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Branka Babic

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/9/2009 6:03:30 PM
He spoke about the same subject yesterday, at Jim's topic:

Themotive as you said Evelyn is most probably the money and it's sad tothink what people are willing to do for $200. But we already knew thatdidn't we. As Ecclesiastes said "there's nothing new under the sun".


I think it is time for Pauline for you to speak.
I will provide (forward) a full chat message. Again, ashamed for my words about Carla, Thomas, Sara Blow and specially about you Pauline, but I can post only integral chat messages.


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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/9/2009 6:06:09 PM

NO SUGGESTIONS PLEASE....I WANT A YES OR A NO.....TO THE QUESTION I ASKED

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/9/2009 6:09:22 PM
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Hello Pauline,

Thank you for sending me the link to this thread. Since this open letter has a dual purpose I'll relate to each one separately.

I never post publicly private correspondence unless I have the permission of the party involved but since you've already posted part of our correspondence I will relate to that with my reply to what you wrote.

Now this is the part I find most interesting: HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FAITHFUL TO MY HEARTS CRY, AND RIGHT NOW ITS CRYING OUT TO HIM TO BRING JUSTICE TO ME, and I know he will. VERY SOON!! What exactly is your heart crying for? Justice in what form? Retribution?? You preach one thing and ask for retribution. sounds like base hypocrisy to me. Now I won't do this but I wonder if I posted the above in you AOV and asked you to comment on the person that wrote it what your reply would be? Would it show a person that is all sweetness and forgiveness in public but behind the scenes is looking for a God of wrath to avenge those that she believes wronged her? Interesting thought isn't it?

I would like to explain a few things at this stage. When I wrote what I did it was with great sadness. Let's remember one thing. We were very good friends if not the best of friends. My disappointment was immense and it didn't start with the results of the BFA but prior to that but I won't elaborate on that here.

What ever reason you may have to regret what you wrote they were just words and yes said out of anger but even at that stage I had a hard time reconciling the 2 Paulines the one full of forgiveness and the one looking for retribution. I did send you one final email in which I expressed what I just wrote and never received a reply.

I'm assuming that this open letter is the reply and my answer is I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY. Thank you.

In addition to the apology you wrote the following:

here are some of my posts to you which I am EXTREMELY SORRY I had to write to you in response to your numerous allegations of fixing the bfa, of who the judges were, of bribery etc;I had to forward your letters to Bogdan to let him know first hand of what I was being accused of, and for him to make an accurate judgment.

First of all I never accused you of accepting bribes nor of any etcs. Secondly, you sent Bogdan our correspondence and you write that he made an accurate judgment,

In my last post on this issue (prior to Bogdan's post) I wrote that "this is absolutely my last post on this issue". After Bogdan's post I asked Jim to close the discussion and he did therefor there was no reply to Bogdans post. I did PM him and we exchanged a few PMs and in the end decided we'll have to agree to disagree on this subject..

So Bogdan and I differ on this subject and my beliefs on the results of the BFA remain as is. But as I said last week the issue is closed for me the damage done and good people have left the community.

That said life goes on and your apology is accepted and hopefully with time fences will be mended.

Happy Holidays to all.

Shalom,

Peter


Ah Thank you BRANKA.....read Peters post above where he says he didn't accuse me of bribe etc; SO PETER YOU ACTUALLY LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!



Pauline,
I may regret and feel ashamed, but never will tell I DIDN'T TELL WHAT I DID!
Peter let me know he was a BFA judge, and also Bogdan's close friend.
I really believed you are cheating and taking bribes, and just felt all what I felt (and expressed by words VAMPIRE, POSER, IGNORAMUS, CHRISTIAN HYPOCRITE ... etc.)

I KNOW WHAT ALL ABOUT I WROTE TO PETER, AND WHAT ALL I SHARED WITH THIS MAN ... but I really do not care. I POSTED MY OPINIONS, IN ONE VERY SPECIAL CASE ALSO A PART OF MY EMOTIONAL LIFE ... BUT EACH OF US HAS THE RIGHT TO LIKE OR DISLIKE ANOTHER. TO BLAME FOR SO SERIOUS THINGS LIKE IS CHEATING AT BFA POLL AND TAKING THE BRIBE, ONE REALLY NEEDS TO SHOW THE PROVES.

Sincerely,
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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/9/2009 6:14:52 PM

BRANKA YOU APOLOGIZED AND I ACCEPTED BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD HOW HEARTFELT IT WAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND SO MANY HERE AT ADLAND.

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/9/2009 6:41:32 PM
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Hello Pauline,

Thank you for sending me the link to this thread. Since this open letter has a dual purpose I'll relate to each one separately.

I never post publicly private correspondence unless I have the permission of the party involved but since you've already posted part of our correspondence I will relate to that with my reply to what you wrote.

Now this is the part I find most interesting: HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN FAITHFUL TO MY HEARTS CRY, AND RIGHT NOW ITS CRYING OUT TO HIM TO BRING JUSTICE TO ME, and I know he will. VERY SOON!! What exactly is your heart crying for? Justice in what form? Retribution?? You preach one thing and ask for retribution. sounds like base hypocrisy to me. Now I won't do this but I wonder if I posted the above in you AOV and asked you to comment on the person that wrote it what your reply would be? Would it show a person that is all sweetness and forgiveness in public but behind the scenes is looking for a God of wrath to avenge those that she believes wronged her? Interesting thought isn't it?

I would like to explain a few things at this stage. When I wrote what I did it was with great sadness. Let's remember one thing. We were very good friends if not the best of friends. My disappointment was immense and it didn't start with the results of the BFA but prior to that but I won't elaborate on that here.

What ever reason you may have to regret what you wrote they were just words and yes said out of anger but even at that stage I had a hard time reconciling the 2 Paulines the one full of forgiveness and the one looking for retribution. I did send you one final email in which I expressed what I just wrote and never received a reply.

I'm assuming that this open letter is the reply and my answer is I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY. Thank you.

In addition to the apology you wrote the following:

here are some of my posts to you which I am EXTREMELY SORRY I had to write to you in response to your numerous allegations of fixing the bfa, of who the judges were, of bribery etc;I had to forward your letters to Bogdan to let him know first hand of what I was being accused of, and for him to make an accurate judgment.

First of all I never accused you of accepting bribes nor of any etcs. Secondly, you sent Bogdan our correspondence and you write that he made an accurate judgment,

In my last post on this issue (prior to Bogdan's post) I wrote that "this is absolutely my last post on this issue". After Bogdan's post I asked Jim to close the discussion and he did therefor there was no reply to Bogdans post. I did PM him and we exchanged a few PMs and in the end decided we'll have to agree to disagree on this subject..

So Bogdan and I differ on this subject and my beliefs on the results of the BFA remain as is. But as I said last week the issue is closed for me the damage done and good people have left the community.

That said life goes on and your apology is accepted and hopefully with time fences will be mended.

Happy Holidays to all.

Shalom,

Peter


Ah Thank you BRANKA.....read Peters post above where he says he didn't accuse me of bribe etc; SO PETER YOU ACTUALLY LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!



Pauline,
I may regret and feel ashamed, but never will tell I DIDN'T TELL WHAT I DID!
Peter let me know he was a BFA judge, and also Bogdan's close friend.
I really believed you are cheating and taking bribes, and just felt all what I felt (and expressed by words VAMPIRE, POSER, IGNORAMUS, CHRISTIAN HYPOCRITE ... etc.)

I KNOW WHAT ALL ABOUT I WROTE TO PETER, AND WHAT ALL I SHARED WITH THIS MAN ... but I really do not care. I POSTED MY OPINIONS, IN ONE VERY SPECIAL CASE ALSO A PART OF MY EMOTIONAL LIFE ... BUT EACH OF US HAS THE RIGHT TO LIKE OR DISLIKE ANOTHER. TO BLAME FOR SO SERIOUS THINGS LIKE IS CHEATING AT BFA POLL AND TAKING THE BRIBE, ONE REALLY NEEDS TO SHOW THE PROVES.

Sincerely,
Branka Babic

YES BRANKA I AM SERIOUSLY THINKING OF FINALLY TAKING ACTION IN THIS REGARD..AS I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT FOR TOO LONG. HOLDING THE BFA POST OR NOT.....CONSEQUENCES THERE WILL BE FOR THESE ALLEGATIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS !

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