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Kathleen Vanbeekom

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/12/2009 6:11:33 PM
Hi Pat,

Sometimes change is needed, such as with the POTW, people didn't like looking for their own 7 people so I looked around and made a big list of eligible people, and the voters are also valid. I put in the extra work of doing that after complaints and harrassment. I know for a fact that one person on the eligible list has 6 accounts but only 1 with active forums and he's only allowed to vote thru 1 account since his name is on ALL of them, and his photo on 3 of them, and no photo on the other 3. So that weeded out 5 fake votes right there, but who knows if he's voting 6 times on the BFA. The prize is 15,000 banner impressions, so every week for 4 years of non-valid electronic ballots, that was about 200 winners multiplied by 15,000 banners at the top of Adlandpro pages, equals 3,000,000 banner impressions of maybe honest or maybe not so honest banner winners that we are clicking on, looking for business opportunities to join with those people, hopefully honest.

The BFA is the largest prize election in this community...here's how it goes:

Contains anonymous team members helping.

Starts with a non-valid electronic ballot.

Goes to anonymous judges.

Finishes with anonymous team members helping.

The prize is paid with money from paying community members and advertisers.

Bogdan forgets most of the names of the anonymous helpers.






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Pauline Raina

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/12/2009 6:19:11 PM
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Hi Pauline,

In future, I think any anonymous help with the postings at BFA should have their names on it as public team members so if mistakes are made in accidentally discluding forums, the person who posted the mistake would be accountable, not just you and Joe as the captains of the ship. If you're taking full responsibility for any mistakes that were not your doing, that's very commendable. If that's the case then I'd say NO you should not resign. My post from last weekend was to the BFA Team, public or anonymous team helpers, not just to you individually.

Kathleen,

as moderator of the BFA, in as much it was a team member's oversight, I felt I should have first checked before giving my opinion that an inactive forum was not to be included in the poll. I even shot of a 'pm' to Ana asking her to activate her forum and have it nominated the following month because we were running far behind schedule and I was working to bring it up to date as it is usually done...if you notice we did just 3 days of voting and about 5 days of nominating. I sent judges msgs asking them to get back to me with the scores asap as they didnt have a week as usual. Also after posting a poll you cant go and add or take away. it would have had to be scrapped. and since this was a monthly feature I didn't think it otherwise to ask for Ana's forum to be nominated again next month. The intention that has been insinuated is far from the truth. And yes I take responsability for what happened. Ana has forgiven me and I am happy that there is no air of contention at all between us. THANK YOU ANA you are a gracious lady !!! About the rest.......they like cattle are still chewing the cud.....LOL....happy chewing to them if that makes them happy and swells their ego...well cheers to their swelled EGO !!!

Pauline

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Pauline Raina

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/12/2009 6:26:06 PM
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Hi Pat,

Sometimes change is needed, such as with the POTW, people didn't like looking for their own 7 people so I looked around and made a big list of eligible people, and the voters are also valid. I put in the extra work of doing that after complaints and harrassment. I know for a fact that one person on the eligible list has 6 accounts but only 1 with active forums and he's only allowed to vote thru 1 account since his name is on ALL of them, and his photo on 3 of them, and no photo on the other 3. So that weeded out 5 fake votes right there, but who knows if he's voting 6 times on the BFA. The prize is 15,000 banner impressions, so every week for 4 years of non-valid electronic ballots, that was about 200 winners multiplied by 15,000 banners at the top of Adlandpro pages, equals 3,000,000 banner impressions of maybe honest or maybe not so honest banner winners that we are clicking on, looking for business opportunities to join with those people, hopefully honest.

The BFA is the largest prize election in this community...here's how it goes:

Contains anonymous team members helping.

Starts with a non-valid electronic ballot.

Goes to anonymous judges.

Finishes with anonymous team members helping.

The prize is paid with money from paying community members and advertisers.

Bogdan forgets most of the names of the anonymous helpers.






Kathleen

helpers were here only to help while I was away ! just to keep things going. Not when Joe and I were here always. Judges have been anonymous for reasons I shouldn't have to explain......you know the reason very well.

Again I say I vote for 'write in votes' to rule out .....well you know what :)) ........LOL

About the prize money....well Bogdan is the CEO and does as he wishes..his intentions are good and should not be misconstrued

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/12/2009 6:28:00 PM

Hi Pauline and Kathleen,

Kathleen, did you posted about asking an anonymous helper while you were absent?
WHY DOUBLE STANDARDS?

I am trying to figure out WHAT ACTUALLY YOU KATHLEEN WANT!
Do YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE ABOUT BFA?

I am not arguing - just discussing. AND YOUR RESPONSES WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED.
Sincerely,
Luka Babic, son of anonymous helper to the both teams, who is dead tired each day from her own job, BUT NEVER RESISTED TO DO ANYTHING WHAT WAS ASKED TO DO.
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Kathleen Vanbeekom

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/12/2009 6:28:47 PM
Hi Pauline,

I know the intentions are good from Bogdan and you and all who help.
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