have the symbol of the, lion.

The Bear

  • The second beast of Daniel 7 was symbolized by a bear. We have already referred to the article in the Indianapolis Star, After the British Lion, the Russian Bear". On the cover of Time magazine, May 21, 1984, a large bear was shown biting the Olympic rings in two. This was used because the Soviets were boycotting the Olympic games. The editors of Time magazine know the symbol of the Soviet Union is the bear.
  • In the prophecy a voice said to the bear, "Arise, devour much flesh". Fulfillment of this portion of the prophecy concerning the bear obviously pertains to the revolutionary forces around the world which encouraged the Soviet Union to push the communist revolution to the
    four corners of the globe, Over the last 50 years, the Soviet Union certainly has "devoured much flesh". She has invaded and controlled the Baltic nations, all of Eastern Europe, Afghanistan and many others.
  • Soviet leaders have not believed in God, but God knew the Soviet Union and spoke of her before she ever came into existence as a nation!

The Eagle

  • The Bible says that out of the lion were growing eagle's wings. There is a major nation today whose recognized symbol is the eagle. Take a dollar bill from your billfold. You will see on the back of the dollar bill the official emblem of the United States of America - the eagle,
    The cover of Time magazine on October 27, 1980 shows an eagle and a bear, representing the United States and the Soviet Union, looking over the world. Isn't it incredible that symbols used today on the
    cover of Time magazine are the same ones used in the Bible 2600 years ago?!
  • The eagle's wings were growing out of the lion. Where did the United States of America come from? This is an astounding prophecy that the United States would come out of Great Britain! Great Britain is our "mother country"! This was written in 600 B.C., 2300 years before the birth of the United States of America!
  • Daniel then said, "I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked". He actually saw the American Declaration of Independence from Great Britain in 1776 when Mr. John Hancock said, "I'II sign my name so big on this declaration that King George won't even have to put his
    spectacles on to read it."
  • Then the Bible says that the eagle was "made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it". This refers to the United States adopting the symbol of Uncle Sam. The United States of America has in fact not had the heart of a beast. We destroy a nation that
    pushes us into war. After defeating them, we will go back and build them up again. Because we have mercy on them, they sometimes end up being as strong or stronger than we are, We should never change from
    that attitude because that's the attitude of Jesus Christ himself love your enemies; do good to them that misuse you; pray for them that hate you and work against you. As long as the United States of America will follow that kind of a policy, the blessings of God will rest upon us.
  • These symbols in the book of Daniel were not picked indiscriminately by God. These scriptures specifically state that, when Jesus Christ comes back to establish His kingdom, the nations symbolized by the Lion, the
    Eagle, the Bear, the Leopard, and the ten-horn kingdom will be in existence upon the earth.
    We are not going to discuss the identity of the leopard or the ten-horn kingdom in this article. For a complete explanation of Daniel 7, see "A Message for the President", chapter 1 (See order blank, page 16).
  • This isn't the end of what the Bible has to say about the United States. When we move from the book of Daniel to the book of Revelation, there is another prophecy that contains these same four beasts. In Revelation 13:1 John saw a beast rise up out of the sea. This beast had
    the body of the leopard, the feet of the bear, the mouth of the lion, and the ten horns of the ten-horn kingdom. It also had 7 heads - the total number of heads of all the beasts in Daniel 7. The beast in Revelation 13 was a union of al] the beasts that Daniel saw 700 years
    earlier in the book of Daniel. Revelation 13 reveals that the separate nations Daniel saw will move together into a last day world government.
  • We are seeing the fulfillment of this prophecy right now under what is being called the New World Order. Since the Iraqi crisis the United Nations has become a bonafide world government. It has whipped Saddam
    Hussein into line. Now a resolution has been passed against Libya demanding the surrender of the two intelligence agents for the bombing of the passenger plane over Lockerbie, Scotland, 1988, that killed so
    many people. The U.N. is threatening economic boycott or even military action similar to the Iraq action if Libya does not comply with the resolution. World leaders, meeting in the first Security Council summit in history, recently urged the United Nations to abandon its tradition of non-interference in the internal affairs of countries. Among the leaders issuing this statement were George Bush and Boris Yeltsin. This signals a tremendous leap forward toward acceptance of the U.N. as an enforceable world government!
  • It is especially interesting that the mouth of this unified beast was the mouth of the lion which represents Great Britain. This is significant because the determination has already been made that English will be the international language of this New World Order. Right now you cannot be a pilot on an international air flight unless
    you speak English. You cannot work in an international airport control tower unless you speak English. And all international telephone operators must speak English. God let us know through Revelation 13 that the international language of the end time world government would be English!
  • Notice that the eagle's wings are not present in the beast of Revelation 13. What happens to the United States? Why is it not represented in this one-world beast? There are two possibilities.
  • The first reason could be that the United States is included under the lion since the eagle's wings were originally attached to the lion. This could be true especially since over the last two or three years
    President George Bush has been the foremost proponent of this world government that he likes to call New World Order.
  • The second possibility is that the United States will not continue its present course toward absorption into world government. This possibility definitely exists seeing that the Bible clearly states Europe will be the dominant force in the end-time world government. The balance of power in our world today is definitely shifting to the European Economic Community, the union in Europe over which Germany is exerting more and more power and control. The Scriptures seem to indicate this last scenario is the one that will occur.
    In Revelation chapter 12 there is one more reference to the eagle. In this chapter a woman has a man child. The woman is the nation of Israel, and the man child is Jesus Christ. Satan stood before the woman to devour the child as soon as He was born. The child instead was
    caught up unto God and to His throne. In anger, the dragon went to make war against the woman and the remnant of her seed. This begins the time known as the Great Tribulation. The Bible teaches the Great Tribula-
    tion lasts for three and one half years and will be the time of the greatest political and religious persecution that the world has ever known. When this persecution begins, Revelation 12:14 says, "And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into
    the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent". I believe that those Jews who want to flee Israel in order to escape the pending persecution will be assisted by a massive American airlift. lt is very possible they could be brought to the United States. In July of 1991, Jack Kemp, the U.S. Housing and Urban Development secretary, led more than 1,000 Christians in a spectacular gathering in Memphis, Tennessee,
    to support Israel and raise funds for the continued immigration of Soviet Jews to the Holy Land. The rally was held under the banner "On the wings of Eagles" (Jerusalem Post, July 13, 1991). The United States
    is basically Israel's only friend. It appears that the eagle will continue to stand by Israel to the very end.
    What an awesome book the Bible is! To see the amazingly accurate portrayal of modern nations in prophecy come to pass in minute detail, reminds us that God is still in control of the nations of the world and
    the affairs of men. This prophecy of modern nations proves infallibly that we are very near the second coming of Jesus Christ. Each of us should make absolutely certain that we are prepared. We also should work as we never have before to help as many people as possible to be ready for this greatest of all events!
  • It is obvious that America has a special role to fulfill in the plan of God for these last times. If America is to fulfill that great destiny to which she has been called, there must be a genuine spiritual revival sweep this nation! We must bow ourselves in sincere prayer and return
    to a literal belief in God's Word as the sole guide for our lives and the life of our nation. This will not happen if we wait on someone else to do it. You and I must now!

(The above material was published by ENDTIME, March 1992)

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Re: PHILOXENIA INFORMS: Russian Professor Predicts End of USA
2/12/2009 11:36:26 AM
Hello Kim!

Thank for this very long post and the prophecies of Daniel. I have them from Bible but it is easier to understand them here with comments and analysis. I will study point by point the whole post of yours. There is always new things for me to learn.

Symbols are not always related to certain countries.
I will give you some ancient and modern Eagles.
     
Albania,             Russia,                  Byzantine Empire      Germany (Hitler)



Many other countries has the eagle as seal and national symbol.
As for the Lion I am not so sure th UK lion is so know as the Ethiopian lion, The House of Judah and as far as I know the TABERNACLE (under the Lion last known time after it disappeared from Jerusalem it was held by the Coptic Orthodox Church in Ethiopia.




What I posted is of course not a Biblical prophecy but a documented essay by a modern and living human being, a professor in economy.

At the second appearance Jesus will not care about Jews or Israel, because only those who believe in Him will be saved. Jews and all the others are condemned according to Christian religion. And question is which Christian Church will be accepted, the Orthodox, the Catholic, The Lutheran, The Anglican, the Baptists, the Methodist, the Mennonites, the Mormons, The witnesses of Jehovah, etc. They all claim to be right and all the others heretic. There are at least 4 different bibles today. Which is the right? Christians don't even foolow same sacraments.

Those were just some thoughts!

USA<>ISRAEL
USA=JESUS

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Re: PHILOXENIA INFORMS: Russian Professor Predicts End of USA
2/13/2009 11:42:56 AM

Hello Again Georgios!  I had to come back and reply....

Very good that you provide examples of "other" Eagles; perhaps Daniel is not speaking of the US?  Good thought Georgios; it tells me you are "thinking" man.  Too often people have "narrow" perseption, yes?  Which comes from only personal vision.

I did read article with Respect for knowledge and position of the Soviet Professor; I was not offended.  I think the man is sincere and also do see where he has evidence for his claim.  There are many Americans who look up with wonder and dread regarding this country, and there are many "christians" who believe God is sending doom/judgment.  These "christians" may be the same who believe all others are under God's doom and judgement besides them; I am not one of them.

I think we will be surprised one day discover who the faithful really are!  God does not see as man the outward, but God looks on the heart.  I highly doubt that any people of any "religion" possess the deed to heaven, but those people whose hearts are truly turned toward Him.

It was just coincedental that I had read the article regarding Daniel just before I read yours!  It was the first time I ever saw any scripture suggesting America in the end time events.  I was intrigued; at the same time I know that man does have a drive to seek answers for what is coming upon the world, and he can and does see many things...

What the Soviet man sees is reasonable; my own personal feeling is this....

God has since the beginning had his hand in the rising and falling of Nations and People, and what has seemed would be has not always been; God is able and willing to cause his own will and purposes.  It does also appear reasonable that US could be this Eagle which grew out of Britain. This USA did come to birth in later days as a country under God which has stood for the freedom and justice for all men, which has supported Israel, who are known to be God's people so that any who support them are supported by God...

So I do wonder what role US may really play in end time events.  As often, things will likley not always be as man predicts but as God purposes.

Which Bible?  Which Religion? 

In that day many will say, Lord, Lord, did not I do great works for you and prophesy in your name etc..?  And he will say, "Depart, you worker of iniquity for I never knew you."  Again, God sees in ways that man does not.  There may be "christians" that believe they are the only true people, but all who call themselves Christian are not.   Christians are people who know and serve the One True God, regardless of where they are or what religious name is attached to them.  Christianity is more of a following of Christ in it's true sense than a religious tag, though people often look outwardly.

I do not share this idea that some people are condemned, but as a "Christian" I believe God loves and seeks to bring all men to him, and He is able to see beyond the institutions of man in order to see a man's heart.

As you Georgios, I will like to investigate further what is a new finding to me in Daniel regarding US.  There are many trying to take this country from within, and it appears it is being taken from without due to the extreme number of immigrants today....and I can't say I feel a sure knowing of what will come, but I can say that I and many many others still do possess....

the Spirit that has been this country from the beginning....which Spirit is...
Absolute confidence and trust in God above man.  It will be as God purposes and not as man desires....I still today feel the Spirit of brotherly love for all people; a spirit to fight for the good of all, whoever they are, and to not be persuaded to sacrifice Trust and Allegiance to God for any fears, and there are many more in the shadows who share this "Christian" faith and love toward all of God's people. 

                                                             With Respect,  Kim S

 

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