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Luis Miguel Goitizolo

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/10/2009 10:07:57 PM

Dear Pauline,

If there is something that I am absolutely sure is that you will never have anything to do with anything wrong or incorrect here or anyhere. To me, and I am sure to most of good Adland members, your integrity and honesty are beyond all doubt as is your goodwill to all. In my eyes, you always had and will always radiate a spiritual beauty that comes from your innermost self.

I never seem to be very familiar with what happens here in Adland, but I have tried to learn about this matter as much as possible, even reading old posts in several forums; and after examining them dispassionately I have found nothing that can throw the least possible spot of blame on you. Really, it is incredible how certain people can magnify a perfectly understandable and inocent mistake, such as your overlooking that Ana Maria's forum was inactive. How can they be so sure that they, only they, own the truth about everything.

Summing up, I am deeply ashamed with what those people have been insinuating about you and other members in this community. But the shame goes back on them. I hope you can forgive them for what they have been doing to you - even if they actually don't deserve to be forgiven - so that you can enjoy the inner peace that you deserve.

Sincerely,

Luis Miguel Goitizolo

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/11/2009 12:17:03 AM
Quote:

Dear Pauline,

If there is something that I am absolutely sure is that you will never have anything to do with anything wrong or incorrect here or anyhere. To me, and I am sure to most of good Adland members, your integrity and honesty are beyond all doubt as is your goodwill to all. In my eyes, you always had and will always radiate a spiritual beauty that comes from your innermost self.

I never seem to be very familiar with what happens here in Adland, but I have tried to learn about this matter as much as possible, even reading old posts in several forums; and after examining them dispassionately I have found nothing that can throw the least possible spot of blame on you. Really, it is incredible how certain people can magnify a perfectly understandable and inocent mistake, such as your overlooking that Ana Maria's forum was inactive. How can they be so sure that they, only they, own the truth about everything.

Summing up, I am deeply ashamed with what those people have been insinuating about you and other members in this community. But the shame goes back on them. I hope you can forgive them for what they have been doing to you - even if they actually don't deserve to be forgiven - so that you can enjoy the inner peace that you deserve.

Sincerely,

Luis Miguel Goitizolo



Dear Sir Luis Miguel,

I am very touched by your words and can understand you perfectly, for feeling personally ashamed for those ..... insinuations about Pauline. I felt the same.
My young age tries to understand absolutely LUCK OF SHAME by the people who intentionally were/are spreading lies and negativeness around, and still picture themselves here. IF I WAS ON THEIR PLACE YESTERDAY - I'd bury my worthless head 10 meters deep in the ground and no one could convince me to put it up ever.
But - all what we can - is to redirect our attention. Still, here we can find a many people who deserve time, energy and words.
No one here have spoken about Pauline. But each about himself.

Sir - sending you a many blessings and thank yous for giving your support to our Pauline!

Sincerely,
Luka


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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/11/2009 5:06:02 AM

NO

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BFA nominations for December 2009
11/9/2009 7:51:00 PM
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I'm nominating Ana Maria Padurean's forum:
ROMANIA:

It's active, it was reactivated personally by Bogdan a couple months ago and stated as such in another forum. The BFA team should have clicked to check it last month, it doesn't take long to check a FEW forums. What's the point of requiring the link to be posted in the nomination if the BFA team doesn't click the links?

TIME? The nominations are up for a long time before the voting starts.

I'll again say I don't like the judging, the "Top 3" means nothing as long as there are still lots of people who have multiple accounts. Judging the "Top 3" means nothing.



First of all Thank you Kathleen for nominating Ana's forum this month. We are happy to have her forum participate.

About the over sight...yes you are 100% right that it takes a few moments to check if the forum is active....I have taken responsability for that and am truly sorry for not checking.

About the top voted forums....and point rewards....well I favor write in votes 100%....but it is not in my power to change the rules. Bogdan is the one to do so. We are here just to carry them out.

I wish to thank all our friends who have come in here with their nominations, your support means so much to us. THANK YOU :))

Happy weekend all !

On behalf of the BFA Team

Pauline Raina



Hello Kathleen and Pauline,

Firstly the below post was prepared before Kathleen edited and deleted part of her original post. I can imagine the PMs, emails, IMs and/or phone calls in regard to her post and as a consequence her decision to delete. It can still be read in the quote above.

I thought to myself is it worth posting in this thread and decided that what needs to be said should be said regardless of the repercussions.

First of all thank you Kathleen for nominating AnaMaria's Romania. A worthy forum and a worthy contestant in any contest.

I agree that it takes no more then a second to check whether a forum is active or not something that apparently wasn't done.

I don't believe you have much to worry about in regard to multiple accounts in any of the contests that use the poll system since so few participate in any of the contests any more.

The Judging was meant to be a safe guard against manipulation of the results and I can assure you that anything can be manipulated even"impartial" judges. We've seen the results of that in a few instances already. I do believe as a result that more weight and points should be given to the leaders of the popular vote since as you all can see the popular vote is the weaker of the two by far.

Pauline,you write you took "responsibility" for not checking and I wonder in what way did you take responsibility? Responsibility means taking action and aside from a tepid apology nothing was done.

Taking action could have taken different forms.

1. Canceling the poll and starting it anew and including AnaMaria's forum Romania.

2.Resigning from the BFA for faulty administration of the forum/contest and apparently depending on inaccurate information regarding the activity of the forum Romania.

There are more actions but the above 2 are sufficient in this case.

If I remember correctly a while ago you held a poll whether to change the format of the BFA and the voting procedures. I believe the majority voted for the poll system and not for write ins. Consequently the system remained intact and not cos of Bogdan's decision.

I don't think there ever was a question that setting up a contest takes time and the effort was always appreciated by all that understand the complexities of such a task.

Why in the world would you be in favor of the write in system when you can see for yourself the dismal results of that system? It averages 8-12participants and if and when it reaches 17 it's a WOW week. I guess even pre prepared lists can't convince members to participate in the contest. It is quite boring and tedious you know?

Shalom,

Peter

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OK ADLAND I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU...PLEASE ANSWER WITH A YES OR NO...THATS ALL I NEED....THANK YOU!

SHOULD PAULINE RAINA RESIGN FROM THE BFA ?

Look forward to your write in VOTE !!!

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/11/2009 5:08:56 AM

No

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SHOULD PAULINE RAINA RESIGN FROM THE BFA ?

Look forward to your write in VOTE !!!

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RE: An Open Letter To Peter Fogel
11/11/2009 8:14:05 AM
Forgiveness is an act of the will, and the will can function regardless of the temperature of the heart.
- Corrie ten Boom
My answer would have been NO. Bogdan has made his decision and we can all learn from this. Pauline has done a great job, I just wish this hadn't been an issue with anyone. Let me interject some great quotes that may sooth ruffled feathers and help gain perspective. cb
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Let God love you through others and let God love others through you.
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