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Re: Give a man a fish OR teach him how to fish ...
8/28/2005 10:56:26 AM
Hello Kenneth, Thanks for this invitation. It seems that this person respects your opinion a great deal. The question I have is 'Is this persons website worthy of promotion?' Would he benefit from being taught 'How to fish'? Yes, everyone would. But, would he also benefit from the help you could provide? Of course, who wouldn't. It seems like a catch 22. I think I would do both. Give and teach. It would help build this persons self esteem if you helped and hopefully he would then try harder at building his friends list on his own. Thank you, Take care, Jo Matthias
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8/28/2005 11:44:58 AM
Hi Kenneth, It is tough when you are asked for help and have the feeling of being "used". We all had to work hard for ourselves to grow our network/businesses. I don't believe anyone should be handed their fish on a silver platter. On one hand, IF you could benefit yourself by being an affiliate for the person or something than you could start a forum about such and both of you benefit. However, I wouldn't jeoperdize offending my friends or partners by sending out an add or such for someone elses benefit. On the other hand, We are all here as friends to help one another. What topic is the persons website and would it benefit your friends to know about it, or would it just end up possibly costing them money unnecissarily? There are a lot of things to consider. It all boils down to "hashing" over morals and ethics for helping or hurting yourself or them. Not much help but just some suggestions of what to think about. Good luck, Angela http://oakleyinternational.com
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Re: Give a man a fish OR teach him how to fish ...
8/28/2005 12:11:29 PM
Hi Kenneth, People look to you with such requests BECAUSE you've become so "well-connected." You are an Adlandpro Expert and novices look to experts for help and advice when they are struggling or just getting started. In his book, "The Tipping Point," bestselling author, Malcolm Gladwell writes about epidemics (not the spreading of disease type) and how they are created through word-of mouth marketing. He talked about the different types of people who make recommendations and called them "Connectors, Mavens, and Salesmen." All networkers fall into one of these three classifications and it's natural for someone who is not "so well connected (yet)" to look for assistance from someone who is. I think that when I am as "well connected" as you are, I would take a look at what he was asking me to promote and so long as it was in line with what I believe in, I would help that person out with a recommendation for my friends to take a look. It wouldn't hurt to send a personal note to your friend to help him develop his own list of networking contacts, as well. It's still true that people will only do business with people who they know, like and trust and if he hasn't taken the time to develop relationships with the people who you know, your friends aren't likely going to do business with a person who they don't know yet, either...so he still has to lay the groundwork to have his own success. Thanks for the opportunity to share my thoughts here! Take care, Mike
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Re: Give a man a fish OR teach him how to fish ...
8/28/2005 8:27:09 PM
Hello Kenneth, I beleive there are alot that come into this factor. The basic principle is true, teach them how to make money online it keeps them going, give them money only help at the time. Now with your example you seem to be referring to teach the man how to pass the message around about his site. I would want to know why for one he only has 50 friends and the time span. I would also like to know what sort of business it is. If the person is looking merely for a free ride and thinks your a joke I would not bother. But say for instance he is having trouble working a computer, and maybe some difficulties I would recommend he write a forum that you could send people to if you thought he was deserving. If you made some recommendations that could help him and he does it then he would be active, if inactive I would have serious doubts. I guess you would have all the facts before you. I guess every scenario goes on personal merit is what I am saying. I tend to weigh up a situation like this. I will help a person that is trying but one that is not trying you really wonder whether to send friends along that trust your opinion. You would not want to endorse a site that was against your business for instance or into arranged marriages. Its a really hard one kenneth. See & ask what that person is doing to help themselves and go from there is my best suggestion. Evaluation is a big part of marketing. I hope you can understand where I am coming from. Kindly Lisa Lomas
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Re: Give a man a fish OR teach him how to fish ...
8/29/2005 11:52:10 AM
Hi Kenneth, Interesting analogy you have bought up. I used to be a fishing instructor back in UK before I emigrated to America to marry Pam. (Had my own taxi business as well, but thats another story) In fact it was through my fishing instructor website, that Pam first contacted me about fishing, from that one question, my life totally changed, the rest is now history. What I am trying to say here is, that if people wanted tips, I gave them freely, if they wanted help & instruction, they had to pay. I have over 40 years experience on how to catch fish. If people wanted to know what I knew, they had to pay, or I informed them how to learn for themselves. You have had to learn what you know Kenneth, obviously you cannot charge this member for explaing how to get members to his friends list, but if he expects you to advertise for him, & get members to sign up for his program to earn him money!!! Well Kenneth, I think you can probably guess where I'm coming from here. I would politely point him to how to grow his friends list, & leave him to get on with it himself. If he still wants you to promote his website, without working himself, then I suggest you inform him of your hourly rates. It's one thing teaching someone to fish, try getting a pro angler to show you for free how to win fishing competitions & big money. Somehow, I don't think they will impart with that information, without compensation.
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